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    I am absolutely not viewing this new way of eating as a 'diet', though sometimes I use the word diet to refer to the things I eat consistently, I don't intend to go back to 'normal eating' because this is my new normal eating.

    What isn't normal is eating half a family sized bag of doritos with cheese dip, half a carton of ice cream, half a box of assorted chocolates and half a pizza. That, my friends, is a binge.

    I fully believe kicking sugar and grains is going to give me the ability to beat these binges but I also believe I'm going to have to be grain and sugar free for at least 30 days before I can break that cycle so that sugar will no longer have that hold over me.

    So, I fell off the wagon for about two days but I'm back! I baked my first whole chicken ever! I pussied out and couldn't eat the liver. I wanted to give it a shot but I was proud of myself for even buying a whole chicken in the first place. I coated it with olive oil and it turned out just great. I also have some soup that is more veggies than broth that I'd excited to eat over the next week, which also has some chicken in it.

    I'm setting a goal to be basically 100% primal for 30 days while I tackle this cycle of eating well and then binging.

    Does anyone here have BED? How have you use the primal blueprint to finally gain control?

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    Yes, I have binge eating disorder although I choose to call it food addiction because it is practically the same.

    The only thing that worked for me was complete abstinence from sugar, gluten and any refined high-reward junk foods. I haven't touched these foods in over 5 months now and I never crave them anymore.

    If you are a binge eater but manage to eat clean for 30 days, then decide to "cheat" then chances are that you will fall of the wagon again. That's how it was for me anyway.
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    • #3
      I believe I can now say I USED to have BED. For over 12 years. When I first tried PB 2011-2012 I still binged sometimes, but not as often as normal. Then some stuff happened and really I spent 6 months bingeing. Tried PB again Oct 2012, and binges became less frequent. Once I increased my fats, and lowered carbs even more. The urge to binge just was not there.
      I have not binged at all for a few months now. So for me, more fats, less carbs was the answer. It might work for you, it might not.
      I don't have cheats because it just doesn't work for me. 100% primal all the way. I really even "paleofy" foods, as it can be the danger zone for me and over eating.

      Good luck.
      Last edited by Ayla2010; 02-10-2013, 04:13 PM.

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      • #4
        Willpower might help. Check out this;Exercise: it does a body good! Weight Maven

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        • #5
          Its not as simple as will power.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
            Its not as simple as will power.
            Agreed.
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            • #7
              Thank you guys for responding.

              I've been fighting BED since age 13, but I didn't really know what it was I was fighting until about 6 months ago. I really thought it was as simple as willpower and that I was somehow broke and insatiable, doomed to be fat forever. People kept telling me I just needed to stay on track and find motivation, but it wasn't until recently speaking to some folks who've gotten controlled of their BED that I realized most, if not all of them, had told me they'd cut out, or severely reduce, their intake of sugar and bread/pasta items.

              I suppose I had convinced myself it'd be easier than it really is to give up sugar completely.

              I'm going to have to push through though. There's no two ways about it. I think it was the 80% idea that got me to eat the first piece of chocolate and then it just went downhill. Well it's 100% from here on out.

              Thanks you guys! I needed a reminder that I'm not a complete screw-up.

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              • #8
                You are not
                You will get there eventually.

                Doesn't mean you can't have dark choc forever

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                  You are not
                  You will get there eventually.

                  Doesn't mean you can't have dark choc forever
                  I'm actually starting to like the unsweetened bakers chocolate. I didn't hate it at first, but of course it was missing that little kick that refined sugar brings to sweetened dark chocolate, even if it's just a little bit. But after a few nibbles I realized I really get my chocolate fix with a few tiny bites of unsweetened bakers chocolate, where I could eat half a bar of 85% and still wish I could have the whole thing.

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                  • #10
                    It's not really a wagon. It's more like a path. In the woods. Sometimes you wander off deliberately and sometimes accidentally. But you don't ever have to lose sight of the path if you don't choose to. You can wander back. And only the bears and squirrels will know you've been bad, lol. If your body has been accustomed to SAD eating, it might not even know. After 6 months to a year of keeping pretty close to the path, you'll feel amazing. Just keep your eye on the path.
                    50yo, 5'3"
                    SW-195
                    CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                    GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                    • #11
                      I've been seeing a Nutritionist and he's advising me to eat whole, healthy, natural foods (no grains, dairy, alcohol, sugar). I used to have horrible sugar cravings in the evening, but after giving up sugar 100%, my cravings ended after about 4 days. I think of sugar as poison (for me). I've been completely Primal for 26 days and continue to be amazed and happy to have NO sugar cravings!
                      I practice yoga (am a yogini) and am also a follower of Grok ... so my journal is Grokini Mary

                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread66249.html

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                        It's not really a wagon. It's more like a path. In the woods. Sometimes you wander off deliberately and sometimes accidentally. But you don't ever have to lose sight of the path if you don't choose to. You can wander back. And only the bears and squirrels will know you've been bad, lol. If your body has been accustomed to SAD eating, it might not even know. After 6 months to a year of keeping pretty close to the path, you'll feel amazing. Just keep your eye on the path.
                        Thank you for this, it's been one of the most uplifting things I've read in a while. I struggle with thinking it has to be all or nothing, on the wagon or off, no middle ground. Then the moment I "fall off the wagon" I'm done and lost in the forest. Remembering that the path is always there will help I think. Sometimes walking, sometimes running, but always in the right direction.
                        One step, one decision, and one change at a time leads to a total transformation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by braidyrigby
                          Sometimes the fall is a big and dramatic one. You go to a holiday dinner and eat anything and everything you see. You have an upsetting incident and comfort yourself with a binge.
                          Yeah. The biggest reason I worry about 'falling off the wagon' so much right now is because I believe I'm going to have to abstain from sugar and grains for a good while to start figuring out my true hunger signals and conquer cravings. If I 'fall off' every five days or so I'm not really going to be getting anywhere.

                          I did do very well yesterday. I had a 'smoothie' thing, which for me is some berries, full fat greek yogurt, kefir, shredded coconut and macadamia nuts. I would start more days out with eggs but with work I don't always have time. I mix my smoothie in about five minutes and just take it to work.

                          Anyways, then I had chicken for lunch and soup for dinner. The soup had cabbage, chicken breast, celery, sweet potato and carrots.

                          Then when I was getting those cravings to just eat whatever I nibbled on dark chocolate and drank some tea. Before I knew it I wasn't even thinking about binging.

                          A couple things are different now though. I just ended TOM and have gotten off the Nuvaring. I think the Nuvaring hasn't been a big help in stopping my binges.

                          In all, I did good yesterday and ultimately didn't binge and, miraculously, didn't overeat past maintenance. Unfortunately I still didn't eat enough to lose but I'm really concerned with stopped my binges and not gaining. I figure once I am not in control of cravings I will be able to finally start losing.

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                          • #14
                            Hi all!

                            I am just coming off of a 40 day Whole30 very strict paleo in hopes of kicking a very bad sugar/binge/food/overheating/ whatever you want to call it. I had removed all processed sugars but still had things like dates, nut butters and Lara bars when the nightly sweet tooth rolled in. Needless to say, my cravings were so bad a few days ago that I have been literally obsessing about food and wanting to eat eat and eat. For all of you that have gotten this under control, did you remove everything with sugar even fruit, dates, etc? Grains for me are a little easier than the sugar. What did you do when the unbearable mind obsessed?


                            I know this was not my original post so sorry to throw my questions out there ! I was just reading and it happened to be a place where all of you have much experience.

                            Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              I wanted to let you guys know that I've been 100% primal for 2 days! Before now I was probably only 95% as I was eating quite a lot of dark chocolate that had sugar in it.

                              That was probably not the best for someone with a sugar addiction and BED. I feel 100 times better now that I'm fully primal.

                              I'll be grocery shopping again on Friday so this time nothing sweeter than unsweetened dark chocolate for me! I've also started adding a tablespoon of coconut oil to my coffee to add some fats to my morning and I think I'm going to eat less fruit than I have been and spend the fruit money on avocado instead.

                              I'm learning! I'll tell you guys something, I'm not a fan of calculating macro-nutrients. I'm sure it's beneficial and I might cave one day and give it a try but my goal when I chose to go primal was to just listen to my body and adjust accordingly. More fats seem to be the way to go.

                              But we won't know for sure until I've kicked the binging in the butt for a long while. Maybe someday I can be a success story. Right now I just need to get my diet under control, and start adding in some exercise.

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