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  • My father has diabetes related kidney disease, could PB help?

    Hi Mark,
    My name is Sanjay and ive been following moreorless your diet for a couple months now.
    Suffice to say its looking good and i feel fantastic!

    My father was recently diagnosed as having diabetes related kidney disease. The doctors are anticipating his kidneys will fail in the future (but they havent yet!). Now i know you're not a doctor, and i'm not asking for any medical advice.

    But what i would like to know, is if maybe you could give a shout out any PB'ers here that are or were diabetics/had kidney problems that have been in a similar situation to my dad and used a PB/Ketogenic diet to improve their health, if they could contact me or PM, so i can get an idea of what kind of advice to give my Dad (he doesn't follow any diet atm).

    If you can, that would mean so much to me, my Dad is the very definition of grok and you'd be helping a young man give back to his father who has given him so much.

    Cheers, Sanjay

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    Hi Sanjay. Welcome.

    Unfortunately, Mark can't possibly read all the posts here. You can write to him through the Contact button on the home page. But he makes it clear that he won't answer medical questions. However, there are many of us with diabetes and kidney problems. (Neither is serious in my case, thankfully.) Search for "diabetes kidney." You will get a zillion posts to read.

    Primal does help diabetes. That in turn should help the kidneys.
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    • #3
      Thanks for your help Hedonist

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      • #4
        I assume you have seen this? Low Carbohydrate High Fat Ketogenic Diet May Reverse Kidney Failure in People with Diabetes | Health Impact News

        There has been a lot of discussion on this in the past, so hopefully your search will bring up some interesting threads to follow.
        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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        • #5
          Hey Jammies, i have read similar articles but i havent read that specific one, thank you for the link dude.

          Yeah ive managed to find atleast one member who managed to reverse their kidney disease with a primal type diet, what i'm after is some concrete steps i can tell my dad

          what to expect, what to cut down on (ive already got him on the primal diet for about 2 weeks now but need to know whether protein should be low or not. people with kidney disease are recommended very very low protein diets) etc

          its pretty much a severe quality of life type situation and i'm determined to not see him have to be in pain with dialysis for the rest of his life. the guy is an ox and i want him to return to his health like one as well

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          • #6
            If your father's kidneys are already compromised, it is important that he not eat a high protein diet. He needs to eat enough protein for his body weight, but NO MORE. Healthy kidneys are fine with a high protein diet and it will not cause kidney disease, but diseased kidneys can worsen on a high protein diet.

            So, if he is going to do the low carb/primal thing, he needs to add more fat calories to substitute for the carbs he is taking out and keep his protein appropriate for his weight. A good starting point is .5g protein per pound of body weight - so divide his weight in half, that's how many grams of protein to eat. If he is quite fat or sedentary, you can decrease that amount a bit. If he exercises a lot and is muscular, increase it a bit.

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            • #7
              How to Lower Your Blood Sugar

              Look up glycation as well.

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  Look up glycation as well.


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                  • #10
                    Hi Barb and Sanjay,

                    My father is dealing with a similar issue. He is in early stages of kidney disease, but is not diabetic. I'm worried that he's not getting enough nutrition. Can you - or anyone else - recommend any articles or references that I can give to his doctor regarding 0.5g protein per pound of body weight?

                    My dad is already 75% primal, but his "kidney disease diet" is mainly grains, sugar, margarine with limited meat and limited veggies. I'd hate for him to go back to the SAD diet. On top of that my dad is allergic to nuts and all seafood. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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                    • #11
                      Hi, I'd like to share a little bit. In people with diabetes, excessive consumption of protein may be harmful. Experts recommend that people with kidney disease of diabetes consume the recommended dietary allowance for protein, but avoid high-protein diets. For people with greatly reduced kidney function, a diet containing reduced amounts of protein may help delay the onset of kidney failure. Anyone following a reduced-protein diet should work with a dietitian to ensure adequate nutrition.Adult diapers provide an effective way to manage bladder/kidney problems without worrying about wetting yourself. It’s better to wear an adult diaper than to stay home simply because you’re afraid to be away from the toilet. Don’t let your bladder/kidney problems keep you from enjoying your life
                      Last edited by kethexx; 03-22-2012, 04:14 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Grains sugar and margarine shouldn't be in anybody's diet, you can always integrate missing calories going for coconut oil or other good fat sources.
                        If doctors restricted his veggies than his potassium levels are already dangerous, otherwise it wouldn't make any sense to make such a choice.
                        Kidney disease -with or without diabetes- is a bad travel companion, but going LCHF could be a good thing when it comes to retain health and keep body mass, you really want in any case to have healthy bones and a good deal of lean mass if dialysis is coming to visit. Your goals should be to keep blood pressure down (any possible cause of this failure process? Mine was "unknown" but in time an urodynamic study found a tiny leak in the ureters valves and it looks like that opened the door to a bad subclinical e. coli infection due to a missing protective protein in my system), his sugar always in check (you never know) and his body in the best shape possible.
                        For those facing kidney problems yourselves or in your families I wish you all the best, it's frustrating, stressing, it would have been better to be healthy BUT therapies are improving day after day and is important to know it is not a death sentence but a situation which needs little managing and help -and tones of patience and love, that really counts too.

                        Luce
                        No limits, only my will and the worlds I build.

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