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    Hi Guys....

    My name is Shifty1, and in 2011 I went primal. One of the most successful things I did when I started down the primal journey was that I kept a daily report and online journal on this forum, which can be found here : http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33495.html

    During that time I kept myself accountable, and had some amazing results. I did not follow all the steps in the primal blueprint (I did not exercise, and build muscle mass) but I was struck in my food intake, and I got an amazing result.

    One of the things I really credit for the great results was reporting my food intake, and the support I had from people here. I went on to move countries, get engaged, and generally have a fantastic life. Every day I was full of energy, stress free, and spiritually happy.

    Life is a constant test, and the wheel turned, like it does for everyone. My hit was that I didn't get married, and ended up in a country that was not very welcoming after the engagement broke down. While it was meant not to be, I started sabotaging myself, and for the last two years have been doing things I should not have been. Eating badly, not sleeping, stressing myself out...

    Grok would not have survived.. and the results have shown.

    I now stand with more body fat than I started my primal journey. My energy levels are at a horrible low. The concentration is scattered. This is not what I had in mind, and I choose to turn it around. My first step is right here : posting up this new thread. The last few days have been the worst, with donuts and suger becoming the base of my diet. Well, not more punishing myself! I'm over that. I know this next week is going to be hard, I am definitely not looking forward to the carb flu, but I do this for me...

    I'll be keeping track of what I eat, and posting up the results in the thread. For me, it is important to have a space to share what I am going, a place that ca be safe. I might not always get to where I want to be, but a day in the right direction is what is important. Can't run a marathon before running around the block a few times.

    So thats my intention. Tonight will be Day 1 of Primal 2.0. Time to back myself!

    Thanks for reading, and don't be a stranger....
    Love you all, you just didn't know it....

    -Shifty
    Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



    Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
    Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
    Numbers change every 50 days

  • #2
    Hi shifty1, welcome back.

    Sounds as if you have been going through some tough stuff. I don't know why we humans seem to stop taking care of ourselves just at the moment when we need to be strongest. Though I have never stopped being Primal, I am just coming out of a two year roller coaster of a binge eating disorder triggered by my Mother's death.

    Good Luck!
    I like the tag line at the end of your posts. It is nice to be loved even if I didn't know it until I opened your journal.
    Primal since 9/24/2010
    "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

    Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
    MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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    • #3
      Thanks for your post Pebbles

      I was a little nervous what the response would be when I started this thread. Thank you for welcoming me so warmly.
      Humans are a funny creature, we can do so much, and with one instant thought, stop putting ourselves first. I think as someone famous said - "Selfish is not a dirty word" Time to be selfish with my primal lifestyle

      Feel free to stop in, and give advice... Thats open to anyone

      Love you all, you just didn't know it....

      -Shifty
      Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



      Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
      Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
      Numbers change every 50 days

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      • #4
        Hi shifty1

        congrats on having the courage to start over especially as you know what the next week brings!
        Of course you are not alone in your effort to get back on track I have been toying with primal for over a year now and have recently decided to actually do the program so I feel your pain!
        Good luck
        link to my journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread97129.html

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        • #5
          Hey jacmac....

          I jumped into Primal as a way to focus when I broke up with an ex, the anger (not such a great way to motivate yourself) was great at keeping me on track! The results were amazing! I have a PT now, train twice a week, and while I have muscle, I have not been able to shed my body fat. Primal will do that for you.

          This journey will not be about anger. It will be about loving myself, for myself. The more you put in the more you will get out. After three months, I was the trimmest I had ever been. Jump in with both feet, and share your struggles and successes. This is a key factor for my last success. Tried doing it by myself, and fell off the wagon every time....

          Please let me know how you go...

          Love you all, you just didn't know it....

          -Shifty
          Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



          Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
          Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
          Numbers change every 50 days

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          • #6
            Thanks Shifty1 I have started a journal but I have to tell you it's a bit lonely cause it seems people are reading my stuff but no one is commenting.
            Really I started the journal to become accountable and it is working.
            I really want to be able to say what you have that this is the trimest I have been.
            I will be following your progress and perhaps we can keep each other honest!
            Last edited by jacmac; 12-02-2013, 01:56 AM.
            link to my journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread97129.html

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jacmac View Post
              I will be following your progress and perhaps we can keep each other honest!
              Deal... Done and done!

              For what its worth, if you look at my first thread, it took ages before people started commenting! Still, I did it for myself and they did come. Just keep on track, and you will find your audience Now your one day closer to saying your the trimest you have ever been!

              -Shifty
              Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



              Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
              Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
              Numbers change every 50 days

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              • #8
                Day One - Primal 2.0

                Having looked back at my original thread, and looking at some of the more important post, I wanted to ask for some feedback on how many calories one should have in a day?

                1800 calories via Primal, but when I put my numbers into Myfitness pal, it tells me 1400! Just asking where everyone puts their numbers. I would be the first to say that I would LOVE to see instant results, but I know its a gradual slope, one that I never really could get used to seeing.

                I’m going to break down my posts into four areas of wellness : I love being primal for the effect it has on me physically and mentally, and I feel that reporting these areas will keep me accountable for the whole picture. Of course I will be addressing most questions in the primal arena here

                The areas are :

                Nutrition - Report on what I ate/meals.
                Movement - What I physically did on that day.
                Stress - How I am feeling?
                Sleep - How many hours/rested, not rested.

                My goal is to post every nigh about the day, except for Friday night, as I keep the sabbath and won’t be near a computer. Friday nights report will be made Saturday night.

                So onto Day One :

                General daily report :

                Today I started the day exhausted, and discovered that when I woke up at 10am, instead of my normal time of 6.45am. I had spent the previous day working my tail off on a personal tim project, which also meant that I was dipping my hand into the candy tray a few times more than I would have liked too. That night was also horrible as I ate a lot of fried foods and donuts, simply cause I was exhausted. At the time of night I started eating, my will power was gone, and I was looking for comfort food. I heard that with out enough sleep, your body acts like its diabetic! High swings, you grab for the sugar, insulin crash, the cycle continues…

                The good news was that when I woke up in a fog, feeling like a train ran over me, I reached for my laptop, and fired up Marks Daily Apple! I know what I need to do, but as I wrote before, I had been putting it off. So the first step for me was this thread, and prepping myself.

                Went out tonight, and found that going to a night class helped a lot. Around 5pm I was crashing, and starting to get a headache, so I had a quick snack, then off to class. Was on my feet from 7pm-11pm, so that should count for something. Fixed up a 3d printer, then off home to post a report and sleep Distractions help me from eating when I don't really need to...

                Nutrition - Woke up and was on such a sugar "whatever" I did not eat till lunchtime. Lunch was some steamed green vegetables. Dinner was some egg white with mushrooms and a splash of soya sauce. I did have one slice of rye bread toasted. My goal this week is to remove all refined sugar, I wanted to give myself something to work on in class. Wheat will be removed soon. Need to make this doable, and not fall off the wagon again.

                Misreading myfitness pal, I had one and a half scoops of WPI protein cause I thought I didn't have enough today. Oh well!

                Myfitnesspal numbers for today are :

                Cals : 741
                Carbs: 60
                Fats: 9
                Protein: 100
                Sodium: 1,621
                Sugar: 16


                Movement - Computer day. Not a lot of walking, cause it was a really hot day outside. I did stand and walk for 4 hours at class as we were all at benches.

                Stress - Great! Getting back to the four and Primal really lifted my mood Also fixed my printer, so I am jazzed at the end of the day!

                Sleep - 11 hours last night. Big day that Sunday. Planing for a 11pm bedtime, 7am wake up! :_

                Thanks for listening. I don’t think every day will be such a big report, but it was great to get it all out there

                Love you all, you just didn't know about it!

                -Shifty
                Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                Numbers change every 50 days

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                • #9
                  Welcome back, Shifty. As for calories, I don't track, but I would suggest that you start by making sure you are eating plenty of the right foods before you look at restricting at all. It's hard enough to cut out the junk, don't starve yourself!
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                  • #10
                    Good morning Shifty,
                    741 cals???? Did this happen because of the sugar overload from the previous days? There is no way I could survive on that.
                    I like your organised method for your journal, mine so far has just been ramblings lol.
                    link to my journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread97129.html

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                    • #11
                      Hi Shifty, love the name

                      I will have a read of your posts tomorrow as off to bed now, really nice to meet you and look forward to reading your story
                      Got my life back September 23rd 2013...Female 5'6"

                      HW 210lbs
                      SW 202lbs
                      CW189lbs
                      GW140lbs

                      The best feeling is not feeling depressed

                      My journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread95382.html

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                      • #12
                        Hey NW...

                        Great to see your still here! From time to time I wondered how you were going...
                        Now to see if SoccorGrok will pop in and say hello...

                        Been reading your journal... wow, how things change, good for you girl!

                        Love you all, you just didn't know about it!

                        -Shifty
                        Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                        Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                        Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                        Numbers change every 50 days

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                        • #13
                          Morning Jacmac...

                          Originally posted by jacmac View Post
                          ,
                          741 cals???? Did this happen because of the sugar overload from the previous days? There is no way I could survive on that.
                          That is what I am thinking! I agree, there is no way that anyone could live on that much energy per day! What I think I was doing was having an intermittent fast day, and just trying to purge the sugar from my system. It was a great start, but not something I could ever sustain. No one can. Just reporting how the day went!

                          Thanks for your post....

                          -Shifty
                          Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                          Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                          Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                          Numbers change every 50 days

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                          • #14
                            Day Two :

                            General daily report :

                            Today I had a sluggish day, as I was on such a high yesterday, I did not get to sleep till 4am!
                            Took the day off, and staying indoors. Started the day at 9.30 am and kept pushing.

                            Stayed primal, but was a really tough day!

                            Nutrition - Didn't eat till 12pm. Lunch was some steamed green vegetables and a egg white with mushrooms scrambled egg thing. Dinner was a meat stew. I snacked on boiled green veggies threw out the day. I did have some cheese to go with it and I ate five crackers with some humus at the end of the day as I was feel emotional.

                            Myfitnesspal numbers for today are :

                            Cals : 1,245
                            Carbs: 100
                            Fats: 47
                            Protein: 97
                            Sodium: 1,698
                            Sugar: 2

                            So I'm on track with sugar, need to cut down the carbs, but that will be next week...

                            Movement - Horrible movment day. Due to lack of sleep, was just on survival when it came to exercise...

                            Stress - Not the best day to be stress free. A few family issues kept my stress levels high. Need to meditate before calling it a night.

                            Sleep - 5.30 hours last night. Need to increase. Not the best after a great start.

                            Thats it for today. Need to call it a night.... Tomorrow is less than 30 minutes away!

                            Love you all, you just didn't know about it!

                            -Shifty
                            Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                            Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                            Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                            Numbers change every 50 days

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                            • #15
                              Hey shifty

                              I didn't catch your primal 1.0 journal, but will aim to dig through it as you seem to have been pretty successful.

                              It always strikes me as odd how we find something that works for us and somehow manage to drift away from it. I have done this a few times, but more around either the CW approach or not seeing the whole thing as a lifestyle change - always just a diet. I hope this time its permanent.

                              I'm female and 103kg (ish, I do imperial) and MFP gave me weird numbers too. I fixed that by aiming for 0.7g protein per lb of lean bodyweight, so say my ideal weight is 140lbs at 25% body fat, leaves me 105lbs lean bodyweight multiply by 0.7g =74 g protein = ~300cals. This is my minimum, there are recommendations that when losing weight your protein intake should be 1g per 1lb, which would be 105g/420cals.

                              To be in the sweet spot for weight loss then maximum of 100g of carbs = another 400 cals. The rest comes from fat. The flaw in this equation is using the Harris Benedict equation in order to determine what my calorie intake should be daily - I mean, what's to say this part of CW isn't wrong as well!!??!

                              However, based on a primal approach to activity, Mark has said that this equates to a 0.55 activity factor over BMR. My BMR is 1745, which with a 0.55 activity factor = ~2700 cals. If I want to lose 2lbs per week then I need to deficit by 1000 cals per day = 1700 cals per day. As this is below my BMR, which CW says we shouldn't drop below, I rounded this up to 1800 cals.
                              My protein is thus between 15-22% of my daily cals, my carbs are about the same (100g is the max), the rest comes from fat.
                              My meals seem sensible without me having to work too hard to get either enough protein or not too many carbs. I just had to make my breakfasts a bit more protein rich. I'm only two weeks in but so far, so good - and I feel good, which is priceless

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