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    I was amazed while reading PB that Mark also had his finger joints start hurting when he was in his early 40's. The same thing happened to me a little over a year ago. I will be 44 in November. Every time I stop carbohydrates, most of the pain goes away. I experimented several times and each time brought the same results. No grains, no pain. So now I am doing my best to be Primal but at times it can be difficult with a 3 and 6 y/o in the house. This last time that I ended up eating carbs was at a football party and it is taking longer for pain to subside. Any suggestions on supplements to ease this up a bit?


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    Glucosamine and chondroitin will help with joint pain, but it sounds to me like you have the same grain hypersensitivity/allergy that I do. I had rheumatoid arthritis. Since I stopped eating wheat, I've had no more arthritis pain anywhere.


    I'd rather have the pain-free life and no carbs than the carbs and the pain.

    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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        Most lucid post by you, ever, Griff! Jus' kidding!


        Well, I've had finger joint pain worsen, I do believe, since going PB. I'm almost grain free, maybe a couple of ounces a week of product.


        Of course, "Proximity in time does not equal causation." Maybe I'm just getting older and this is part of my DNA.

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          OTB: I have no idea why, but I keep getting double and triple posts even though I only send them once. The most I can do is delete the text so it doesn't annoy folks.

          Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

          Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


          Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

          My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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            I've started getting this but I put it down to my addiction to computer games more than anything. I just went to Japan and Korea on holiday and ended up eating rice most days. The pain in my hands went away, which indicates to me that it was because I wasn't near a computer, rather than dietary. But certainly, wheat and similar grains cause inflammation, no question.

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              I've also had hand pain that started when the odometer rolled to 40. I put it down to my job, which alternates computer use with repetitive stress-inducing lab prep work, on top of the ravages of a history of gymnastics, martial arts, and cycling (shifting frequently spares your knees at the expense of your hands). I had good luck with a supplement called Zyflamend that relieved about 75% of the pain (can't do glucosamine due to severe shellfish allergy). Eliminating gluten grains in mid-June brought almost total pain relief. With Mom's 80th birthday celebration last weekend I had cake for 2 days straight, along with other massive wheat indulgences. This morning my right thumb was achy, for the first time since I went mostly gluten-free back in mid-June. Not sure if this is immediate fall-out from the weekend gluten-fest, a delayed reaction to last Wednesday's pizza pig-out, or a cumulative effect from the combination. Yeah, when some of us fall off the wagon, we keep bouncing down the street. On the bright side, I am almost 19 hours into a 24-hour IF and I've had no increase in hunger twinges despite the high-carb lead-in over the times when I've gone in low-carb. These twinge lasts less than 10 minutes and occur around 18 hours or more after my last meal (seems an exaggeration to call it a genuine "pang"). I will be very interested to see how long this thumb pain persists now that the gluten onslaught has ceased. To confound things a bit I did lift heavy this morning (among other things, 4 sets of 5 deadlifts, which do normally test my grip strength as well as my leg strength).

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                I had definite finger joint pain throughout my 40s. I went gluten-free about 18 months ago and all of the pain is completely gone in addition to a whole list of other ailments that disappeared. I realize not everyone is as gluten-intolerant as some, but removal of gluten grains seems to be a key to less inflammation. In my case, the biggest gain was eradication of migraines that I had had since childhood.

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                  Nightshades cause joint pain and are the likely cause of Arthritis.

                  The "Seven Deadly Sins"

                  Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
                  Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
                  Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                    Nightshades, really? I eat quite a few of those - I love raw peppers, and tomatoes and also baked eggplant. Maybe that's why the pain doesn't go away completely. I guess I need to experiment with that. Thanks Tarlach.

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                      Anti-inflammatory herbs help a lot. Go to a Whole-Foods/ healthfood type store and get them in bulk (or off of the internet), this kind of source is more pure, better quality and cheaper.


                      * Cinnamon

                      * Turmeric

                      * Ginger

                      * Bromelain (enzyme)

                      * Devil's Claw

                      * St. John's Wort

                      * White Willow

                      * Licorice Root


                      Too name a few ;-)

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                        Thanks SassaFrass I'll look into that.

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                          I get hand joint pain from gluten products. I can eat vegetable carbs ( sweet potatoes) or rice and not be affected.
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