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  • I need help...seriously...I need help......sighs

    I just can't seem to make it work...and I am not too sure what to do.

    I just can't seem to see any results....other than bouncing around the same 3-5 lbs up and down...while my coworker doing the same job, eating the same way and exercising the same amount has dropped 15lbs...what am I doing wrong?...honestly it has me so depressed that my usual happy self and desire to be outside and active is dwindling and the donuts at the local bakery are looking more and more like home.

    I have been at least 80/20 since April 1st...following the recipes in mark's book etc etc etc and I haven't seen any real differences in energy, health and wellness or weight loss and i am not sure what I am doing wrong. It really has me in a downward spiral that I am sure is headed for a carb binge and i do not want that...uugggh.

    I am 38 years old, male, I spend a lot of time outdoors doing a lot of different sports and I always have. I grew up skinny, almost too skinny and eating anything I wanted. At about the age 21/22 something changed and the weight started to creep on and seemed harder to leave. now at 38 and 5'10" I float between 220-228lbs and i feel every pound of it. I have a strong muscle base and i am over all "healthy"...but just way way waaaay overweight and I just can't seem to shake it. I know primal is not meant to be just a weight loss is a life choice and a change...however the effortless weightloss was one of the side effects i was most looking forward to.

    any advice would be welcomed...if any one has like a 2 week detailed menu plan i would love to sneak it from one of my problems is creating meals day after day etc. I am also finding a lack of interesting side seems my meals all consist of a slab of roasted/grilled meat and a veg and a salad...boom...that is it..and while it is delicious it gets a bit please, help me if you can.

    If you are going to tell me how UN-dedicated I am etc etc etc just move on please...i am not doubting the program or the benefits etc. I agree with it...just struggling right now and looking for some guidance.
    Last edited by DanWebster; 06-22-2012, 08:40 AM.

  • #2
    The first thing I noticed is that you said "I have been at least 80/20..." IMO, that 20 frequently turns into 30, or 40, or 50 without us even realizing it. You don't have to be super-strict for the rest of your life, but I think that people with very deranged metabolisms and alot of weight to lose really need to be 100% for at least the first several months. Not because you can't lose weight with an every now and then off-plan food choice, but because maybe we've forgotten what good eating really looks like, or maybe we need to learn to pay more attention to what we put in our mouths. I have seen people think that they are eating 100% primal because of the meals they eat, and completely ignore the handfuls of candy they eat and Cokes they drink in between meals. I'm not saying you're doing that... but consider the possibility that your 20 is bigger than you think it is.

    My second suggestion, aside from committing to total 100% primal for at least a few months, kind of goes against my grain, but it might help you. Consider (ugh I hate even saying it) tracking your calories and measuring your portions carefully for a few weeks. I don't think calories are it when it comes to weight loss, but I do think they matter to some extent. Tracking your food for a little while will do three things: 1) it will help you get a feel for what appropriate portions look like, 2) it will force you to think about everything you eat, which will make 100% adherence easier, and 3) it will help you check your macro and micro nutrients to make sure you're getting the right balance of everything.

    That probably sounds like alot of work, and I wouldn't suggest it to everyone... I wouldn't do it now, but that's because I am done losing weight. If you want to kick-start things, you have to be really strict for a while (that's my opinion). When you have achieved what you want to with this way of eating in terms of health and weight loss, then I think that's the time to allow some detours into non-primal fare.

    Lastly... if you haven't done it already, consider cutting out dairy and nuts. I have consistently seen people report that these things stall their weight loss. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens often enough that it's worth investigating.


    • #3
      Yep, you've got to forget 80/20 until you're at your ideal weight.
      Go for 50 grams of carbs daily or less. Exercise every single day.
      Swim, walk, run, sprint when u can.

      Eat eggs, bacon, salad with meat, olives, pork skins, celery, cheese, plenty of raw and sautéed veggies, strawberries & cream

      You can do it, drink plenty of filtered water, green tea with lime, macadamia nuts.


      • #4
        Yes, restrict the cheese and nuts, but a little is so wonderful and filling.


        • #5
          Well? Tell us what you have been doing, silly.
          Crohn's, doing SCD


          • #6
            Or, you may find the exact opposite to be true! You may need to up your calories/primal carbs/protein/or fat (or all!). Weirdly, for me, I stopped losing once I got really strict with my carbs (eating under 50g) and eating too little calories. Now that I have stopped counting again (even though I just found out I'm pregnant), the weight is finally budging again! Of course, being female and pregnant, I don't see this trend continuing much longer. Haha. We're all different and you have to find out what works for your body! Experiment with it!
            I'm a 5'-6" tall female.

            SW: 212.4 lbs. February 14, 2013 (My second baby was born)
            CW:166.4 lbs.
            GW: 143 lbs.

            Just keep going.

            New goal:

            Get back to 80-90% Primal and back down to my lowest recent weight of 158 lbs. while doing as much moving and strength training as I can get in.


            • #7
              It would be helpful if you could tell us more about your diet. What is your 20%? Are you eating 20% of every meal not-primal?

              What does your diet look like on a day to day basis. Can you give us the run-down for a couple of days including how much? are you eating dairy, nuts, alcohol?

              How is your sleep, exercise, and overall energy level?
              Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )



              • #8
                Agreed. Please give us an average detailed day including exercise, drinks, etc. It'll help. Also, I have a link to my food journal below if you're interested to see what I eat.


                • #9
                  I am guessing it is the nuts that are messing with me.

                  here is an average day for me:

                  wake up and do a light work out of push ups, pull ups, squats.

                  shower...and often no breakfast...just have never been a breakfast person...if i do have any it is a handfull of strawberries/blueberries.

                  skateboard/walk/ride to work...about a 10 minute skateboard ride....nothing too hard

                  skateboard/walk/ride home for lunch (and agan back to work) for lunch I usually have either an omelete and bacon or salad with fish, chicken, ham etc on top...dressing is usually from marks books of dressings...either a vinagrete or a coconut milk based dressing

                  skateboard/walk/ride home from with my sons for an hour...or we go play tennis, bike ride, frisbee etc.

                  dinner is often steak grilled, fresh salad, steamed veggies such as cauliflower or broccolli, diced avacado/tomato salad

                  for desert if i have it i will chop fresh fruit in a bowl, drizzle chilled coconut milk over it and grate some fresh nutmeg on it.

                  snackss...this may be where i am failing...often my snacks are mixed nuts...usually cashews, almonds and macadamian nuts. I also have home made jerky, pepperoni sticks or dark chocolate.

                  that is a typical day..on tuesday, thursday, saturdays i do a longer movnat style workout in the mornings.

                  when i say that i am at least 80/20 i mean that i often feel like i am 90/10 or close to 100...but i am thinking the mixed nuts and maybe th fresh fruit are hampering me at this point in my progression. what do y'all think??

                  also I have been using coconut water as a recover drink after my work outs....i realize they are high in carbs..but i usually try to limit those as well and calculate accordingly to include those carbs in my daily count.


                  • #10
                    If I were you I would try very hard to eat much, much larger meals and completely eliminate snacking. You may finding adding a bit of fat to your meals will help control your appetite.

                    Nuts and dairy are a common cause for people to not lose weight, so either limit them dramatically or eliminate them completely. Also ham and bacon are fairly processed foods, so I personally don't use them as staple foods.
                    Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )



                    • #11
                      I agree with trying to eat bigger meals to eliminate snacking. Without seeing amounts, I wonder if you're eating enough. I find that when I drop too low in calories I gain weight. Might be counterintuitive, but your body needs to know it's getting ample nutrition consistently.


                      • #12
                        hmmm i will try bigger meals and try to avoid snacking...i don't do it often..usually after working out in the evening bfor dinner.

                        as for bacon/ham do you still feel that way if the bacon/ham are smoked/curd by me?


                        • #13
                          You are very active. You weigh 200+pounds. and you eat like a bird, theres your problem. 3 meals a day,EAT BIG. no snacking, i thoroughly believe that tho low carb can work for some people, for someone who is living an active life there is no reason you cannot be eating a higher amt of carbs, its healthy for you. 3 meals a day with a nice split of fat/starch and a nice whopping of meat will do great for your energy and flooding your body with nutrients. You might feel a bit weird at first but your body will adapt and grow stronger instead of reducing a macronutrient to very low levels, and for someone who isnt on the right track yet intermittingly fasting isnt the best idea, esp. when youre moving quite a bit. forget about tracking cals and all that, eat until youre satisfied each meal, eat 100 percent primal, you may gain a few pounds, but your body will regulate itself, and if you make sure youre eating big and forcing the food in, in a few weeks your bodys hunger signals will start to work properly and youll just naturally fall into a good eating pattern with good energy and great digestion because you havent limited yourself in any way. good luck!


                          • #14
                            ok well i have given you examples of what i eat...people keep saying eat bigger, eat more....give me examples please

                            and i am not sure i eat like a bird...lunch is often 5-6 peices og bacon or a chicken breast or salmon steak and salad...dinner is a large steak, or 1/4 chicken, or 2-3 pork chops etc...

                            so please give me some menu ideas, plans etc

                            as far as 3 meals a day...mark is very clear in his book that we should eat when not hungry in the just isn't when i need to eat


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DanWebster View Post
                              and i am not sure i eat like a bird...lunch is often 5-6 peices og bacon or a chicken breast or salmon steak and salad...dinner is a large steak, or 1/4 chicken, or 2-3 pork chops etc..
                              Seriously, I could easily eat this and I'm 5'7, 190 lbs and female. I completely hear you on not being hungry at breakfast, I don't eat it either. Where are you getting your fat from other than bacon and coconut milk? Your diet seems pretty low in fat. Do you cook with it? I can't really tell from what you wrote. High fat also keeps you fuller longer and is higher in calories per gram, so less need to snack. Also, eat when you're hungry, and don't eat when you're not. By this I mean, physically hungry, not psychologically hungry and bored. If you are hungry, eat a meal, not a snack. You often end up eating excess calories easily by mindless snacking, especially if it's on stuff like nuts. If you're looking for some menu ideas, check out my journal link below.
                              Last edited by Metric; 06-24-2012, 06:56 PM. Reason: Typo