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    Hey all


    I'm female, 25 and a heafty 157lbs (only 5'2)


    I am rather muscular though, so I know its not all fat. Most of my muscles are in my lower half (butt and legs). I am looking to drop some fat and increase lean muscle. I was a vegetarian for about 11 yrs and ate a lot of processed foods, tons and tons of fruit and soy stuff and carbs tended to be the bulk of my meals.

    Needless to say I was fine in the begining but as it progresses year after year I put on more weight, had less restful sleep and got major sicknesses regularly (last winter I had two major respiratory infections and 3 cases of strep throat to give you an idea).

    as of January I began eating meat again (local, farm raised stuff) and I've been steadily feeling better. I am still bigger than i would like, not as energetic as I should be and sleeping through the whole night is still rare.

    My first expsoure to eating primal had to come from Nina Planck's book "Real Food: What to Eat and Why", and two weeks ago I found MDA. I want to give primal living a go but have kinda lost on where to begin.

    Any ideas would be a great help to this budding cave-girl


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    Oh, and I meant to say "Ex-Vegetarian"


    Lord knows I did it long enough to know how to spell it, lol.

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      Welcome from a fellow ex-vegetarian

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        Hey there CaveGirl! I'm an ex-vegan - although I was only a vegan for about 1.5 years, not 11 (thankfully!!).


        I started by eliminating all bread and wheat pasta (I still occasionally had quinoa pasta, but that's just because I still had a box.) And, of course, bringing in some meat. At first it was all lean meat (chicken, fish, lean beef). Oh, and some eggs - mostly egg white. I was still having a hard time accepting that fat was good for me.


        I wasn't eating dairy, so that wasn't an issue. I've actually brought that back into my diet, but it's not an important part at all. Mostly it's just a splash of milk in my coffee (I had been using Silk).


        After awhile, I started to phase out rice and oatmeal and started eating a lot more eggs - the whole egg. I would still have rice and oatmeal once in a while, maybe once or twice a week, but replaced rice with just more meat and veggies and oatmeal with more eggs.


        (Always organic, free-range eggs. And organic, grass-fed meat as much as possible. Also, never farm-raised fish.)


        Eventually, I got used to the idea of fat and started in with more fatty meats like bacon, chicken legs with the skin, ribs, etc.


        Also, since eating this way (lots of fat), I've noticed I can go a LONG time without eating and not get hungry. I'd say I don't even eat breakfast 3-5 days a week. Not because I'm trying to not eat breakfast, but just because I don't get hungry until 11, 12 or 1. I bring this up because I think dropping so many standard breakfast foods from the diet is hard for people. Eggs every day gets tiring. And many don't like the idea of meat in the morning. I tend to feel sluggish if I eat too much meat in the morning.


        Welcome! And good luck!

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          Ex-vegger here also.


          The first thing I did was eliminate all grains and soy products. I increased my fat and protein significantly. Eating meat took some getting used to and I still have issues (texture-wise) with some beef. After a couple of weeks, the brain fog will lift and cravings will disappear- energy will increase. It's a beautiful thing. I'm currently working on reducing dairy and coffee.

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            I have no issues with meat (oddly enough i took to it very quickly and I like to eat my beef very rare).


            My biggest problems are carbs (which I tend to crave terribly) and sugary things (which make me crave more sugary things). Also, I noticed that I tend to feel fuller much faster now that I am eating meat so I wonder how can I get in all the protein I need without feeling like I have to force myself to eat it all?

            Pretty happy about the getting to eat the fat part of Primal Eating. As a kid I always loves to eat the fat off of pork and steak my parents would always cut off their food (but I always got yelled at because they said it was so unhealthy to eat fat).


            Any clues?

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              Also, if it is helpful in giving advice, the workoutouts I do are capoeira 3 days a week (2 hrs each) and I do kettlebells for about 20-30 minutes three days a week.


              Too much, not enough?

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                I used to get horrible carb cravings too. I think it took 2 solid weeks to get over it, and even now the thought crosses my mind that I could go for some pizza- but I know if I eat it, I'll end up going through the cravings for a week after. At least that's what happened last time. Not wanting to deal with that is enough to keep me from eating stuff I shouldn't.


                As for eating meat, you'd be surprised how easy it is to get all your protein. Fitday was really helpful in tracking my meals. It turned out I was actually eating more protein than I really needed to. Some days though, like today, it's nothing to eat half a chicken (which I did- lol.)

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                  Your workouts look spot-on to me.


                  I only crave carbs (bread, rice, etc.) if I mess up and eat some - then I crave more. But as soon as I eat some sort of fatty meat, the craving goes away.

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                    I was vegetarian for 13 years, incredibly. That's a lot of tofu.


                    One thing that really helps with carb cravings is nuts. The first 2 weeks, I ate a LOT of nuts, probably 3-4 ounces/day of almonds, cashews, and walnuts. Nuts do have some carbs and are not particularly good for weight loss, so I weened myself off of them and now have a handful/day. Still, they were invaluable for the first 2 weeks.

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                      hehe ... me too .. ex veg / vegan as well LOL ! ... I started eating meat about 5 years ago - hiding at my desk at work with bacon !


                      I think Nina Planck's book is a great book - good solid info - while you are at it, read Nourishing Traditions as well .. how's it going ??

                      PrimalMom
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                        Was any of you an ethical vegetarian/vegan? If so, what made you take the step into being Primal? I am curious because my g/f is an ethical vegetarian and I think she would benefit enormously from joining us.

                        “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                        "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                        "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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                          I've been Vegan and Vegetarian. Vegetarian for the last 1.5 years. Now I'm at a point where eggs, some dairy, seafood and fish and nuts are my main proteins. I don't want to eat chicken, beef or pork at this time. I'm doing pretty well with the above list. I have been satisfied. The key to ignoring my cravings are to eat only when I'm hungry. If I am truly hungry then the primal foods will be satisfying and tasty. If I'm not really hungry then the cravings are simply that...cravings. Good luck and check back in, I'd like to know how you're doing as well.

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                            SS: I was an ethical vegetarian. I saw the pictures/videos of how awful the CAFO system of Big Agra was and it horrified me. I've always loved animals so it felt logical. Then I was given massive amounts of bad info from a lot of diff. animal rights websites/books. How grains were gold, meat was poisonous, dairy was all pus and bacteria, eggs were made from suffering and the human body doesn't need any of it (or very much protein, imagine being told that everything has protein so not getting enough is impossible. Cucumbers have some protein! Veggie burgers, fake chicken, tofu everything)


                            They honestly told me that family farms no longer existed and the ones that "claimed" to were liars because they all tortured their animals too.


                            I believed this for 11 yrs, ate grains and fruit like a madwoman, have weight go up and down up and down, mood swings were the same, I would get six (major infections mind you) almost monthly, and could barely sleep more than 2 hours a night.


                            I finally bought Planck's book and at first said that I would just try to incorporate milk and eggs into my diet because they were healthy (still was afarid of meat and suffering). Learn about my local farmer's market, more about humanely raised animals and recalled when I was younger and visting my grandma in DR every summer, she would only serve us chickens she raised in her yard, their eggs and raw milk from a neighbor's cow. I used ot be ashamed because I thought it made us poor that we couldn't buy milk (white pure milk) from the supermarket or that our eggs were brown and not all the same size (unlike the supermarket stuff).


                            I can't say it enough, Planck's book changed my life. It taught me to look for local farmer's that treat their animals with respect and feed them how they should be feed, slaughter them quickly and painlessly, and that eating like we've been eating for hundred of years is better for the body, and the environment (ever seen how many ingredients are in those faux-meats?!?!). Thats how I changed. I had my first non-veggie day back in January, and I never realized how much I missed the flavors and textures of real food.


                            ps: Bacon rocks my socks

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                              Cave Girl thanks a lot. She has almost exactly your

                              same stand, although fortunately she does eat eggs and diary. Unfortunately, however, her diet is still very high in grains, low in sat fats and high in Omega 6.


                              I'll get her Plank's book, maybe it will push her into at least eating fish, which would be an enormous improvement.

                              “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                              "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                              "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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