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  • #31
    So far I've been REALLY hungry and I've only been trying this for about a week. I think I'm not getting enough fat. I'm not eating terribly primal, my ratios are really off even if I'm not eating any junk/really processed foods. I find that almonds really take the edge off for me though. It sounds like you need some more snacks in your life, though.
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    • #32
      Day Fifteen :

      Heatwave here is still going strong, and I share a room with three other guys, so the four of us in an already sweltering room makes it really hard to sleep. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to wok out that everyone is on frayed edges due to lack of sleep. Myself included.

      Woke up at 7am, and headed to the fridge for another Protein Ball. I'm wondering if its the sugar in them thats keeping me going back at all hours? Is my insulin response running my glucose down, triggering me to grab another one? Hmmm... I started feeling really really guilty over this. Could I control myself? Whats going on? I even told myself that I was eating way to much sugar, that was till I reminded myself that in the ten balls I made, all I used for sweetness was 4 dates! 4 dates over 36 hour period! That cant have to much effect now could it?

      I got up, did a few chores, but was feeling low, and could not get to my salad ingredients, so I headed back for a snooze till 10am. Got up, grabbed a salad and some cottage cheese, and headed to class. Still sleepy and sluggish. Didn't feel energised at all.

      Struggled till lunch time, where I grabbed some more salad and a piece of cold chicken. Ate the salad, really didn't eat much of the chicken. Played with it more than anything, and realised I was not really hungry, just low energy. Need to work out whats going on here. Im full, just its must be that my body is still not used to burning fat, or I'm not used to using fat as a main source of energy! Its almost like I swapped fuel tanks, and didn't flip the switch to tell the system what to use.

      Ate the last three protein balls this afternoon. And a hand full of nuts. But still craving food, even though I feel full! Arrrhh... Now this is frustrating!

      In fact, I skipped out on dinner all together, and as I write this, I would love something really sweet to fill me up, but I'm not sure I will eat it. I was planning to make some more Protein Balls before dinner, but I had to run off to my part time job. If anyone knows any other great recipes that are similar to these Protein Ball ones (i.e. doesn't need an oven to make) please let me know! I'm a little scared about my lack of choices right now.

      Inspired by the post on MDA that you can find here : Primal Blueprint Success Story | Mark's Daily Apple I started looking into a indoor rock climbing place in town here. I think thats exactly what I need. To get my exercise in a way thats fun and social. I am hoping to go down and find out costs and the likes. I think a session a week should keep me covered with lifting heavy things, and I still want to learn the essential movements that Mark suggests. I have always been better at exercise when my mind is on other things than exercising.

      I have a full fast day coming up on Wednesday, so that will be very interesting. I never looked forward to these days with such excitement! Another chance to burn off some more fat stores!

      I will also be setting myself little goals to work towards, and share them here. Keeps me honest, and at this point, "Body like Marks" is a goal that may take some years. Need to get something a little closer

      As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

      Day Fifteen down! (So glad it is!) Day Sixteen is around the corner! Another day, and other ounce or two away from all that is me!

      Love you all... you just didn't know it!

      -Shifty!
      Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



      Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
      Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
      Numbers change every 50 days

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      • #33
        Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
        So far I've been REALLY hungry and I've only been trying this for about a week. I think I'm not getting enough fat. I'm not eating terribly primal, my ratios are really off even if I'm not eating any junk/really processed foods. I find that almonds really take the edge off for me though. It sounds like you need some more snacks in your life, though.
        I think your totally right Nameless... I just need to work out what kind of snacks I can make and take with me, so I can keep my energy levels up? Whats your favourite?

        -Shifty
        Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



        Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
        Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
        Numbers change every 50 days

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        • #34
          I started right around the same time as you, so really all I've got right now is almonds! I'm planning on getting some cottage cheese (not sure how much I like it though) since I can't find any greek yogurt with fat =( I still haven't finished the book though and am really struggling to understand the science of how eating primal works. I'd like to educate my family on it.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
            I started right around the same time as you, so really all I've got right now is almonds! I'm planning on getting some cottage cheese (not sure how much I like it though) since I can't find any greek yogurt with fat =( I still haven't finished the book though and am really struggling to understand the science of how eating primal works. I'd like to educate my family on it.
            I started just with vegetables as salad. It was the only thing I could get my hands on. As mentioned in my reports, I moved over to making a few things myself, and now have a stock of Protein Balls which are fun and easy to make. I also have some nuts, cans of tuna, and some dried fruit (cranberries) on hand in my room if I need to snack.

            From what I understand, its all about the right foods, and as much as you like. Sooner or later its going to have an effect, especially if you add in some exercise you speed up the results! Something I need to get into. Little carbs heavy food, and your body will turn to your fat stores for energy!

            Simple huh? (If I made any mistakes, please sing out!) Just keep at it, and start looking around. I was overwhelmed until I found a interview where Mark was talking about the PB. Then it all made allot more sense! Do you have Itunes? If so, plug in "Primal Blueprint" and start listening. The interview I am talking about was around 1hour 30 minutes! That helped put alot in place for me.

            Let me know how it goes, or if I can help in any way...

            -Shifty
            Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



            Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
            Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
            Numbers change every 50 days

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            • #36
              Day Sixteen :

              Late start to the day due to the lack of sleep, but I stayed in bed listening to some tunes to try and shake of the lack luster mood I have been having this last week. It helped! I got out of bed, hit the kitchen, and grabbed a small tub of cottage cheese for breakfast. Then headed to class.

              Lunch was chicken wings. Full of oil, skin and fat, I helped myself to a plate, and ate till I was not feeling hungry. I think all up I had maybe ten. I was sucking them down, where in the past I limited myself to just three, and then left all the fat and skin. In a short time, I was feeling full. Headed off to my room, where I prepared another ten protein balls before my next class.

              I was on a roll, so around 5pm, I made myself a Primal omelette with what I had on hand. Mainly vegetables, I cooked them nice and long before adding in the eggs. For fun, I threw all my veggies into my food processor, and blended them up. Not into a soup, but into a find selections of pieces. That omelette was made with butter, so I was good and ready to go.

              Dinner was a few pieces of Cantaloupe that I cut up and prepared for tomorrow. Tomorrow is a fast day for me, no food or water for the full day, and I wanted to have something primal around to break the fast. So I have my Protein Balls, and Cantaloupe ready for when its finished. Normally the school breaks these things with cake and stuff, so I didn't want to be caught out.

              I'll let you know how it goes, but I feel really good about it. Normally I start to really worry about fast days, but the way things have been since being on PF, I have a feeling I will want to eat out of habit than out of hunger. I don't see my blood sugar levels nose diving like in the past. Right now I am drinking water and just getting some more work done. The hardest part will be dealing with the heat.

              Thats it. If you spot something I could be doing better, please let me know! Im asking, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

              Day Sixteen done! Day Seventeen is around the corner! Another day, another step closer to my goals!!

              Love you all... you just didn't know it!

              -Shifty!
              Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



              Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
              Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
              Numbers change every 50 days

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              • #37
                Day Seventeen :

                Fast day today, so last night, I pigged out over cold chicken wings at midnight! I was hungry, so I ate. Lots of fat in those, and while I was not happy about eating so late, I knew I would not be eating or drinking today, so I was not so sore with myself. Normally I have a rule not to eat past 8pm at night! Does that apply with being Primal?

                Drank a bottle of water, and went to sleep. Woke up this morning a little more refreshed, and energies, so I was wondering if it was the cool night, or the extra food at the end of the day. Hit class, and it was weird not going to the kitchen for my morning salad and cottage cheese.

                The day went smoothly, did my best to stay out of the sun, and just caught up with some extra work I needed to do in the afternoon. Classes were optional.

                Hit my office around 6pm, and finished off some more work, before breaking the fast with the Cantaloupe I had prepared. It was a whole melon, and it went down really well. I then joined everyone in the dining hall, and grabbed a handful of grapes, and two bowls of vegetable soup. Still feeling the fast, I made myself my own Primal Omelette, which satisfied me very well. Topped off with a Protein Ball, and some water, I wont be snacking tonight!

                When I was at dinner, I grabbed a piece of cake, and without thinking threw it into my mouth. I chewed it up, walked to the bin, and spat it out! The minute I started chewing, I realised what I had done. And caught myself a second time later in the fridge! Tasted great, but like Clinton, I didn't inhale. I don't think I would have tried that if it wasn't such a long day. Still, no harm, no fowl!

                I got myself a desk today, and moved it into my corner of the room, so now I have a place to put my food down when I cook. I think the fridge may go on top of that, but I will see. Maybe I will cut the support bar and see if I can slide it under. Made my Omelette i my room, and my roommates said it smelt wonderful, just before they headed into town for dinner! LOL!

                Thats it for todays report! If you spot something I could be doing better, please let me know! Im asking, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

                Day Seventeen done! Day Eighteen is around the corner! Another day, another step closer to my goals!!

                Love you all... you just didn't know it!

                -Shifty!
                Last edited by shifty1; 07-20-2011, 11:36 AM.
                Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                Numbers change every 50 days

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                • #38
                  Shifty, I think you are doing brilliantly! Given the circumstances and your lack of control over the food that is served, I think a) your approach is realistic and admirable and b) your commitment is through the roof. Even though I am in essentially the opposite situation from you, I find your posts very relatable and inspirational. I figure, if Shifty can do it, well, I really don't have any excuses! I am well past the point of craving and temptation (and you will be too!) but you are a positive reinforcement and thanks for that!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Roary View Post
                    Shifty, I think you are doing brilliantly! Given the circumstances and your lack of control over the food that is served, I think a) your approach is realistic and admirable and b) your commitment is through the roof. Even though I am in essentially the opposite situation from you, I find your posts very relatable and inspirational. I figure, if Shifty can do it, well, I really don't have any excuses! I am well past the point of craving and temptation (and you will be too!) but you are a positive reinforcement and thanks for that!
                    Roary... your totally my brother in arms on this! You can make me a Primal dinner sometime! :P Like I mentioned before, your feedback helps a heap! Nice to know someone is following! You keep reading, I'll keep writing!

                    -Shifty!
                    Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                    Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                    Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                    Numbers change every 50 days

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                    • #40
                      Day Eighteen.....

                      Alright, lack of sleep has just been building, and I hate breaking the "get enough sleep" rule. I cant do anything about the heat, but I started reading up on dealing with some of the things in my mind, and have been taking steps towards dealing with it! If nothing else, just so I can sleep soundly, and be refreshed!

                      After the meal last night, everyone was up late, and I found myself snacking on some nuts at around two am. The whole house was up and chatting. I guess with the amount of sugar that everyone ate, its to be expected.

                      I have also noticed that I have been sleeping very soundly around 5am-10am! Until then, Im tossing and turning the whole night. I wonder if there is anything that anyone can suggest that may help with that. Maybe its my normal cycle, Im not sure.

                      Missed breakfast all together, hit class, made it to lunch, which was meat and bread. Grabbed a place of the meat filling, and a salad, and finished it quickly. Then got chased out of the kitchen by the chef who told me to keep my food clear of his, and find a smaller box for the fridge! He a grumpy old guy, and when I checked what was going on, it seems that someone had been helping themselves to the stuff I have prepped! Cant wait till I have my own fridge!

                      Dinner was a simple affair, I prepped more veggies,and ate as I went along, with two bowls of veggie soup to fill me up, and some cottage cheese as a take away. Headed to the office, ate the cottage cheese, and then fired up the workout program that Mark gives away. Got through 50 Wall pushups before some others hit the office, but definitely felt it. Im looking at going through one exercise a day till Im confident I can do them all in a set! Looking at technique more than strength at this point. What do you all think? Will I negate the work if I break it up?

                      Thats it for todays report! If you spot something I could be doing better, please let me know! Im asking, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

                      Day Eighteen done! Day Nineteen is around the corner! Another day, and right now it feels like a lifetime!!

                      Love you all... you just didn't know it!

                      -Shifty!
                      Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                      Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                      Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                      Numbers change every 50 days

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                      • #41
                        Day Nineteen :

                        Slept well for a change. Had a late night, but I did sleep solidly! Got up around 10am again, to run to class, skipping breakfast. Didn't feel like eating, so I listened to my body.

                        Class, the hit lunch. Lunch for me was a piece of chicken, cause I knew that I would be having a late lunch with some friends form Australia, and that for me was a salad with a little greek feta thrown in, and an orange juice. First time I have had juice since I started this! It was a nice change but back to water for me. Someone once said for me not to drink my sugar, and it was sound advice!

                        Walked around with my friends in the heat, so thats another hour - to - hour and a half of moderate exercise. Tomorrow is my big walking day, so I should cover it fine. Looking for a chin up bar, and then I need to get some more movement down! Fridge is still on its way... so thought it would be here by now!

                        Dinner was a few slices of watermelon, and after writing this, I am thinking about going and making up a salad. I think there are a few hard boiled eggs on offer, so I may have one or two... Should fill me up

                        Finished my Protein Balls, so I will go out and get some more ingredients tomorrow. Heading out over the sabbath gain, so I will write up my exploits Saturday night, when I get back. This will be a test, cause I didn't warn them I am Primal, but I feel I have a good handle on it now, and I should be able to deal with it. I'll still be taking my nuts, just in case!

                        Thats it for todays report! If you spot something I could be doing better, please let me know! Im asking, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

                        Day Nineteen done! Day Twenty is around the corner! Kinda like my own thirty day challenge, but for life!!

                        Love you all... you just didn't know it!

                        -Shifty!
                        Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                        Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                        Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                        Numbers change every 50 days

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                        • #42
                          Day Twenty :

                          First friday in a while where I didnt have to run out the door early to make a work appointment! Slept in, and missed breakfast, before calling home, and catching up with the folks (I count that as part of the "having fun" rule).

                          Lunchtime rolled around and I grabbed my usual salad, and a leftover piece of chicken, broke it all up, and that was lunch. I knew I would be travelling out to a friends place, so I ate big, not sure about what I could have while on the road. I did grab my tub of nuts just in case.

                          Spent the arvo on and off buses before getting to my destination. One of the great things about being active was that I didn't feel hungry at all, my mind was elsewhere. I didn't tell my friends that I was keeping Primal, this was the big test to see if I could walk off the street and eat without missing out. I felt that after the last three weeks, I could totally do it. And I did!

                          Dinner was the usual Friday night affair. I missed all the bread, which is an issue cause there is so much of it available, (My friends had two full egg loafs on their table, and I wont say I didn't wish to have some!) but I stayed away. Bread is a way of celebrating the sabbat for me, but I found out tht I can do the same with wine. Good excuse to have a glass

                          Dinner was some assorted dips, chicken soup and vegetables, and some chicken with some cooked veggies. Ever since I started eating the skin, I find that I feel full really quickly, and even though I ate little compared to everyone else, I was totally satisfied. It was a long dinner, starting at 8pm and finishing just before midnight! Heaps of cakes and fruit and I did have one scoop of sorbet to treat myself. I do miss my sweets...

                          After diner it was bed time, and I got stuck with to much sugar in the system to drop off straight away. Took me a few hours, something that has happened to me for years. Like I overcharge the system when I need to wind down. Shame I didn't have someone to work that off with

                          Day Twenty One :

                          Woke up early, and headed down to take care of some spiritual stuff Finished and there was some food laid out, mostly carbs and grains but I did spy some pickled herring, which I have not tried since I was a kid and realised that it has a horrible taste. Still, fish is better than pretzels, which were grabbed by all the kids anyway, so I knew someone was looking out for me! I wish I could still eat all that and not put on an ounce! To be young I guess!

                          A few grapes and some herring and I was on my way! Heading back to my friends house they had lunch ready, which for me was another two pieces of chicken and some fresh salad. For me that was more than enough, and I headed for a walk to the park and some time alone. Got back for dinner, which was two hard boiled eggs, some cheese, one hard yellow, and the other fetta, and some salad and dips. Amazing what a few things can do to change up your meal plan. I was offered to take some food with me, but I had nowhere to put it when I got back to my room. Darn fridge, arrive already!

                          So I jumped on a bus, and got back into town at 12am, and had an option to jump another bus to get closer home or walk it. I op-ed to walk, and get some more exercise in. another hour racked up, and thankfully it was nice and cool. When I got to my room, it was still stinking hot, with the window closed. You have no idea what thats like with four guys in one small room.

                          That was my weekend report! If you spot something I could be doing better, please let me know! Im asking, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible. If I know I can share, I know I cant cheat!

                          Day Twenty and Day Twenty One done! Day Twenty two is around the corner! Who knew I would be writing and still being Primal!!

                          Love you all... you just didn't know it!

                          -Shifty!
                          Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                          Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                          Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                          Numbers change every 50 days

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                          • #43
                            Day Twenty Two :

                            Crunch time for me!

                            I have been sticking with what I have believed to be what the Primal Blueprint is all about, cutting out all grains, and eating a high fat diet. I freely admit that I have not been sticking to the exercise part of the program, finding myself a little under the radar when it comes to exercise! I have been walking more than whats been prescribed, but no lifting heavy things or sprinting! So the last four days I have been listing down everything that I have been eating, and I opened up a fitday account!

                            And my heart sunk!

                            First off, let me just say that if these are the numbers I have been getting while on the Primal Fitness program, I am scared to see what the numbers would say if I put in what I normally eat! It would have to be well over the 500 grams of carbs a day!

                            I'm not going to bore you with all the details, all I can say that alot of foods thought were low carb are exactly not! In fact, today I ate 5 dates cause I could not find anything else at hand, thinking "They are fruit, they cant be a problem" and when put the them into fitday, I blew my carbs off the roof!

                            Dates:

                            Cals : 332 Fat (g) : 0.2 Carbs (g): 90.0 Prot (g): 2.2

                            Never in a million years did I think that this is what was going on. I have been satisfying my sweet tooth my eating watermelon, cantaloup, and other fruits, now only to discover that I have been dumping carbs into my diet like crazy! No wonder I have not made the progress that I have been hoping for!

                            To say this has got me down, would be an understatement! Right now I have resolved to keep a log of everything I eat, and then put it into fitday and find out what I should be eating. I would like to aim for 50 grams of carbs a day, and get into Ketosis. I thought I was already achieving being close, I guess I just didn't know better. I am realising that right now I am wanting to see results, and reinforce that I have been doing the right thing.

                            I also guess I will be going through carb flu again, when I cut down to even less carbs. Not looking forward to that al all, but one does what they have to. I refuse to walk away from this without the results I am working towards!

                            On to my daily report :

                            Woke up late again simply cause of the heat and lack of sleep I think I finally fell asleep at 4pm. I have been thinking about taking some Melatonine to help get my sleep cycle back. I know its not Primal, but more sleep would definitely help with my mood swings. Anyone have any opinions?

                            Skipped Breakfast, and headed for a nap instead of eating. Woke up hungry, and grabbed my 5 dates, some nuts and some cranberries! Wish I has some Protein Balls, I have to find some time to go get some nuts and make some more up!

                            After eating, I hit the kitchen at around 2.30pm, and grabed a plate of salad and an egg. Then it was off to class, and work till dinner, which was a mixture of chicken wings, and veal goulash! That filled me up, headed back to the office, and them put it all into Fitday!

                            Alright, enough of the letdown, now to iron out the kinks. If you spot something I could be doing better, please, please, PLEASE let me know! I am asking, and with around 500+ views, I know someone is lookking at these posts, so anything you can share will be eagerly appreciated! As mentioned before, I would love any advice, words, anything that would make this go as quickly and honestly as possible.

                            Day Twenty Two done! Day Twenty Three is around the corner, adjustments and all!

                            Love you all... you just didn't know it!

                            -Shifty!
                            Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



                            Starting weight - 2.11.13 - 96 kg
                            Starting measurement - waist - 116cm
                            Numbers change every 50 days

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                            • #44
                              Sleep: my method for fixing a sleep schedule is not to eat within 3 hours of bedtime, get some exercise in during the day (even if it's just 1hr of walking), and get out of bed if you can't sleep. Maybe try taking a walk outside (somewhere safe!) for 20 min or so and then see if that helps settle you. Nap, but only for ~20 min if you really need it, otherwise it will keep your sleep schedule messed up.

                              You will have some days of really poor sleep before you get it back under control, but it's important to try to keep to a normal sleep schedule regardless.

                              Don't feel bad about the carbs, it looks like you were in a good range, just not for quick weightloss. I'm getting about that much too (using FitDay to track) and am just working on feeling better before I work on cutting off more fat/working out more. I've stopped moving very much at all recently and it's starting to show!
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                                Don't feel bad about the carbs, it looks like you were in a good range, just not for quick weightloss. I'm getting about that much too (using FitDay to track) and am just working on feeling better before I work on cutting off more fat/working out more. I've stopped moving very much at all recently and it's starting to show!
                                Wow, I thought it was only me! I have noticed that in these three weeks, I have had a tendency not to have the same spring in my step! Maybe it was all the sugar running through my system, but I had a lot more energy. Hmm.. Anyone got any ideas on this? I guess I wont beat myself up about wanting to sit still, work on the computer, or rest instead of running around in the heat!

                                Thanks for the sleep tips... I'll put them to good use! Appreciate the post Nameless (sorry, I refuse to put the wonder after! )

                                -Shifty
                                Shifty's primal journey 2.0 -The daily online account of Shifty's journey in a un-primal world!



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