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    err... woman, rather. 'Sup, you can call me VD. I'm a college student studying to become a licensed dietician, and boy, let me just say, it's been a heck of a time parsing all the doublespeak in my textbooks and lectures. After lurking around this site and the forums for roughly 1.5 years, I've decided to formally register and join this lovely community.

    I was brought to this site ultimately by a diagnosis of PCOS. After being treated (and trying to treat myself) with CW, only to find myself even worse off, I had the fortune of reading Michael Pollan's The Omnivore's Dilemma. It was his copious references to Gary Taube's Good Calories, Bad Calories that finally convinced me to give GCBC a go. I wasn't disappointed.

    I started out with Atkins and moved onto Paleo after being convinced quality of food mattered more than quantity of carbs. Unfortunately, due to some mystery foods at the dorm and the radical change from low fat to low carb (all while taking BCP and without any insulin-lowering medication like i should have been prescribed in the first place), I gained 35 pounds in 5 months.

    I've lost 15 of those pounds in one year, and I intend to lose 15 more. However, I've been unconsciously segueing into a maintenance mode. My main issues are that my eating patterns are somewhat erratic while at school, and that my exercise is inconsistent.

    My extra-paleo interests include japanese comics, fiction writing, and learning foreign languages. I'm interested in getting to know y'all!

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    Hey and welcome! That's some great gains with the weight loss!

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    • #3
      What was the omnivore dilemma about? What type of doublespeak is there in the nutrition books?
      My journal where I attempt to overcome Chrohns and make good food as well

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      • #4
        This way of eating will definately help with the PCOS, many women here have hormonal imbalances of some sort and they get straightened out. Don't be afraid to ask questions here, its an awesome, very informative forum.
        SW: 235
        CW:220
        Rough start due to major carb WD.

        MWF: 1 hour run/walk, 1.5 hours in the gym - upper/lower and core
        Sat/Sun=Yard/house work, chasing kids, playing
        Family walk every night instead of everyone vegging in front of the TV
        Personal trainer to build muscle mass & to help meet goals

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        • #5
          Welcome to the forum.

          Little Saiyan

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          • #6
            Originally posted by strom View Post
            What was the omnivore dilemma about? What type of doublespeak is there in the nutrition books?
            The Omnivore's Dilemma is a book that analyzes the way earlier generations (i.e. grandparents) used to eat, compared to the way we do now. The ultimate conclusion: if your grandmother didn't eat it, you shouldn't eat it either. Pollan wrote that Taube's information was very compelling, but decided to take a WAPF/whole foods approach.

            The nutrition books spew CW: don't eat cholesterol to lower blood lipids, carbs should be 60% of total macronutrient intake, enjoy everything "in moderation" lest you break out in orthorexia. Ketosis = death. Beans = Best. Fiber = Fantastic. (you get the drift...)

            They are coming a little up to date with the omega-3, but the best they recommend is fatty fish and canola oil. It IS the ADA standard that I'm learning, after all... But the ADA doesn't approve much of vegan/vegetarian diets either (mainly because of B12 and iron), which makes me feel a little relieved. And I think most practicing dieticians are looking at a more moderate approach to treating metabolic syndrome nowadays.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the welcome, everyone! Hope to see you around

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              • #8
                Hi there and welcome! It's cool to see another trainee here, I just finished my four years of nutritional science in Ireland! Are you far along with the course? I'm contimplating doing the Ma to become a dietician here (we have 2 seperate qualifications in Ireland) how do you find it?
                My primal adventures:
                http://foodfloraandfelines.blogspot.com/
                Cooking, nutrition, gardening, foraging, preserving, photography

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Khrystyna View Post
                  Hi there and welcome! It's cool to see another trainee here, I just finished my four years of nutritional science in Ireland! Are you far along with the course? I'm contimplating doing the Ma to become a dietician here (we have 2 seperate qualifications in Ireland) how do you find it?
                  Thanks for the welcome, Khrystyna! It's so cool to meet someone else studying nutrition on this board! We primal nutrition students have to stick together

                  I'm not that far along in my courses, actually. I just finished the basic chemistry/biology groundwork, a lot of which I learned about previously (insulin, glucagon, vitamins) so my studies have been pretty lax so far. I'm actually only allowed to take a certain number of classes related to Nutrition per semester, so I've had to "pace" myself by padding my schedule with nonmajor courses. I hear they do things differently in Europe--that the college system is only three years long and that they're pretty intensive.

                  If you don't get the qualification for RD/LD, what are you planning on doing? Are you going to get a Ph.D? What kind of options are there for graduates with a degree in nutritional sciences? My school has two programs for becoming a dietician, and getting a degree in nutritional sciences is completely separate from that option, so I'm curious to know how things are different.

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                  • #10
                    He he we sure do! In Ireland and a lot of Europe you can either be a registered dietician or general nutritionist, a hospital here wouldn't usually hire a nutritionist to work on the wards but would use a dietician but as a nutritionist you are allowed to work in preventative nutrition, admin etc although my course was largely geared towards the research and public health side of things. I could go and do another 18months to become a dietician but I don't particularly want to work in a hopsital anyway and there's no work here in it. Although if I were to go to the states or certain parts of Europe my qualification would be viewed largely the same as a dieticians, it's all very confusing lol. In Ireland you do four years for nutritional science, and it's extremely intensive, up to 40 hours per week with labs work and the likes. I'm exhausted after it, it was totally nuts! I got offered a research Ma that would have led to a Phd if I wanted it to but I'm not really into the research side of things so I turned it down, I want to work as a consultant eventually but I'll probably get a job in admin or technology in a food company in the mean time to earn some cash first.
                    My primal adventures:
                    http://foodfloraandfelines.blogspot.com/
                    Cooking, nutrition, gardening, foraging, preserving, photography

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Khrystyna View Post
                      He he we sure do! In Ireland and a lot of Europe you can either be a registered dietician or general nutritionist, a hospital here wouldn't usually hire a nutritionist to work on the wards but would use a dietician but as a nutritionist you are allowed to work in preventative nutrition, admin etc although my course was largely geared towards the research and public health side of things. I could go and do another 18months to become a dietician but I don't particularly want to work in a hopsital anyway and there's no work here in it. Although if I were to go to the states or certain parts of Europe my qualification would be viewed largely the same as a dieticians, it's all very confusing lol. In Ireland you do four years for nutritional science, and it's extremely intensive, up to 40 hours per week with labs work and the likes. I'm exhausted after it, it was totally nuts! I got offered a research Ma that would have led to a Phd if I wanted it to but I'm not really into the research side of things so I turned it down, I want to work as a consultant eventually but I'll probably get a job in admin or technology in a food company in the mean time to earn some cash first.
                      Wow, it sounds like there are a lot of options out there. I'm curious, though--how do you reconcile your own primal diet right now with what you've been taught in school? Does it affect how you advise others and how you go about your job? I definitely don't doubt the intensity of your courses--40 hours/week!

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                        Ehm well my course was actually very objectively taught, we weren't really told what 'good' nutrition was, more we were provided with various theories and evidence and then we'd have to criticically analyse them in class and then research ourselves some more. They kind of left us to make up our own minds when we studied a topic without trying to force their own opinions down our throats, we did a lot of toxicology where we did lectins, phytates and all that and we did a lot on diabetes and heart disease and even the role of carbs in their pathogenesis so we did do quite a lot that is relevant to paleo/primal nutrition. We did do clinical nutrition too though and that was obviously more a case of we were told what protocol was for various diseases etc. hehe ya 40 would have been a bad week alright, the labs really were crippling at times you could be in them for up to four hours a day if they weren't going well for you.
                        My primal adventures:
                        http://foodfloraandfelines.blogspot.com/
                        Cooking, nutrition, gardening, foraging, preserving, photography

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                        • #13
                          Obviously our curriculum is very different. I'm so envious! It sounds like your approach is so much more open-minded...

                          I'm actually pretty nervous, because in the US I have to apply for an internship after I complete my studies, and my school has a very small class that gets to complete their internship and their degree at the same time. Maybe it's because I go to a large university, but I always feel like I'm competing with my fellow classmates instead of being able to focus on what I'm actually supposed to be learning.

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                          • #14
                            Oh I wouldn't be jealous at all! One thing I am seriously lacking in from my course is clinical nutrition knowledge, like I know a fair bit about the usual CVD, type 2 diabetes, cancer and obesity but f-all about renal disease or other more obscure diseases so I really have a lot of my own homework to do now in those areas. Maybe you could try applying abroad for the internship? I totally know how you feel about te competative thing, my class was really bad too, there was forty odd pupils, only 3 boys so you can imagine how bitchy it could get. They were all competing like crazy with each other to get into the dietetics post-grads in England.
                            My primal adventures:
                            http://foodfloraandfelines.blogspot.com/
                            Cooking, nutrition, gardening, foraging, preserving, photography

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                            • #15
                              @voodoo-anarchy can I ask where you go? I am guessing you are still in undergrad studies?

                              Just wondering because I am looking at grad schools that have RD programs.

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