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  • #31
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    REALLY???

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    • #32
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      I smell a troll - possibly two.

      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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      • #33
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        seems you have some pretty good advice here

        I just want to encourage you to keep going....and to say "Welcome" xoxo Darlene

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        • #34
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          Desperate, while my high weight was never as much as yours, 285-290 on a 6'3" frame, a year ago my (beautiful, hottie) teenage niece was looking at some photos and said, "Uncle Paul was really good looking, wasn't he?" I heard this through my mum. Or is that me mum? Ha ha....


          A gf from back in 1991 located me internet-wise also about a year ago. We used to ride motorcycles......and have other fun. She sent me some pics from back then, and like you, I wanted to cry. Pardon me for an ego moment, but damn, I was good looking, especially perched on my Honda Super Sport! (Age 45.)


          While neither of those events got me going, they have lurked in the background as I go through this transformation. Said gf is now, how to say this?, ample? She is a private executive dining room manager, so food is her life. I tried to gently inform her about low carb, etc., but she is having none of it. I told her I fully intend to get down to the same weight and BF levels of when we were dating. We'll see who is right!

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          • #35
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            eat less move more

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            • #36
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              Mark, I think we've got SPAM in the form of formula123

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              • #37
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                Pie,

                if it was only that simple....*rolling my eyes in disbelief*


                M

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                • #38
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                  Methinks Pie is a spammer. Brand-new account, doesn't appear to know a thing about PB or good nutrition, preaches CW? Spammer or troll. Ignore it.

                  Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                  Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                  Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                  My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                  • #39
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                    elasee and pie -- do the math:


                    Calories in - calories stored == calories burned.


                    Do some research. Obese bodies STORE FIRST, burn later, if they can burn at all.

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                    • #40
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                      Desperate, I feel you.


                      While not as heavy (I'm currently 206) I've still suffered a lot of the same problems. I'm clinically obese according to my doctor. I can't do a lot of lifting, I pull or sprain something every time. I'm going to have to lose more weight before I can start. So far, I'm bicycling my sprints, doing yoga and walking. I started doing a little martial arts, but even that kind of intense exercise will have to wait a little while more. It's too difficult on my joints and I'm 28. Far too young to be having the kind of arthritis I was having.


                      It's so easy to get discouraged. I weighed 230lbs when I first started Primal, over a year ago. I lost 24lbs in a year. That's so slow. It feels slow and it feels like I've not made any progress at all. I compare my now photos to my before and there really isn't much difference. Even today, I was looking in the mirror at my double chin and felt very very discouraged. "What's the point of this?" I said to myself at least once. According to fitday I've already eaten 2700 calories today and I still feel hungry as well. Looking at those numbers really makes one feel like a fattie fat mcfaterson. At least it does for me.


                      Though there have been some gradual changes in my health for the better, there have been some towards the worst as well. In my previous low-fat CW vegan life, I was getting 12-15 colds a year. I would often have the flu 3 times a year. Since PB, this year, I've had one or two and only for 3-4 days. I used to get colds for 3-4 weeks. Though I've had food poisoning more this summer than I've ever had in my life. I do feel more energetic, but I'm measuring that solely by the fact that eating breakfast doesn't require a nap anymore. Or reading a book. I still need a few rests throughout the day, but I don't sleep and 20 minutes of closed eye "resting" suits me just fine. My migraines have also decreased from 2-4/month to one every 3-4 months. I had one a few weeks ago, but prior to that I hadn't had one since May. That's a major improvement and it's easy for me to forget about that.


                      But what originally brought me to PB was the opportunity for weight loss. Though I've never been a yo-you dieter, and I've tried dozens of diets only to see the weight keep coming year after year. It's frustrating that nothing works after all that time and energy put into it. It's still coming off so slowly that it doesn't feel like it's coming off at all. My pants aren't any loser.


                      I'd really love to see those migraines drop off completely or even down to one a year is manageable. But right now, I'm stuck in "always going to be fat" mode, so I'm trying to focus on the migraines aspect and not worry so much about being fatty.

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                      • #41
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                        Desperate, cut the dairy altogether. Its been shown to slow weightloss even though its zero carb.

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                        • #42
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                          Dairy has carbs, what do you think lactose is? One cup of whole milk has 11.5 grams of carbs.


                          But cutting it out is a good idea. Besides being carbs and more calories generally that one in weight loss doesn't need, there are the issues of antibodies and inflammation.

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                          • #43
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                            Sorry yeah of course, i was thinking just cheese.

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                            • #44
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                              What about heavy cream and butter? Heavy Cream has 1 g of carbs and tons of good fats. Can it still be considered "dairy" in the negative sense of the word or should we consider it good fats?

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                              • #45
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                                Paleo Piper, have you heard the "Paper Towel Theory"?


                                Paper Towel Theory by Bob White


                                Let’s assume you go out and buy two rolls of paper towels, each with only 84 paper towels on it (one for each day of the challenge). You put one aside, and keep it for future reference (your before/ picture).


                                The other one represents you (I’ll call your paper towel you “Ed”). The core represents the lean Ed. The towels represent the fat that is covering the lean Ed. For sake of argument, let’s say that Ed wants to lose 21 pounds of fat, so (84/21) each sheet represents a quarter-pound of fat lost. Let’s also assume that Ed loses his fat equally during each day of the challenge.


                                Each day during the first week, you tear a sheet off of Ed, representing the fat he has lost for the day. Next, you put Ed next to the full roll (”Big Al”) for comparison. No noticeable difference!!! Even at the end of the week! This can’t be working for me!


                                But, being a good Ed, you continue to follow Body-for-LIFE. At the end of weeks two and three, you continue to compare Ed to Big Al, and still notice very little difference. That stinkin’ Bill Phillips MUST be a liar!


                                But Ed is determined! He works hard! Three more weeks go by, the sheets peeling off day after day, before Ed gets up the courage to stand next to Big Al again. Holy Myoplex! Ed is skinny! OK, not skinny, but less huge!!!


                                By the end of the 12-week Body-for-LIFE program, Ed is down to his lean dream, or somewhere near it. Ed is happy. We are happy. Big Al – well he’s not so happy.


                                The lesson to be learned is that fat, like paper towels, comes off in sheets. When you are heavy, you are big around. And when you are big around,that fat is spread over a MUCH larger area – just like that outside towel sheet. The closer you get to the lean you, the more each lost pound of fat shows, because it is spread over a smaller area.


                                While the outside sheet may only cover 1 layer of the roll, the inside sheet may go around 4 times. That last sheet looks like it gives you 4 times the results of the first sheet, but in reality, the results are the same – your perception is just different! And you’ll never see the inside, if you aren’t patient while the outside is coming off! – Bob White

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