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    hi folks,
    i've gone pretty barefoot since this spring, with the bulk of my time spent completely barefoot and wearing either 5fingers or flipflops when the ground is covered in glass or i'm in a shop or something. i love it, my calves have stepped up to the challenge on trail runs and will now tolerate at least 10 miles of non-chronic happy mountain jogging if i feel like it, and my feet feel strong and healthy. i have one major problem though - i started out with tremendously wide and square-toed feet (my right foot measures H with a Brannock), so wide that before i went barefoot i was actually developing lateral bunions from even the widest footwear i could buy. barefooting is making them widen even more. don't get me wrong, not complaining, i love my feet and they're fantastic for swimming! however, winter's coming up and i live in scotland - where it's constantly wet (city streets are *never* dry) and while not frozen, quite cool all winter. wearing VFFs there would mean my feet were constantly cold and wet, which is not so good. anyone got ideas for some waterproof shoes that will support a barefooting style and superwide feet, that i can use all winter in a rainy city with the occasional snowfall?

  • #2
    Check out sealskinz water proof socks especially the ones for cold weather. I wear them with cheap water shoes in the winter and they work great.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by slowcooker View Post
      Check out sealskinz water proof socks especially the ones for cold weather. I wear them with cheap water shoes in the winter and they work great.
      whoa that's an awesome idea. the only thing i'm wondering about is how you feel about the waterproof membrane being so close to your feet - do you get sweaty? (when wearing goretex shoes etc i'm used to having the membrane not clinging, if you see what i mean.) this could be this winter's solution with a bit of trial and error...

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      • #4
        what about merrell embark gloves? they are waterproof
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        Primal Chaos
        37yo 6'5"
        6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
        current 338lbs 49" waist
        goal 240lbs 35" waist

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        • #5
          These guys: Soft Star Shoes: will do custom work as will others if you Google around.

          Hitchcock: Hitchcock - Wide Shoes for Men - Mens Wide Shoes, Extra Wide Shoes, EEEE, Orthopedic Shoes stocks up to 6E.

          Or just rip out all of the footbed crap out of a Bean Boot and wear them w/ thick socks against the rubber. Bean Boots by L.L.Bean®, 6": Made in the USA at L.L.Bean At least the lining used to be removable, many years since I had a pair.

          The Merrills in a D would probably be torture as well as expensive for what they are.
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          • #6
            merrell embark i WOULD get EXCEPT THEY DON'T MAKE THEM IN MY SIZE YET. outdoor company jerks always serve the men first... grrr grr grrr huge pet peeve on that one. soft star; will keep an eye on them.

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            • #7
              my bad. didnt get that you were a female. what does size H width equal in mens sizes? my foot is EEE wide but the merrels, even in "D" width are quite comfortable since the toe box is so wide

              maybe you could just wear a mans shoe in the winter? i dont know what size shoe you wear but surely theres something comparable?
              Primal Chaos
              37yo 6'5"
              6-19-2011 393lbs 60" waist
              current 338lbs 49" waist
              goal 240lbs 35" waist

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              • #8
                Look into mukluks.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mike Gager View Post
                  my bad. didnt get that you were a female. what does size H width equal in mens sizes? my foot is EEE wide but the merrels, even in "D" width are quite comfortable since the toe box is so wide

                  maybe you could just wear a mans shoe in the winter? i dont know what size shoe you wear but surely theres something comparable?
                  sadly, my feet are about 1 size too short in length to jump into the men's sizes, which start at size 7. just too much sloshing going around inside the shoes if i do that. otherwise i'd definitely do merrells. keen and merrell make reasonably wide, square-toed shoes, but even King Keen is a bit too narrow for my duck feet - if I stand in them for a long time I can feel that lateral bunion a lot.

                  mukluks - not so much - they'd be great for New England (where I'm from) due to the predominant "frozen cold" winters, but terrible for the "wet cold" of Scotland (where I live). Scottish weather demands 100% completely waterproof, not just water-resistant. supercute design though.

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                  • #10
                    I saw "H" and just assumed it was some incredible width beyond E and that you were therefore a guy. The Bean's come in women's sizes but being from NE you're probably familiar w/ them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by IvyBlue View Post
                      I saw "H" and just assumed it was some incredible width beyond E and that you were therefore a guy. The Bean's come in women's sizes but being from NE you're probably familiar w/ them.
                      haaaaaa... it IS some incredible width beyond E! unfortunately, they got jammed on the end of MY legs. pout. my dad is also something like an EE width and size 10 -- and my feet are wider than his, even if they're only 2/3 of the length. scary!

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                      • #12
                        Maybe we should have a wide foot members area! I'm really deighted to be able to go "barefoot and proud" instead of cramming my "off the scale" feet into shoes and boots.... It's just great. I'm a good swimmer too, must be those flippers! I work in Scotland and the seal skins idea is great except you still have to find shoes to fit them in. The widest flat shoes are still narrow for us wide foot gals, VFF are the only shoes I've worn that actually fit me. Hey Vibram make us some wet weather/cold weather FFs! I bought a pair of Keen's but they are just too narrow and my feet can't spread. More ideas anyone?

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                        • #13
                          For me the thing is leather sneakers that spread and conform to my foot w/ wear. New Balance made a pair in 5E that I wore for 20 years, of course discontinued. I bought the last 13 pairs in stock. I'm good until I retire. I wear them until the snow piles up. I've not ever found anything for the dead of winter that was truly satisfactory. Generally the older the boots are the better and I wear mine until they fall apart.
                          Last edited by IvyBlue; 09-27-2011, 08:24 AM.
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                          • #14
                            I have been toying with the idea of making my own footwear. Anyone had any experience of doing this?

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                            • #15
                              Norwegian here... West coast. Half the year is cold and wet, and the other half slightly milder and also wet.

                              All indoor exercise barefoot. Outside is worse. I went hiking in the mountains earlier this week. I was barefoot up to where it was snow. Higher up when it covered the track and I had to walk in snow constant, I put on Huarache sandals. Worked really well! Grip was good, just tightened them more.

                              Shorter sessions. The hike above lasted around an hour. Or divide into two shorter ones.

                              (Another idea for snow and ice or rough terrain, orienteering shoes. Thin, hard soles, good grip, metal studs, weighs practically nothing. A very simple shoe (but it's still a shoe).)
                              Last edited by Roa; 10-19-2011, 06:11 PM.

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