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    Hi all! I heard of the Paleo diet awhile back, but never really gave it much thought until very recently. I'm 55 years old, have diabetes, high cholesterol and hypertension. I'm on prescribed medications for all of those diseases unfortunately. I would be happy to drop about 50 pounds right now as my eating habits are atrocious and I seldom exercise. I'm a mess!!

    The oxymoron in all of this is that I'm a nurse. Much of my job involves educating patients on ways they can improve their health. I have struggled with weight issues all my life and have finally reached the point where it's do or die because my health is suffering. In the past few years I tried going Vegan. While my cholesterol dropped, my blood sugars spiked sending me in to full blown diabetes, but the worst of it was that I felt awful... tired, brain fog, listless. My body seems to do better with a more low carb approach.

    This past week, I did a few Google searches, hence how I found this forum. I also picked up a Paleo book for my Kindle and have started reading through it. I'm not one to just dive in without knowing all the particulars first so I do have some questions for you more advanced members...

    I would love to get my cholesterol, blood sugars and blood pressure numbers down. Given my age and that I'm in menopause, weight loss has not easy for me. I'm curious to know what others out there have experienced. Particularly for women in my situation.

    I'm not 100% sold on the Paleo way just yet, so I'm basically here to 'learn and explore' all I can before I take the plunge. Since lowering cholesterol, blood pressure and blood sugars are of the most importance to me, I'm curious to know how others have fared in those areas as well. What other benefits have you noticed since becoming Paleo? Would you recommend this to a female in her 50's and beyond?

    I had explored Atkins, but found it to be too restrictive with regard to the consumption of vegetables and fruits. I like the fact that the Paleo way offers plenty of those lovely nutrients! It's looking promising, but I need more information still.

    Can't wait to hear all about your experiences.

    Best,
    Jenny

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    Give it a go for 30 days and see how it goes. You can't do any damage in 30 days by just eating veggies, fruit and meat/fish/eggs that you couldn't undo easily enough by going back to the way you eat now..

    And if you find that you don't like looking and feeling better, you can always go vegan
    If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

    Originally posted by tfarny
    If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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    • #3
      P.S. I downloaded all of Mark's 'freebies' tonight and will take a look at them tomorrow in more detail!

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      • #4
        Welcome Jenny. You found this just like I did. I stumbled on the site, read a lot, and jumped in. I will say that I finally have a respect for my body and food. Do your research and find what's best for you.

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        • #5
          there are so many success story posts about those very things that i'd be here all night listing them

          so i'll just say for myself that cutting out wheat and margarine has led to plenty of positive results. body aches went away, weight gain stopped, some hormonal issues reversed etc etc etc

          try it for a month, you might like it
          beautiful
          yeah you are

          Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
          lol

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          • #6
            Greetings and salivations, As a guy I dont know how much relevance this has but in april I was 360 lbs, 195/135 bp on 3 different max dose meds, had T2 Diabetes, IBS and massive arthritis. Now I am 270, 145/80 bp no longer on meds, the T2 is gone gone gone. The IBS is gone so long as I dont cheat and the pain is 100000000 x less.

            On top of this my anxiety and depressive issues are all gone or at least I dont notice them.

            Give it a try for 30 days, you wont regret it.
            Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

            Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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            • #7
              Warmbear - That's fantastic! If that isn't motivation enough, I don't know what is!!

              What exactly do you eat? Do you use any supplements? Amazing!!

              Jenny

              Originally posted by Warmbear View Post
              Greetings and salivations, As a guy I dont know how much relevance this has but in april I was 360 lbs, 195/135 bp on 3 different max dose meds, had T2 Diabetes, IBS and massive arthritis. Now I am 270, 145/80 bp no longer on meds, the T2 is gone gone gone. The IBS is gone so long as I dont cheat and the pain is 100000000 x less.

              On top of this my anxiety and depressive issues are all gone or at least I dont notice them.

              Give it a try for 30 days, you wont regret it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jfedei View Post
                I'm curious to know what others out there have experienced. Particularly for women in my situation.
                Sorry, skimmed through your post earlier on and missed this bit.

                I've been paleo/primal for 4 years or so now. I came to it for general health rather than weight loss, but some nice side affects have been curing the chronic IBS that I'd suffered for years, lost several inches of fat from my waist and found it the easiest way to maintain a good body composition ( I don't say weight as over the years I've varied from a skinny long distance runner to a body builder and all sorts in between ).

                My father has cured his IBS after suffering for over 30 years, life long acne, lost inches, has a visible six pack and gotten off of statins. He's 64 in a few weeks.

                My mum's insomnia and restless leg syndrome are both vastly improved. Mum is 63.

                Both of the have also noticed improvement in arthritis and energy levels, and while they aren't the strictest adherents they notice the differences when the veer to far from the track. They started emating Primally early last year.
                Last edited by Misabi; 10-23-2012, 10:38 PM. Reason: Damn autocorrect!!
                If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

                Originally posted by tfarny
                If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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                • #9
                  Welcome Jenny, I agree with above posters - give it a try you have nothing to lose. Overall, I have found this way of eating the best for my general health and wellbeing - smoothing out mood swings, getting rid of bloated feelings, weight loss and maintenance. It's also absolutely delicious and very easy to adhere to.

                  I am 48, discovered primal in June and jumped in straight away because it just seemed to make so much sense. I was already keen on eating wholesomely, and understood the benefits of low carb for weight loss. With primal I finally ditched the grains and that turned out to be key I needed to unlock even more advantages - digestion is so much smoother, bloating has disappeared, weight lost has NOT come back, etc etc.

                  I also got rid of processed oils and replaced with the likes of bacon, dripping, butter and cream. Doesn't sound like a diet, does it? I testify that my food is so satisfying that I generally don't get cravings or gain weight, in fact I am finding it a little hard to stop losing any more.

                  I eat eggs for breakfast (usually as an omelette or frittata with veges and sometimes cheese and/or bacon).
                  Lunch is often leftovers from dinner. Or a big salad with feta, olives, avocado, cashews etc. Or homemade meat and vege soup.
                  Dinner is meat and veges. (I often post my menu in my journal if you want some ideas it is called Annie's Primal Highlights).
                  I don't need many desserts or snacks but if I do then I choose from berries, cream, dark chocolate, nuts and fruit.

                  Come on, join us and see what happens. Make sure you take your measurements before you start because I warn you, they can change real quick.
                  Annie Ups the Ante
                  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Annieh View Post
                    Welcome Jenny, I agree with above posters - give it a try you have nothing to lose. Overall, I have found this way of eating the best for my general health and wellbeing - smoothing out mood swings, getting rid of bloated feelings, weight loss and maintenance. It's also absolutely delicious and very easy to adhere to.

                    I am 48, discovered primal in June and jumped in straight away because it just seemed to make so much sense. I was already keen on eating wholesomely, and understood the benefits of low carb for weight loss. With primal I finally ditched the grains and that turned out to be key I needed to unlock even more advantages - digestion is so much smoother, bloating has disappeared, weight lost has NOT come back, etc etc.

                    I also got rid of processed oils and replaced with the likes of bacon, dripping, butter and cream. Doesn't sound like a diet, does it? I testify that my food is so satisfying that I generally don't get cravings or gain weight, in fact I am finding it a little hard to stop losing any more.

                    I eat eggs for breakfast (usually as an omelette or frittata with veges and sometimes cheese and/or bacon).
                    Lunch is often leftovers from dinner. Or a big salad with feta, olives, avocado, cashews etc. Or homemade meat and vege soup.
                    Dinner is meat and veges. (I often post my menu in my journal if you want some ideas it is called Annie's Primal Highlights).
                    I don't need many desserts or snacks but if I do then I choose from berries, cream, dark chocolate, nuts and fruit.

                    Come on, join us and see what happens. Make sure you take your measurements before you start because I warn you, they can change real quick.
                    I like the tempting and enticing way you say "Come on, join us..." Sounds like "Come to the dark side, we have cookies!" I might steal that for my signature! haha!!

                    Last night I did more research and found a gambit of 'testimonials' out there basically all saying the same thing you've each expounded upon. I went to bed with Paleo on my mind and now I'm sitting here noshing on 2 strips of microwaved bacon with 2 eggs cooked in a bit of olive oil thinking "I could do this!" Veganism be dammed (sorry, but after my bad experience, I had to let that out!)

                    I think I'm about 90% there, but I do have another important question...

                    With regard to percentages / ratios of fat and protein, is there a daily recommended amount? I saw posted on another forum that daily fat should be around 50%, and protein around 25 - 30%. I could easily do the 25 - 30% protein, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around a 50% daily fat intake. If following the Standard American Diet, it's projected to be around 20 - 30% daily intake of fat and in some cases I've seen even lower percentages. Is there a recommended range of daily fat and protein for Paleo's to your knowledge? Is there also clinical data to back up the results of these numbers as well?

                    If I were to follow the 50% rule on a 1800 calorie diet, that would mean that 900 calories should come from fat. That's a whopping 100 grams of fat per day!! I'm freaking out here!! Sorry to be so anal-ytical, but I gotttaaa know before I throw caution to the wind and jump in head first!

                    I'm sooooo almost there though. I've also been gawking at Paleo food porn and drooling on my shoes. Are you freaking kidding me? This looks so good. I'm jumping up and down thinking about the fact that I can have steak again!!!!

                    By the way, if I need to present this question to another area of the forum, would someone please direct me?

                    Thanks!
                    Jenny

                    P.S. Motivation #2 - Paleo men are 'hot' looking!!
                    Last edited by jfedei; 10-24-2012, 03:23 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Haha, eggs and bacon already eh? We've almost got you!

                      I'm not as analytical as you so I haven't calculated the ratios, but what I discovered was I HAD to increase my fat intake, because one can only eat so much protein and if I increased the carbs then my sugar cravings returned. One of the things I like best about eating this way is NOT getting the shakes etc from wild swings in blood sugar.

                      Fat is such a delicious way to avoid this problem, I can't get over it. Who wouldn't rather have bacon, cheese, nuts, cream, butter, dripping etc? I didn't eat much of these foods while losing weight, but now I need to and I enjoy every guilt free bite. Basically I aim for "enough" protein, "not too many" carbs, and "make up the rest" with fat (can be previously stored body fat, if available, haha).

                      PS. Eggs taste even better in butter. You can save your olive oil for salads.
                      Last edited by Annieh; 10-24-2012, 03:38 AM.
                      Annie Ups the Ante
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jfedei View Post
                        If I were to follow the 50% rule on a 1800 calorie diet, that would mean that 900 calories should come from fat. That's a whopping 100 grams of fat per day!! I'm freaking out here!! Sorry to be so anal-ytical, but I gotttaaa know before I throw caution to the wind and jump in head first!
                        Yes, I regularly am in the 50-70% of my daily calories from fat. Keep in mind though, that you want to avoid some types of fat, specifically fats high in processed poly unsaturated oils such as vegetable oils.

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                        • #13
                          Olives are a nice snack as well.
                          Your body loves fat as a fuel. If sugar was the best energy supply excess energy would be stored as sugar crystals not as fat. Don't worry about eating more fat.
                          I lost 14 kilo in 4 months, skin is beter, 30 year problemen with lungs and sinusses is cleared, periode les painfull and more positive effects. Am 49, female hand was borderline obese.

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                          • #14
                            Heya, I dont worry about fat, I eat a lot of meat, as much veggies as I can stomach in everything I cook and use oils and butter and bacon grease to cook with. If I get hungry too much I add extra but it is really not a thing I worry about. I am a poor working stiff, not like all the rest of these over paid yuppies that can afford grass fed organic beef. I eat the best I can though, fresh not prepacked meat etc and a lot of liver/kidney/heart.

                            I hunt and forage for as much as I can.

                            I take a glucosamine supplement a vit D supplement and a once a day general Vitamin. I dont do bone broth as my wife hates the smell. I dont eat enough Veg but I hate them with a passion so I count it enough that I eat some.
                            Primal since April 2012 Male 6' 3" SW 345lbs CW 240lbs GW 220lbs and when I get there I am getting a utlikilt. This one http://www.utilikilts.com/company/pr...ilts/workmans/ actually.

                            Join me at www.paleoplanet.net, where all the cavemen hang out.

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                            • #15
                              Yes I wouldn't worry about the percentages too much - you just need to find what you are happy with, go with your body and personalise your diet to suit you, within the overall framework of palo/primal obviously. Personally, I eat quite a lot of lean meats like chicken; eggs, fruit and veg as the main part of my diet, with fish and steak twice a week each. I don't eat dairy, so that is butter, milk and cream out - or at least only occasionally do I have milk and cream - you see it is different for everyone. I guess I am high in protein and moderate in both carbs (from fruit and veg only) and moderate in good fats. Just find your own way with what suits you.

                              I've been eating like this for about two months now. Lost over a stone in weight, much leaner and fitter, more energy throughout the day, much stronger, happier, healthier (lost the stomach cramps), sleeping better etc, etc positives in every way - just the usual story with those who eat paleo/primal.

                              Personally I would recommend Cordain's book The Paleo Diet, available on the kindle.

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