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  • Tap Water???

    I tried some tap water the other day because I had run out of my bottled mineral water and my distilled water in plastic containers (on no, not plastic!)

    Bottom line, it tasted AWFUL! And my tap is probably better than most.

    I'm sorry Mark, just not a big fan of Chlorine and Fluoride.

    Oh and yes, I do use my brain, thank you!

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    I have a collection of post cards from City Hall. Every six months for the past 5 years I received a post card informing me that our local water has "levels of total trihalomethanes above drinking water standards". The card also informs me that "This is not an immediate risk."... "Some people who drink water containing trihalomethanes in excess of MCL over many years may experience liver, kidney, or central nervous system problems, and may have an increased risk of getting cancer." I am told not to worry because they are "currently researching treatment techniques to reduce TTHM (trihalomethane) levels".

    My community isn't the only one in the land with water problems. It is admitted that this is a problem throughout the state. At least my area informs us that we "are going to die". I guess knowledge is meant to ease out minds.

    I use distilled water. I am reluctant to use spring water since it probably comes from the same aquifer. Usually I distill my own, but if I purchase distilled water, I transfer it into some 4 liter wine bottles saved for that purpose.

    Final point---Isn't five years enough time to qualify for "many years"? Also, I wonder why no one else seems to care.
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    • #3
      Are you concerned with the taste of the tap water or the quality of it? If it's the taste, why don't you just use a filter?

      As for your bottled plastic, thank you for contributing to the trash vortex in the Pacific ocean. We salute you.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gini View Post
        Are you concerned with the taste of the tap water or the quality of it? If it's the taste, why don't you just use a filter?

        As for your bottled plastic, thank you for contributing to the trash vortex in the Pacific ocean. We salute you.
        Yes I was in a really bad mood this morning. I apologize for throwing out flame bait. Please don't get me started about BP!

        How much do water filters cost, do they filter out chemicals like fluoride and chlorine?

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        • #5
          I don't know where you live but in my city we have what's called 'watermill express' scattered here and there, it costs $1.50 for 5 gallons of awesome tasting water which has been purified in every imaginable way. I have three 5 gallon (BPA free) bottles that I go and fill up every couple weeks and attach to my water cooler. I love always having an awesome supply of water available.
          I began this Primal journey on December 30th, 2009 and in that time I've lost over 125 LBS.

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          • #6
            This has been something i have struggled with. I can never find a clear answer. I used to drink distilled water. Heard it was bad for you from Dr. Mercola's site. Don't remember why. Something to do with the stuff the distilling takes out. Then i switched to spring water. But always hated the plastic. So we got a filter. It is tap water so it is rusty etc. but the filters say they clean all of that and the flouride etc out.

            I wish there was a clear answer.
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            • #7
              I understand your concerns about distilled water based on Dr. Mercola--a fine man that I respect.

              Read a bit more of Mercola's comments. I think that you will see that he states that distilled water is the best for eliminating toxins from the body, but that once the toxins are gone something else needs to be done. Another of his posts states that distilled water is superior to other types, especially after sitting a short while in clear glass bottles with some sun exposure. He claims that minerals should be added to this distilled water. He apparently is concerned about a lack of nutrition yet I am fairly certain that he is a proponent of a totally raw diet, which has been shown to be very deficient in nutrients available for the human body. That being the case his concern is not consistent. But then he has not vendors of ovens or grills on any of his newsletters. Water filters, yes, they are there sometimes. He especially likes to hawk the PUR fawcett filter.

              Also read more about the Japanese scientist, cited by Dr. Mercola, who 'proved' that distilled water is bad. He also believes that water has emotions and feelings. I guess that all I would need to do to ensure that my water is great is to tell it how wonderful it is and that I love it. A few years ago I wasted more than a few dollars to read his books. I would have been better off watching Oprah.

              The only methods of reasonably cleansing water are distillation and reverse osmosis. Check the comparison charts found on numerous web sites. One problem with filters is that you never really know how well they are working. They deteriorate with time and with concentration of impurities filtered. Did your filter really do its job for 6 months?

              Spring water can be just as contaminated as the worst of tap water. Read that again. I said, "can be", not is. So, to be really certain of safety, even your spring water should be regularly tested.

              Sorry to say that there probably will never be a clear answer. It is up to each of us to research, study, and decide. Best of luck and stay healthy.
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              • #8
                I was at the grocery store the other day checking out water filters and the filters claim to filter out everything except fluoride! So much for that idea...

                Unless any non-fluoride heads out there know of a filter which actually works? They seem too expensive to be worth it anyway. Too much money and trouble replacing filters, etc.

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                • #9
                  reverse osmosis filters (expensive and you need a plumbere it looks like to install it) remove flouride.
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                  • #10
                    wow that sucks about your water. our city water is great! we dont use fluoride here, its been voted on and shut down constantly. however chlorine is used, and its really obvious when they use it because the water begins to smell like a public pool! but we get a letter in the mail a week or so before they add it, with a ppm estimation. luckily, we moved out of town and we drink our well water now. and we have one of those fridges with a water filter in it so most of the water we drink comes from there because its cool and filtered.
                    im pretty against bottled water, unless we happen to be on a road trip and im really thirsty. then we buy the big litre ones to share rather than our own little separate one. i have 3 canteens i fill and use instead for outdoor hikes and lake days.

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                    • #11
                      Never understood the concept of buying bottled tap water. Thats all it really is as Coke has already admitted it years ago with their Dasani brand. Gotta love Marketing. I use a Brita filter and have had no issues. Of course I've drunk extremely disgusting water in Iraq and had plenty of issues b/c of it but even with the extra chemicals in our water supply it isn't too bad. You want bad go to a third world country like Jamaica or Afghanistan where there is no sanitation. Not cool at all. And yes Jamaica is third world. I highly suggest going to Lime Cay if you get a chance. Private beach accessible only by boat near Kingston (just don't stop for th cops).

                      Is your question about the quality of your water or is it about making yourself feel better by drinking bottled water?
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                      • #12
                        Old Army trick. Add iodine tablets to your water to cleanse it or even add a little bleach to a large container (I mean pretty large). It'll clear up 99% of whatever is in there. Might not taste the best but its clean.
                        Today is a new day. You will get out of it just what you put into it. If you have made mistakes, there is always another chance for you. And supposing you have tried and failed again and again, you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'Failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down.

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                        • #13
                          Grok: water distillers work for fluoride.

                          1 July newsletter from Mercola:

                          http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...interview.aspx


                          some highlights:

                          In the case of water fluoridation, the chemicals used to fluoridate the water that more than 180 million people drink each day are not pharmaceutical grade, but rather hazardous waste products of the phosphate fertilizer industry; it is illegal to dump these into rivers and lakes or release the parent gases into the atmosphere.


                          In addition, water fluoridation is a prime example of one of the worst medical practices possible—forced medication with no control over the dose or who gets it. Perhaps most shocking of all, it is not subject to any federal regulation.



                          Most of mainland Europe is not fluoridated, and yet, according to World Health Organization data, their teeth are just as good, if not better than Americans'.

                          Today, even promoters of fluoridation concede that the major benefits are topical; fluoride works from the outside of the tooth, not from inside of your body, so why swallow it?

                          There is practically no difference in tooth decay between fluoridated and non-fluoridated countries, and no difference between states that have a high- or low percentage of their water fluoridated.

                          "We now have 23 studies from four different countries; Mexico, Iran, India and China, which indicate that moderate exposure to fluoride is lowering IQ in children,"


                          initial symptoms of fluoride poisoning are arthritis-like symptoms such as joint pains.

                          Tooth decay is caused by acids in your mouth, typically created from sugar being metabolized by bacteria (Streptococcus mutans), and as you may already know, the number one source of calories in the United States is high fructose corn syrup.
                          The acid produced then attacks your enamel. Eventually the bacteria can get into the dentine, at which point tooth decay sets in.
                          You typically don't find dental caries in more primitive societies that do not consume these vast amounts of sugar.
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                          • #14
                            Don't distillers take a long time to filter and a lot of space up? It would be best to have a installation under the sink, that isn't huge.
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                            • #15
                              Distillers come in all sizes. Time--what does that matter when you can plan? You can't get a glass of good water immediately from a distiller. Takes time to boil and then condense the water. Once you start up and get your first gallon (or whatever) you can always have good water.

                              Chlorine in water is pretty universal. I don't drink chlorinated water. Chlorine is in the water because it kills living things. I am a living thing. Distillation removes chlorine but so does filling a jar with water and letting it sit a few hours. The water will be chlorine free. What I don't understand is that many people with house plants and pet fish will allow the chlorine to dissipate before giving it to plants or fish tanks, but they will drink the chlorinated water themselves.
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