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    Hello,


    Newbie first post. I found I really enjoy Agave as a sweetener. Is this allowed on the Primal diet?


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    Not really. It's okay as a sensible vice once in a blue moon, but it's not considered a primal food. It has a high fructose content and there's a lot of debate on how it is processed/made and which brands are better...etc. My wife uses the Madhava brand once in a while when she bakes her grain free treats...

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      Are there any sweeteners that are allowed/tolerated for my tea in the morning?

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        There are countless millions of people across the world who drink their tea unsweetened. Join us. :-)

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          Personally, I'd rather use a pinch of real sugar than risk the chemical nasties - there are various reasons to avoid them, e.g. the fact that your body "expects" some sugar after tasting the sweetness, so releases insulin regardless...so you end up craving more sweet stuff.


          Alternatively I know of a few people here using stevia.


          You may also find your tastes change eventually

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            I use stevia in my tea. About 1/2 pkt works for me. Then, HEAVY CREAM!!! LOL.

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              Yeah, agave is worse than table sugar, as it has a higher percentage of sugars as fructose. This doesn't stop Whole Foods from having large displays at the ends of the aisles with "natural" sugars like agave, honey and maple syrup. Sure some of the refined sugars may include a few more trace nutrients than other refined sugars, but a refined sugar is still a refined sugar.


              Going primal and then having sugar in your tea every day is like kicking smoking and then having just one cigarette a day. Sure, you've broken away from the pack-a-day habit, but that last cigarette is going to keep the cravings and addiction fresh in your mind.

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                When I need sweet, I have 2 options. I use liquid stevia for beverages. If I'm baking or doing deserts I usually use erythritol (Z-sweet brand.) It's a little cheat, but it's a zero-calorie cheat, so I'm ok with it once in a while.


                I agree with what buffalo said though, about quitting sugar but still hanging on with alternatives. I would suggest going sugar-free for a few weeks (or even a month) first. Then when you've gotten used to not having it, just a little goes a long way. Even fruit tastes sweeter at that point.

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                  +1 on the stevia recommendation. However, I've found that the less sugar/sweeteners I consume, the sweeter things start to taste naturally (thus negating the need for sweetener in my tea/coffee, for example).

                  In fact, a little while ago, I was at my mom's house and she made me a cup of plain, unsweetened tea. When I took the first sip, it seemed ridiculously sweet, so much that I even asked my mom "did you put honey in this?"

                  She hadn't added any sort of sweeteners at all.

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                    I sometimes take my tea plain. Sometimes add sugar. Sometimes add stevia. I also like a little melted coconut oil in it. I'd like to try adding coconut cream or coconut milk to my tea.

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                      Could someone please explain the aversion to raw honey? I can't seem to find anything on it. Thanks!

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                        Honey is high fructose (about the same % as HFCS). Agave nectar has an even higher % fructose.

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                          @Queen of the Jungle: awesome. I'm an idiot today and wasn't getting it. Thanks for answering my stupidity!

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                            my gf (not primal) drinks unsweetened tea every time, but puts whipped cream on her pancakes... every time. I always find it so strange.

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                              I wouldn't touch agave on a primal diet. It has to be refined, boiled, sometimes added enzymes to it, and it's very high in fructose. After reading the chapter in GCBC, I won't go near it.


                              I drink my tea plain or if it's a bitter tea, I add a little bit of stevia. Two drops will do me. Or a squeeze of lemon.

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