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  • #46
    I lost 30 kilos through running and eating mainly low carb over the last few years, and have been eating Primal only 2 weeks now. For a long time I didn't own scales and had no idea what I weighed so i was delighted to finally see I had lost 30 kilos. I could obviously tell from my clothes because I had gone down 4 dress sizes.

    I buy all my clothes now to be very fitted and close to my body, so I can tell immediately if my body has changed. Close fitted structured dresses in a non-stretch fabric (NO lycra) not only look sexy and make you feel great (assuming you are female), but are also a good way to prevent overeating. Who wants a puffy sticking-out over-full tummy in a tight dress. And when the dress gets too big, go buy another sexier one in the next size down. Who cares what the scales say if you look healthy and fit in your skin.

    Also, you can't beat a picture. Through Primal I'm trying to lose some of the final bits of soft jiggly fat on my thighs and lower stomach, and a photo in natural sunlight is definitely the best way to track that. I'll be taking a few each week. It also shows muscle tone and general health of the skin which the scales can't detect.

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    • #47
      Ways to measure health as well as fat loss:
      - Measurements
      - Clothing fit and sizes
      - Energy levels
      - Sleep patterns, restfulness, and refreshed-ness


      griff, these are my problem areas with the primal way. I feel physically great. my aches and pains-gone, feet feel great barefoot. digestion-excellent, but the other areas have not kicked in, I am not getting that elation people are getting when it happens,. been 7 mos primal. measurements larger, (mostly my belly). to be fair, I have had a few cheat days with some beer carbs(football season). other than that feeling very frustrated,gained 2 inches in waist, but I hope to keep hanging on , thanks for your great post's,they give me hope! and, nver do weigh my self, that is important!
      Last edited by tcseacliff; 12-26-2011, 05:59 PM. Reason: add thought

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      • #48
        Amen to the above few posts.

        A good friend and I both used to wear exactly the same jeans (like, *exactly* - same model, same brand, same size, from same store - we've been shopping together). However, I know for a fact that at the time, despite theoretically having the same sized bum, I was 12 kilos (that's over 26 pounds) heavier than she was. The difference was in our body composition - she doesn't exercise, and to put it gently is somewhat soft and a bit flabby. I love to exercise, and I've always been very well muscled, even when carrying too much fat.

        If I'd only cared about scale weight, I might have been concerned by the fact that I was almost two stone heavier than my friend. But I wouldn't trade my fitter, harder and "heavier" body for her weaker, softer and "lighter" body for any money. My hourglass figure kicks her wheat-bellied arse.

        Oh, and BTW, those jeans are too big for me now, thanks to Primal eating and exercise. I'm slowly getting closer to my goal weight - or rather, to my goal *size*.
        I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

        Oscar Wilde

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Griff View Post
          3. Weight loss is not linear. The body will often dump fat and fill the fat cells with water to "hold" the space, anticipating a refeed of carbs to fill up those storage cells again. Eventually, when it doesn't happen, the body gets the message and dumps the water out. Fat cells shrink, and "whoosh" - you lose five or six pounds in one day. You actually already lost the fat, but your body was hoping you would replace it. When you don't, the body adjusts - eventually - and your weight goes down a little bit. But the timing of this event is not predictable because too many other things affect it for us to say "after five days, you will have a whoosh." Everyone's body is different. The point here is that you cannot expect consistent weight loss or linear weight loss as we've all been trained to believe in. It doesn't really happen that way, no matter what Weight Watchers or Jenny Craig wants you to believe.
          This is exactly the info I was looking for. I have noticed when I gain weight that I think I can eat more without gaining, but a couple of weeks later... thwump it just pops up out of nowhere. I was really wondering if the same is true in the reverse. This seems to have answered it. Yes.

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          • #50
            6+ months after you posted this, it is exactly what I needed to read on my first trip to the forum. I've been a muscular girl ever since I was a kid (graduated high school at 160 , 5' 8" with a 24 inch waist) and now as a 29 year old mom of 4, I know I'm healthier than a scale reading can tell me. Yet I still find myself stepping on and off it 2 and 3 times a day and watching my mood fluctuate with the number. No more. It is now hidden in the deep dark reaches of a storage closet. Thank you!!
            You don't have to be sick to get better.
            Female, 31 years old, 5'8"
            Primal start: 1/2/2012
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            Living, loving and learning.

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            • #51
              I agree that clothes getting looser (apart from around the biceps) is all that matters.
              F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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              • #52
                I'm gaining weight!!!!!!

                Okay, I know there are other measures of health, I'm a believer in that - but since I began this diet my weight has gone up - despite not eating grains, gluten or cheese ( I use butter for cooking and occasionally have yogurt). I realize that perhaps I am eating too many calories and I'm going to work on that this week, but my portion sizes are small and well ...

                I'm now done whining. I'll let you know what happens.

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                • #53
                  Great post Griff.
                  You'll never see the light if you're in someone else's shadow, or said another way, life is like a dog sled team, if you're not the lead dog, the scenery never changes

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                  • #54
                    The weight is just a number. Found out a colleague of mine with a rocking body and a skinny little waist is 150 lbs and 5'5". She's wearing a size 2.

                    How do I look? Are my clothes getting looser? How do I feel? Those are the only measures that matter to me.
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                    • #55
                      I like the clothes fit- I love "the cycle of jeans"

                      Buy jeans. Gain weight.... DRYER IS TOO HOT! Airdry jeans, wear jeans 4-5 times between wash to prevent shrinking. Lose weight? I get one wearing, the stretch, and I am trying hot water and hot dryer. I'm on the hot water and hot dryer with a pair of size 16's from Target. This summer, they were air drying.

                      I like to weigh myself too. It doesn't get me down. And I never want to gain weight again without knowing what I am doing. I get cyclical water weight and muscle gain... I also get not weighing myself for 2 months and all the sudden gaining 15 lbs and that damn dryer is shrinking my clothes again!

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                      • #56
                        Ditched mine this weekend after being a daily slave to it. Had my DH hide it somewhere I can't find it. I didn't realize how addicted I was to it. This morning, I looked for it in its usual spot. A little harder habit to break than I thought, but I'll definitely be better for it. I can now focus on living a healthy life and not stressing over a number.

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                        • #57
                          A good compromise can be weighing on scales that estimate % body fat by impedance. I did this last week on a whim, and they showed I'd gained more muscle than I expected, which gave my confidence a big boost. I'm aware these scales aren't terribly accurate but my mind can play tricks when I look in the mirror, so I'm going to use them more often.
                          F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                          • #58
                            I agree that too many people get obsessed with the scale and think that it is the end all even though they have the knowledge that it's not and to therefore be careful of using it at all but I wouldn't go as far as to say that you should throw it away. I was using it as a tool to make sure that i was drinking enough water (in my earlier training I could lose one kg for 50minutes if i hit it hard) and for electrical impedance fat testers. Another factor for wanting to lose weight, not just fat was for my knees. I think that as long as you have it at the front of your mind that it's only one measurement that can be used in conjuncture with other things to establish your level of health or what to do to change your health then it's OK to use a scale every so often without any problems.

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                            • #59
                              Awesome post! Thanks Griff, I am a testament to #6. I'm still losing inches, but the # is not moving. Healing indeed! I feel incredible.

                              Throw away the scale!
                              Start Weight: 265.8
                              Current Weight: 234.4
                              Leptin Reset started Jan 1, 2014

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                              • #60
                                Thanks Griff.

                                I'm a newbie here (but a lifelong trainer).
                                I joined the forum with a couple of nagging questions, but it seems I no longer need one of them answered. Thank you for the concise, easy to read post.

                                Hazy
                                Commenced PB Jan 2nd 2012.
                                86.1kg, 23% bodyfat
                                Last assessment January 26, 2014 - 79.4kgs & 14.6% bodyfat

                                My goal is to:
                                Maintain PB lifestyle of diet and exercise.
                                Maintain weight of around 80kgs and 15% bodyfat.

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