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  • Originally posted by missblue View Post
    Hi Sol and awok;
    Nope, I'm not "normal' nor do I do I aspire to normality in any form
    I am having a very good day as I have just ordered two groovy guitars on sale to add to my growing collection.
    Good for you, missblue. My family has always 'collected' musical instruments, much as we also collect cars and boats. After all, if one is good, several must be better, right? My brother has a guitar collection and my father, recorders and harmonicas. I tend to go for one of each - guitar, harmonica, recorder, keyboard - though of course none of them really gets much playing time and none of them currently.

    Originally posted by missblue View Post
    awok, I read your journal when you first started (I'm a bit behind due to too much work at the moment) and what you are doing for your father is very admirable. You are clearly a wonderful son and human being. I was a caregiver too for my mother who was late-stage emphasema (can't spell but you know the smoking lung disease) and alcoholic. She got lung cancer as well as time went on so I know what you mean about the gradual descent compared to them passing quickly with a heart attack or something in their sleep. I felt kind of guilty hoping that would happen but in the end it did. Quiet and peacefully while sleeping but as I mentioned earlier here, I was not there.

    Meanwhile, I hope you are coping, as Sol suggested, with the daily drain of caregiving by caring as much a possible for yourself. Feel free to vent here as the frustrating things build up at times. Better out than in.
    Missblue, thanks for your concern. Yeah, since my father spends a lot of time asleep or watching dvds, this is an opportunity for me to take a bit of a time-out for myself from life really. I do my best to focus on myself and my future etc and what I want to do with my life after. It's a just a bit constraining physically and of course in that I can't really cook some things that my father won't eat, like stews, curries etc. But to be honest with you, it's a pretty lazy lifestyle really.

    My mother was a functioning alcoholic. She started to develop Parkinson's-like symptoms that weren't Parkinson's because they didn't respond to the medications, but she was never truthful with the doctors about her alcohol consumption and I'm pretty sure it was a factor in the symptoms - like hand tremor and difficulty speaking - and also in the brain haemorrhage that killed her. Though I'm now also aware that some of the symptoms could have been the result of various SBD-invoked deficiencies like Vit B12, Vit D etc, as I think they've contributed to my father's condition.

    Originally posted by missblue View Post
    One things I must confess guys, as a Yank I just don't get the tennis thing. The ball goes back and forth. Back and forth. Back and forth. I do like to watch everyone in the audience watch the games because of the entrained movement. Funny.
    No offense given, I hope. . . all in fun
    LOL. It's a strange thing but most of the UK couldn't care about tennis either - except for 2 weeks of the year. Possibly because it's one of those traditional events that marks the passage of the year - like the Grand National (horse race) and the University Boat Race (rowing 8s) and it's a single event that we're proud of as a country.

    It's not something I generally follow, but when there's a match on and I have the inclination or motivation (want to see how Murray does because he's a Brit and Djokovic because of his gluten-free/paleo diet) I enjoy it. It's in the details, a bit like cricket and NFL. You have to sit down and watch the whole thing, but if you concentrate on every stroke and where it's landing, then you get to see the progression of a rally where, though a player might return a ball, he's then out of position and the other player has the opportunity to win the point - but only if he gets the ball in exactly the right place. Just like cricket is about each ball bowled, but only really in the context of the balls that have gone before and the match as a whole. Tennis is more reactive, but there's still tactics and strategy involved.
    Me, My Father and The Alzheimer's - http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84213.html

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    • Originally posted by Sol blackcat View Post
      That must be a massive mental pressure and responsibility caring 24/7 for an alzheimers sufferer and even more so with being your dad. That's great that he's responded well to the changes you have made regarding his diet. Are you doing this alone? Can't you get help from family or social services?
      Well, I get on well with him because we like a lot of the same things, but if he was okay he'd probably be happy enough on his own as I am, so there's no big emotional thing going on. And yes, I have my brother and his wife, but they're 3hrs away by car and he's busy with his work, which isn't a 9-5 job. So he's handling all the financial stuff and red tape and I'm just doing the running around. When it's all over, it'll be his headache to sort out and I'm very happy with that.

      As for social services. Well, I guess I'm just a bit of a control freak, but I don't want to put him under any extra stress by having strangers in - also I'm reluctant to give strangers access to the house until it's absolutely necessary. Currently I'm okay with it and I don't want anything to prompt a downturn unless it's absolutely unavoidable. I have a lot of respect for my father and how he's lived his life and looked after us as his family, so I want to give him as much quality of life as I can.

      Originally posted by Sol blackcat View Post
      It puts in to context someone like me who has willingly abused myself for twenty odd years and it is shameful.
      Mr awok is a very lucky man to have you, and you are a credit to him and yourself. Total respect and I wish you the very very best. Take care of yourself when you find the time.
      You really are a jewel. Good things are waiting for you. Sol.
      The thing is, that we're living in a modern environment that encourages us into behaviour that's bad for us, and it doesn't really matter whether we're virtuously following guidelines or not. To be honest, the fact that you've put yourself in a position where you've had to go looking for ways to heal yourself means you're going to be ahead of the game in later life. Just like I didn't really bother about putting the pounds on and definitely avoided 'healthy' eating, which led me to low carbing and then paleo/primal. My father kept himself in shape but I blame CW for the position he's in now, when he's not capable of sorting himself out.

      And my mother (who followed CW) was what I would class as a moderate 'middle-class' drinker, which means that she was drinking far more than would currently be termed moderate. But she grew up in the 30s and 40s influenced by a surgeon brother-in-law (think whisky and cigars) and then was supplied by my father's home-brewing of wine and sparkling wine until they retired, when caravanning gave them access to cheap continental wine. I estimated that in her last few years of work she was probably drinking as much as 14 units a day, while the last year of her life (when she was on warfarin) it was still as much as 10 units a day. But by that time she was incapable of seeing what it was doing to her health and anyone mentioning drink and health caused her to burst into tears or get angry.

      So there is a way of looking at your situation as better than those who never face up to more moderate abuse of alcohol and who never bother to look for a way to make their lives better.

      And, Sol, the cooking? Go for it, mate. If there's something you really enjoy doing, it's well worth seeing if you can find a way to make it a bigger part of your life. Now's the time to do the research and brainstorm business ideas or just ways you might like to take it forwards. You may have to start with the work and job you know, to stabilise yourself financially, but it doesn't have to be forever. (Speaking from experience, having given up IT support to concentrate on writing. )
      Me, My Father and The Alzheimer's - http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84213.html

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      • Cooking, shussss, if my mates find out they might beat me up.

        New tesco opened in Sunderland last week, had a look in couple of nights ago. Ooppsy yellow sticker corner( scratters corner in Sunderland speak) I got £18 pounds worth of meat for £3.70. Gerrin.

        Two lambs necks, haven't got a clue what to do with these mind.
        Lots of chicken breast. Lately come to favour dark meat, thighs and legs, but I'm not complaining.
        Turkey breasts aswell.

        All proportioned and frozen.
        Large jar of sauerkraut in as*a £1.34
        Two for £1.19 in said supermarket.
        FTM. I'm not biased, I hope everybody beats the mags!

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        • are the necks fillet or boned, if they're fillets make kebabs mmmmm. if theyre boned wonderful stew with some veg
          When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
          27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
          new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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          • Originally posted by Sol blackcat View Post
            Cooking, shussss, if my mates find out they might beat me up.

            New tesco opened in Sunderland last week, had a look in couple of nights ago. Ooppsy yellow sticker corner( scratters corner in Sunderland speak) I got £18 pounds worth of meat for £3.70. Gerrin.

            Two lambs necks, haven't got a clue what to do with these mind.
            Lots of chicken breast. Lately come to favour dark meat, thighs and legs, but I'm not complaining.
            Turkey breasts aswell.

            All proportioned and frozen.
            Large jar of sauerkraut in as*a £1.34
            Two for £1.19 in said supermarket.

            Yum ! Lamb neck. Try this
            In a slow cooker or a large pot- brown the seasoned with s&p necks then add chopped onion and carrot with a tin of whole tomatoes and cook until the meat is falling off the bone ( the longer the better). Next step eat and slurp up the sauce!
            link to my journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread97129.html

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            • Originally posted by Sol blackcat View Post
              All the people you've helped in the past is something I'm sure you are very proud about, and rightly so.
              Feel free to offer more advice and shoot me down if you think I'm doing something wrong. If you think my attitude is wrong at anytime then I'd rather you advised me.

              I sincerely hope I didn't disappoint you in anyway.

              I really would value your opinion on any matters you may think might help. Ive had a number of private messages regarding this matter from people I've never seen post on these boards. So your experience could be valuable to other readers who might be taking an interest but don't want to comment.

              Thank you.
              Thank you Sol. I greatly respect your unusual honesty and integrity, and sincerely apologize if I have perturbed you in any way. You have certainly not disappointed me. I'm amazed at how very well you're doing.

              No, I have no pride in helping alcoholics or anyone else. I don't really do anything except be physically there or available (which I'm sure some find irritating at times) and encouraging. If a person is really ready and sincere they do it themselves; if they are not there's nothing in the world anyone else can do. This best I receive is the opportunity to learn from others and their experiences. Sometimes I can usefully pass these on.
              "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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              • Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
                when i started walking and got thinner legs and got muscle myleft leg was considerably littler(i had a cva that damaged my left side) consciously and consistently leading with that leg when walking has made a massive difference.

                regarding smoking if you can get the quickmist device and they are unbelievably effective- its how I stopped. Ive tried everything else before. NICORETTE® QuickMist Mouthspray. | Nicorette
                So, are you legs equal now? I had a blood clot in my right leg which stopped my walking from the pain. The doctor said just take a rest during the walk until the pain subsides. Well, around here there's no place to sit except on the ground. So I bought on-line on of those 3-legged folding seat-canes and tried it. Turns out you can only sit on the very front edge or it falls over backwards; and it's a nuisance to carry. Now the clot has moved, broken up, or new blood vessels have formed and there's no more pain, but boy is that calf weak.

                Thanks, I'll get a quickmist, I'll try anything to help succeed at this.
                Last edited by Cryptocode; 07-05-2013, 01:24 PM.
                "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                • Sol, Mark has tons of useful advice on how to sleep. Go to his blog page in search 'sleep'.

                  If you're regularly sleeping 3 - 4 hours it could likely be that the problem is no longer nerves. It could be the effect of too low carbs or just habit now. If you're tired enough to give up the faster weight loss, eat starchy (high glycemic load index) foods; yams, sweet potatoes, for dinner. Or try taking a teaspoon of potato starch at least 2 hours before bed, and slowly upping that to 1 tablespoon. I haven't tried that but it seems to work for some people.
                  "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                  • Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
                    are the necks fillet or boned, if they're fillets make kebabs mmmmm. if theyre boned wonderful stew with some veg
                    There wasn't any bones in them carbs, I was able to bend them to fit in tub to freezer. I haven't got a kebab maker. Thanks carby.


                    Originally posted by jacmac View Post
                    Yum ! Lamb neck. Try this
                    In a slow cooker or a large pot- brown the seasoned with s&p necks then add chopped onion and carrot with a tin of whole tomatoes and cook until the meat is falling off the bone ( the longer the better). Next step eat and slurp up the sauce!

                    Sounds good, I've never tasted neck before, not animal neck anyway. "slurp up the sauce", gerrin, as loudly as possible!
                    Thanks jac.


                    Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
                    Thank you Sol. I greatly respect your unusual honesty and integrity, and sincerely apologize if I have perturbed you in any way. You have certainly not disappointed me. I'm amazed at how very well you're doing.

                    No, I have no pride in helping alcoholics or anyone else. I don't really do anything except be physically there or available (which I'm sure some find irritating at times) and encouraging. If a person is really ready and sincere they do it themselves; if they are not there's nothing in the world anyone else can do. This best I receive is the opportunity to learn from others and their experiences. Sometimes I can usefully pass these on.
                    You most certainly have offered good advice and never anything other. Just being there for whomever needs you is far more than words can describe. Perhaps your being there could have been the direct result in avoiding a tragedy. Just being there is an enormous act of goodwill and I for one hold you in the highest of respect.
                    You are a kind, giving and caring lady.

                    Thank you.

                    Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
                    Sol, Mark has tons of useful advice on how to sleep. Go to his blog page in search 'sleep'.

                    If you're regularly sleeping 3 - 4 hours it could likely be that the problem is no longer nerves. It could be the effect of too low carbs or just habit now. If you're tired enough to give up the faster weight loss, eat starchy (high glycemic load index) foods; yams, sweet potatoes, for dinner. Or try taking a teaspoon of potato starch at least 2 hours before bed, and slowly upping that to 1 tablespoon. I haven't tried that but it seems to work for some people.
                    Crypto,

                    I will checkout marks sleeping page, thanks. My main problem is my 3-4 hours sleep arrives when most people are waking up. Don't know how I'm going to cope when I get back to work, especially staying in hotel which I used to do often.

                    Must focus on weight loss for another couple of weeks, doing well, another 4lb and I've lost 2 stone in three weeks. Drastic I know but the calories I'm saving from alcohol is the key.
                    Can you buy potato starch? I've not heard of it before.
                    As always your advice is so valuable.

                    Take care crypto.
                    FTM. I'm not biased, I hope everybody beats the mags!

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                    • Sounds good, I've never tasted neck before, not animal neck anyway. "slurp up the sauce", gerrin, as loudly as possible!

                      Ooh oh so you have tasted human neck ?? Do tell this could be interesting!
                      link to my journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread97129.html

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                      • Originally posted by jacmac View Post
                        Sounds good, I've never tasted neck before, not animal neck anyway. "slurp up the sauce", gerrin, as loudly as possible!

                        Ooh oh so you have tasted human neck ?? Do tell this could be interesting!
                        I vant te bite ze neck. A gentleman never tells!!
                        FTM. I'm not biased, I hope everybody beats the mags!

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                        • Originally posted by Sol blackcat View Post
                          Can you buy potato starch? I've not heard of it before.
                          As always your advice is so valuable.

                          Take care crypto.
                          Red Mill Potato Starch is in our local Sprouts market, it's also online many places, see amazon.

                          BTW I looked up pilchards. These are larger sardines yes? If so, I've never seen them here. But I like herring better than tuna.

                          So, I tried the multiple quotes and failed. Do they all have to be on the same page? And please knock off the 'so valuable' sort of stuff. It make me fee squirrely and squiggly.
                          Last edited by Cryptocode; 07-05-2013, 05:08 PM.
                          "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                          • Originally posted by jacmac View Post
                            Yum ! Lamb neck. Try this
                            In a slow cooker or a large pot- brown the seasoned with s&p necks then add chopped onion and carrot with a tin of whole tomatoes and cook until the meat is falling off the bone ( the longer the better). Next step eat and slurp up the sauce!
                            Cooking is for real men in my view Sol, so I'm glad to hear you are enjoying it. You'll also find that you will be more sensitive to the flavors of food since you've stopped drinking. You'll be fitter than you mates soon and kicking their asses, I'll bet. . .

                            Jacmac's recipe seems pretty spot on for a feast. A few details to make it even better--
                            Use more oil than you think you want to. I'd brown plenty of onions in the fat and brown drippings on the bottom of the pan from cooking the lamb neck. The onions will make that brown stuff "let go" and make the stew taste great. If you get to green grocer maybe a few herbs to chop finely and add, or some savory, oregano, etc. that are dried will also taste very nice. He's quite right about the long cooking time. A very low simmer (not really bubbling, more burbling slowly) with a stir every now and then to keep it from sticking will make the meat more tender. If you like peas, some of those frozen ones the last few minutes of cooking give it a great flavor and cook almost instantly. Did I mention that cooking was my version of football? I read cookbooks like some people read the sports page. Did you try the shepherd's pie yet?

                            Best to all but early night for me. Longer post in the morning.

                            I do hope your leg is feeling better Cryptocode. How's the non-smoking thing going?
                            blue
                            Last edited by missblue; 07-05-2013, 07:38 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
                              Red Mill Potato Starch is in our local Sprouts market, it's also online many places, see amazon.

                              BTW I looked up pilchards. These are larger sardines yes? If so, I've never seen them here. But I like herring better than tuna.

                              So, I tried the multiple quotes and failed. Do they all have to be on the same page? And please knock off the 'so valuable' sort of stuff. It make me fee squirrely and squiggly.
                              Large sardines is correct. A couple of posters on this thread learnt me how to multi quote, if you go back and read it you can learn how it's done. It can be from any page. Give awa, man woman man, you are valuable and you know it.

                              I've got a bone to pick with you (not pilchards bones) but......

                              I greatly respect your UNUSUAL honesty? I'm hurting, I need a drink to sooth my wounded feelings. Hic hic.
                              FTM. I'm not biased, I hope everybody beats the mags!

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                              • Originally posted by missblue View Post
                                Cooking is for real men in my view Sol, so I'm glad to hear you are enjoying it. You'll also find that you will be more sensitive to the flavors of food since you've stopped drinking. You'll be fitter than you mates soon and kicking their asses, I'll bet. . .

                                Jacmac's recipe seems pretty spot on for a feast. A few details to make it even better--
                                Use more oil than you think you want to. I'd brown plenty of onions in the fat and brown drippings on the bottom of the pan from cooking the lamb neck. The onions will make that brown stuff "let go" and make the stew taste great. If you get to green grocer maybe a few herbs to chop finely and add, or some savory, oregano, etc. that are dried will also taste very nice. He's quite right about the long cooking time. A very low simmer (not really bubbling, more burbling slowly) with a stir every now and then to keep it from sticking will make the meat more tender. If you like peas, some of those frozen ones the last few minutes of cooking give it a great flavor and cook almost instantly. Did I mention that cooking was my version of football? I read cookbooks like some people read the sports page. Did you try the shepherd's pie yet?

                                Best to all but early night for me. Longer post in the morning.

                                I do hope your leg is feeling better Cryptocode. How's the non-smoking thing going?
                                blue
                                I'm going to do something with that lamb neck tomorrow, bit weary of tomatoes till the gout has completely gone. I fancy doing it in the slow cooker. Thanks for the tips.
                                Already noticed the flavour change.

                                One or two of my mates could do with a good ass kicking, believe me.
                                My knee feels good today. Keep off certain foods and I don't see any reason why i cant use that bike today. At last. I was getting a bit embarrassed by having excuse after excuse. Even though they wern't excuses. Cheers blue.
                                FTM. I'm not biased, I hope everybody beats the mags!

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