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    i posted this question as a comment on mark's salad posting but realized it was from a year ago so i'm not sure it will get noticed.


    in that posting, 1 of the salads contained snow peas and the other green beans. i have since done further digging on the site and found many other recipes that call for green beans or peas, including mark's video where he makes his 2 minute salad that he eats every day.


    i am very confused because i thought these were legumes and to be avoided. can someone clarify? can i go back to eating these two foods? can they be considered vegetable options [even though i know they are legumes]?


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    I eat them. I figure if I can eat it raw, it's probably ok.

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      Legumes are not paleo, so I exclude them. It depends if you want to count them in your 20% cheat as primal.

      The "Seven Deadly Sins"

      • Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . .• Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
      • Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . • Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . • Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
      • Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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        We used to eat peas raw from the pod in grandpa's garden, so I'm confused about why they're not considered paleo.

        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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          Just because you ate them raw, doesn't mean Grok did. They may not have even been available to him in the form that we get now....


          Legumes are excluded as they contain lectins to protect the seed from being digested.


          Snow peas are a weird one as they don't taste horrible raw like most beans, but I lump them with the rest of the family of legumes - so they are out.

          The "Seven Deadly Sins"

          • Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . .• Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
          • Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . • Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . • Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
          • Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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            Yes, yes, we know. You're the Paleo authority. Personally, I will be growing and eating plenty of raw peas and green beans this summer.

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              Sorry for having an opinion.


              You want to eat legumes, then go ahead. Did Grok? It's most likely he did not.


              It's a pretty poor attitude to hassle me for trying to answer a question, just because my opinions differ to yours.


              I just wish that when I started eating paleo years ago, that I could have gotten such easy access to answers for all of my questions. Especially from people who have lived paleo long term and done years of research.

              The "Seven Deadly Sins"

              • Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . .• Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
              • Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . • Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . • Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
              • Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                I think that this question is really a case of paleo versus primal. Tarlach is very much a paleo person. As a paleo eater he is definitely correct in his position. However, Mark is not a paleo eater and in his primal blueprint he has identified a few exceptions to the rule. That is why he eats peas, and green beans, and tomatoes, and drinks the occasional beer.


                I don't think Mark would consider peas and green beans a 20% cheat according to the PB. It would be considered a cheat according to a paleo diet.

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                  Grok didnt eat sausages either

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                    I never realized peas and green beans were legumes and have been eating them as part of my primal diet. I like 'em and don't see a reason to give them up. It's not like they're a part of my daily intake, just something I throw in on ocassion so I'm not worried about it.

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                      Green beans are not legumes.

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                        According to Wikipedia green beans are legumes.


                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_bean


                        "Green beans (American English), French beans or runner beans (British English) are the unripe fruit of any kind of bean,"


                        and under Bean

                        "Bean" can be used as a near-synonym of "pulse", an edible legume

                        The "Seven Deadly Sins"

                        • Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . • Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . .• Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
                        • Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . • Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . • Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
                        • Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                          I really think that this is another situation about finding your own personal balance. For me, I can really only eat leafy greens raw. Everything else is too fiborous (I think that's the word I am looking for) for my system to digest easily; therefore, I generally lightly steam or sauté my veggies before consuming. Even if fully cooked, peas and green beans still do not agree with me; therefore, I personally do not eat them at all.


                          I know that this attitude of exalting personal balance over a fixed ideal makes me horribly un-primal and un-paleo. Whatever. I am more concerned about finding what works for me as an individual than engaging in some prehistoric role play. Certainly, there are some fundamentals which we all hold to be true; we can all agree that a grain-based diet with excessive amounts of dairy, sugar, and food additives is horrible for anyone.


                          Abiding by Grok's diet does help us to make wise food choices, but I do not believe that it is the only factor in deciding whether something is fit for consumption. In my opinion, there is no fixed standard that will work for everyone.

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                            Definitely agree with you there, Shine. Great post!


                            But I really think it's the best to start from a paleo/primal perspective, because it's most likely that your body will get along with it well. If you want to include things like legumes, no problem! Just be sure to observe what it's doing to your body, even though that may be hard at times, because certain foods might affect you in a negative way without you actually realizing it.

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                              That's odd. ....According to Wikipedia


                              Green beans are not legumes


                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_(legume)


                              A pulse is an annual leguminous crop yielding from one to twelve grains or seeds of variable size, shape, and color within a pod. Pulses are used for food and animal feed. The term "pulse", as used by the Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO), is reserved for crops harvested solely for the dry grain. This excludes green beans and green peas, which are considered vegetable crops.

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