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    After being diagnosed with food allergies over a month ago now, I did some research and found the Primal Blueprint! It has been a godsend, as I'm allergic to grains (and Soy). I bought the book and the cookbook and have really been enjoying the recipes. I have a 9yr old son who has severe allergies and asthma and I believe this diet would help him tremendously as well. He's a very picky eater and is addicted to bread and milk. Are there any kid-friendly Paelo recipes, tips, advice out there? Any advice/suggestions is much appreciated!

    I look forward to learning more about the Primal way of life!

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    Well the first thing you need - and indeed must - understand is that the Primal Blueprint is NOT paeleo, there are MASSIVE fundamental differences, which Mark has detailed, in his usual excellent and comphensible style here (http://www.marksdailyapple.com/whats-the-difference-between-primal-and-paleo/) - the biggest difference is that paeleos are still TERRIFIED of sat fats and promotes them as being the fundamental cause of CHD (which we all know to be absolute hogwash), they also severely restrict egg consumption (because eggs are so terribly bad, because of all the 'evil' cholesterol they apparently contain, dontcha know...?)

    I looked into Paeleo before I found TPB and realised just how silly (to me at least) Paeleo was.

    I'm not a mum, so can't help you with any kid-friendly Primal recipes, but many here are (NutMeg's usually an excellent source of such things, as is CillaKat), I just wanted to set you straight on the fact that Primal and Paeleo aren't two sides of the same coin - they really are two very different things...

    Sarah
    La tristesse durera toujours...

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    • #3
      You may be in for a rough time. You will have to wean your son of bread, but I doubt he'll like it. I'm not a parent so I have no strategies for helping you. You should try to find raw A2 milk (e.g jersey milk) or try raw goats milk.

      Also, wean your kid of sugar (now there is a massive challenge into today's sugar saturated society). What primal foods does your son like? What meats and vegetables are his favourites?
      A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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      • #4
        thanks for the warm welcome....

        I did mention I was BRAND new to all this didn't I?

        I have been in 2 months of HELL!! And all I have is this forum and a book. Sorry, if I'm not speaking caveman yet.

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        • #5
          I would start with the bread and keep the milk, just switch to full fat if you aren't already feeding him that.

          (I have two little boys.)

          Ok, so he's a bread addict? Well... give us some more info? What else does he like. My non primal neice and nephew are very happy without bread when at my house, but I have to be creative.

          Breakfast favorites: omelettes, frittata muffins with chopped bacon and leeks, crepes with fruit, a drizzle of dark chocolate and freshly whipped cream, coconut muffins (I can share recipe)

          Lunch favorite: The snack platter. Every child I have fed this to adores it. Mine has two cold meats (usually cold sliced chicken and either beef or ham) cheese (not sure if you can do cheese with your allergies) sliced veggies and homemade dip, sliced fruit, nuts, hardboiled or devilled eggs, beef jerky.

          Other lunch likes include soups and salads with meat and plenty of homemade dressing.

          The groklings favorite dinners: http://www.justinowings.com/b/index..../meatza-meatza MEATZA!!!!!!!!!! I make individual sized ones with pineapple happy faces! Chicken wings (for the boys I just do a spice shake, usually 2p part garlic powder, 2p onion powder, 2p paprika, 1p salt and pepper, sprinkled on the wings before baking at 450 until crispy!) they love broccoli cooked with sliced bacon, or broccoli cooked in butter. They adore cauliflower with cheese sauce. I've perfected a pretty primal cheese sauce if you can do dairy. Stew, chili (without beans), soups of all kinds, roast beef, steak, roast chicken, grilled chicken thighs, grilled or baked salmon served with hollandaise sauce. (kids love to dip!) Spaghetti and meatballs served on spaghetti squash or mushroom noodles, spaghetti squash lasagna...
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          • #6
            Have you thought about enlisting his help? Maybe you could talk to him about his allergies (my 6 yo has asthma as well, though we never have to use an inhaler and rarely have to use his allergy meds) and ask if he would be willing to try it out with you for a given period of time to see if it will help. He might say "no" right away when he finds out what he will have to give up, but if you help him understand that he can try wheat, sugar, etc. again after the trial period and that there are some really yummy things he can eat on this "diet", maybe he'll be willing to give it a try (I think 3 weeks is probably the minimum trial period).

            Have you read about the concept of a "leaky gut"? Chances are, that's what your son is dealing with. Maybe if you read a list of some of those symptoms, he might perk up and realize that this "diet" could really help him out! Good luck.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shrinking_Violet View Post
              Well the first thing you need - and indeed must - understand is that the Primal Blueprint is NOT paeleo, there are MASSIVE fundamental differences
              I really think you're overreacting here, and there are different versions of the paleo diet than what cordain wrote years ago, and primal is basically also a modified paleo diet. I think there are far more fundamental similarities than differences: Focus on whole fresh produce aka vegetables and meat is key, based on an ancestral diet. Afaik Cordain also states that the biggest issue with saturated fat is in conjunction with high GI meals. As for limiting eggs and dairy, I'm also of the understanding that meats and veggies are superior to these two types of food, but Marks primal approach is just less restrictive since they aren't necessarily detrimental to health. However both can be problematic in cases of autoiummune disorders, and if someone isn't seeing results it may be beneficial to move calories away from dairy and to a lesser extent eggs and into more meat/veggies. Cordain's paleo probably has more protein, and that approach also has its benefits.

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              • #8
                primal takes into account "modern adapations"

                Eg Paleo says - only eat what grok would have eaten

                primal says, let's eat closely to Grok - but take into account, that when he was alive - eggs were probably in a nest somewhere and hard to come by. If he was given the chance, he WOULD have added them into his diet if they were more freely available. Same with butter, coconut oil etc..
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                • #9
                  Even if you can't get him off the bad stuff (sugar) right away, try to get as much good stuff (fat) into him as you can. Be sneaky.
                  Veggies dipped in guacamole. Sausages for breakfast lunch and diner.. sweet potatoes and cauliflower mashed with lots of butter.

                  Wrap everything in bacon.. LOL

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                  • #10
                    I'm sympathetic -- my kid is just a toddler a few months into eating solid food and she's already pretty picky. We're doing OK feeding her relatively primally, but that means a lot of fruit right now. We're in the middle of transitioning her from low-fat grocery store yogurt with questionable sweeteners to real, full fat yogurt.

                    I'd say since your kid is older, recruit him into this by helping him understand what you're trying to do (as others above have suggested.) If he can see the difference in himself, or in you, that will certainly be encouraging.

                    I'd avoid calling it a "diet" as that tends to have a restrictive, negative overtone for some people. He might end up wondering if he's fat, or why he has to do it if he's not. How about "way of eating"....
                    "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amzzzy View Post
                      After being diagnosed with food allergies over a month ago now, I did some research and found the Primal Blueprint! It has been a godsend, as I'm allergic to grains (and Soy). I bought the book and the cookbook and have really been enjoying the recipes. I have a 9yr old son who has severe allergies and asthma and I believe this diet would help him tremendously as well. He's a very picky eater and is addicted to bread and milk. Are there any kid-friendly Paelo recipes, tips, advice out there? Any advice/suggestions is much appreciated!

                      I look forward to learning more about the Primal way of life!
                      I'd work on getting his vitamin D levels up first and his zinc levels. Zinc deficiency is a known cause of picky eating.

                      K



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                      • #12
                        Cillakat--you never cease to amazing with your knowledge of supplements. I had no idea zinc deficiency was a cause of picky eating! I'll keep that in mind if my husband and I ever decide to have a child together.

                        I do have a step-daughter, and while she's not a "picky" eater she definitely loves her dairy, sugar, and bread. However, when she's at our house we just don't offer bread and she's never complained. We do lettuce wraps instead of sandwiches during lunch. Sometimes we've done a platter for lunch like a pp mentioned. For breakfast she usually has yogurt or cottage cheese, bacon, and strawberries (she could eat strawberries nonstop). Dinners are usually some kind of meat and a vegetable. She loves broccoli, so one night we has asian style beef and broccoli without the rice (she didn't notice/complain). She also loves sweet potatoes, so one night we had grilled chicken with sweet potatoes etc. Of course, we challenge her to try new things she doesn't know if she likes or not be incorporating them into dishes where she can pick them out. For instance, we made a primal beef stew and she only ate the beef, potatoes, and carrots leaving out the mushroom and onion chunks but it still exposed her to something new and we just ate what she didn't want.

                        Sometimes you can even sneak in foods they don't like that are still healthy for them. Two recipes come to mind: One is ground beef served with lettuce wraps. My husband chopped up mushrooms (which she doesn't like), onion (which she doesn't like), and broccoli (which she does like), and carrots (which she does like) into pieces SO small you couldn't really see them in with the ground beef anymore. She knew we had put those in there, but I think she ate more than I did that night. Also, through google searching I found a recipe for beef liver jalapeno poppers. It's heavy on dairy, but it's a good transition recipe I think. The mom sauteed bits of liver with onion and folded it into cream cheese, stuffed the jalapenos with it, and topped with cheddar cheese. The liver is almost not even noticeable at that point.

                        Generally, my strategy is to emphasize what they like and try to sneak in some new stuff every now and then. Good luck!

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                        • #13
                          Primal chicken nuggets with a creamy Parmesan dipping sauce (dairy). I make these for my husband sometimes, he's as picky as some children Let me know if you want the recipe, I can dig it up.
                          Everything in moderation, including moderation.

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                          • #14
                            Cillakat is right (of course) -- thanks to her, I just started taking a small every-other-day amount of zinc last week for my ongoing lack of appetite due to pregnancy and the change has been amazing!

                            jqbancroft, sounds like you're taking the right approach with your step-daughter. Speaking as a grown-up version of a super-picky eater, sometimes the "I don't like that food" reaction is more due to texture than anything else. So adding the microchopped mushrooms and onion to the desired beef is a great approach. Even knowing it's there, it's just easier to deal with. This is how I get myself to eat meat a lot of the time even nowadays -- I add little bits to soup along with all the veggie chunks already there.
                            "Trust me, you will soon enter a magical land full of delicious steakflowers, with butterbacons fluttering around over the extremely rompable grass and hillsides."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MariaNYC View Post
                              Primal chicken nuggets with a creamy Parmesan dipping sauce (dairy). I make these for my husband sometimes, he's as picky as some children Let me know if you want the recipe, I can dig it up.
                              I would love that recipe if you don't mind digging it up!

                              Also, Jenny, thanks for the encouragement. I'm pleased to say that when she's with us, she's probably 90% primal! She has cane juice in her yogurt, and every weekend her cheer group gives the kids candy in a bag so we let her have one piece and then she forgets about the rest (whew!).

                              Good luck on primalizing your pregnancy!

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