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20 Mar

Why Fast? Part Two – Cancer

“Everyone has a physician inside him or her; we just have to help it in its work. The natural healing force within each one of us is the greatest force in getting well. Our food should be our medicine. Our medicine should be our food. But to eat when you are sick is to feed your sickness.” – Hippocrates


“Instead of using medicine, rather fast a day.” – Plutarch

or even:

“No kibble today, thanks. I’m feeling a bit under the weather.” – Fido

For thousands upon thousands of years (during most of which overweight, let alone obese, people were fairly rare), therapeutic fasting was a common protocol for the healing of many a malady. From famous sages like Plato, Aristotle, and the aforementioned Hippocrates and Plutarch to cancer patients unable to eat during chemotherapy to pet dogs and cats who suddenly lose once-voracious appetites upon falling ill, it seems like the natural response to – and perhaps therapy for – major illness is to stop eating for a while.

Now, “natural” is not always good. “Is” does not necessarily imply “ought.” But I think the persistence of this phenomenon throughout nature demands that we look a little more closely into whether or not there’s something to it. From babies putting items they found on the ground into their mouths to introduce novel bacteria to their bodies, to weight lifters craving meat after a hard workout to introduce protein to their hungry muscles, to pregnant women experiencing strong food aversions to minimize the chance of introducing a toxin or poison to the growing fetus, I’m generally of the opinion that there’s usually a physiological explanation for most of our odd cravings and behaviors. I see no reason why a sudden lack of appetite wouldn’t have a similar explanation – especially one that transcends species. What if skipping meals for a day or two kickstarted internal healing in some way? Is that really so outlandish? You already know where I stand on the importance of lessons learned from watching our animal companions, and I think this time is no different.

Luckily for us, we aren’t just flailing around and making guesses. Modern science has deigned research into the phenomenon, particularly regarding cancer, worth pursuing. According to Valter Longo, a cancer researcher from USC, “normal cells” go into survival mode during starvation. They display “extreme resistance to stresses” until the “lean period” ends, much like an animal in hibernation mode. Cancer cells, on the other hand, are always “on.” Their “goal” is to grow and reproduce and consume resources. For cancer cells, there is no novel survival mode to switch on. If this is the case, fasting should both improve our resistance to cancer and our body’s ability to survive it (and the treatments used against it, like chemotherapy).

Though human trials are scant (you can’t exactly inject people with cancer cells and then try out different therapeutic protocols, the animal research is intriguing. Let’s take a look into the literature, shall we?

Animal Trial

In one of the earliest studies, forty-eight rats were split up into two groups of twenty-four. One group ate ad libitum for a week, while the other group underwent alternate day fasting. After one week of the various dietary protocols, both groups were injected with breast cancer. At nine days post-injection, 16 of 24 fasted rats remained alive, while just five of 24 ad-libitum fed rats lived. At ten days post-injection, only three of the 24 ad libitum-fed rats survived; 12 of the 24 fasted rats remained alive. Pretty large disparity, right?

That was in 1988. It wasn’t until the late 90s that more promising research was undertaken. That’s when Longo began studying in earnest the phenomenon of increased cellular resistance to oxidative stress during fasting. Figuring that since chemotherapy exerts its effects on cancer by inducing oxidative stress (to all cells, not just cancerous ones), and fasting triggers survival mode in normal cells but not cancer cells, he conducted a study on mice to determine whether fasting protected the healthy, normal cells from chemotherapy’s side effects while leaving the cancer cells sensitive to the treatment. Tumor-ridden mice were either fasted or fed normally 48 hours prior to a large dose of chemotherapy. Half of the normally-fed mice died from chemotherapy toxicity, while all of the fasted mice survived (PDF). Furthermore, fasting did not improve the survival rate of cancerous cells, meaning it only protected normal, healthy cells.

Research has continued. Longo found that “starvation-dependent stress” protects normal cells, but not cancer cells, against the effects of chemotherapy. Even a “modified” alternate day fasting regimen, in which mice were given 15% of their normal calories on “fasting” days, reduced proliferation rates of tumor cells. This “85%” fasting regimen was even more effective than the full 100%. And most recently, Longo et al found that fasting both retarded the growth of tumors while sensitizing cancer cells to the effects of chemotherapy – across a wide range of tumor types. Most importantly, they concluded that fasting could “potentially replace or augment” certain existing chemotherapy regimens! That’s not some crazy fad diet guru spouting off about ancient traditional wisdom, folks. That’s a cancer researcher.

Human Trial(s)

There has been just one of which I’m aware: a 2009 case study that delivered promising results. Ten cancer patients – four with breast cancer, two with prostate cancer, one each with ovarian, lung, uterine, and esophageal cancers – underwent fasting prior to and after chemotherapy treatment. Fasting times ranged from 48-140 hours prior to and 5-56 hours after; all were affective at reducing side effects of chemotherapy.

In the first case, a 51-year old woman with breast cancer did her first round of chemotherapy in a fasted state of 140 hours. Other than dry mouth, fatigue, and hiccups, she felt well enough to go to work and resume her normal daily activities. For the subsequent two rounds, she did not fast and instead ate her normal diet, and the side effects were extremely pronounced – severe fatigue, diarrhea, weakness, abdominal pain, nausea – and prevented her from returning to work. For her fourth round of chemotherapy, she fasted, and the side effects were again minimized. And it wasn’t just the subjective effects that improved with fasting, but also her physiological markers. Total white blood cell, absolute neutrophil counts, and platelet counts were all highest after the fasting regimens.

More human trials are underway, however. Hopefully we’ll eventually know whether the loss of appetite commonly reported during chemotherapy treatment is a bug or actually a built-in feature (I’m leaning toward the latter, personally).

Other Possible Protective Mechanisms of Prevention

Improved insulin sensitivity. As I showed in last week’s post on fasting and weight loss, intermittent fasting improves insulin sensitivity and reduces insulin resistance. Insulin resistance has been linked to several cancers, including prostate, breast, and pancreatic. Metabolic syndrome, which fasting seems to help prevent and reduce, is linked to cancer in general.

Autophagy. While autophagy – the process by which cells “clean up” cellular “garbage” – has a complex relationship with cancer, it’s generally a positive process that protects cells from excessive oxidative stress. Fasting has been shown to induce “profound” neuronal autophagy, as well as general autophagy.

Fasting versus caloric restriction.

It’s true that caloric restriction appears to offer anti-cancer benefits, but there are a couple ways in which fasting might be superior:

1. Fasting (acute bouts of caloric restriction) is easier than CR (chronic caloric restriction) for most people. As I mentioned in last week’s post, fasting – for some – is just an easier, more natural, more effortless way to reduce your calorie intake. That can pay huge dividends when it comes to weight loss, and it appears likely that it will help with cancer, too. If fasting is easier than constantly counting your calories, fasting is going to work better.

2. Fasting is more effective in a shorter amount of time. Whereas studies on caloric restriction and cancer employ weeks- and months-long CR regimens, studies on fasting and cancer employ hours- and days-long fasting regimens. In most cases, fasting just seems to require far less time to be effective.

It’s an exciting time for fasting and cancer research. While it’s still viewed in most circles as an “alternative” modality, fasting is now being seriously considered as a possible treatment (both adjunct and even primary) for various cancers, including breast and prostate. I can’t wait to see what comes out in the coming years.

Of course, my own feeling is that fasting is both easier and more effective if you have made the transition to a Primal Blueprint way of eating. In other words, when you have up-regulated those fat-burning systems and down-regulated the reliance on glucose, many of the other issues that can make fasting less appealing to “sugar-burners” tend to go away: cortisol levels out, muscle protein is spared, hunger subsides naturally and energy is steady.

What does this mean for you – the person who either has cancer and wants to get rid of it or who doesn’t have cancer and wants to stay that way? Researchers like Valter Longo can’t officially recommend it to cancer patients, but it seems well-tolerated and basically safe. If you or anyone you know has cancer, suggest fasting as a possible strategy. As long as a person keeps their oncologist apprised of the situation and any relevant research on the subject, it might prove helpful. And if you’re currently cancer-free, consider implementing occasional (intermittent) fasts, just to be safe. I know research like the stuff I’ve just outlined has convinced me that it’s definitely worth a shot, and there’s little if any downside.

For those of you readers who currently practice fasting, do the potential cancer benefits motivate and drive you? If you aren’t currently fasting, does this evidence make you want to? Thanks for reading!

Here’s the entire series for easy reference:

Why Fast? Part One – Weight Loss

Why Fast? Part Two – Cancer

Why Fast? Part Three – Longevity

Why Fast? Part Four – Brain Health

Why Fast? Part Five – Exercise

Why Fast? Part Six – Choosing a Method

Why Fast? Part Seven – Q&A

Dear Mark: Women and Intermittent Fasting

You want comments? We got comments:

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  1. I definitely do not eat if I have a fever.

    liberty1776 wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I mostly have lots of soup when I have a cold (“Jewish penicillin” although not just chicken.) I haven’t had the flu since starting primal two years ago but probably would fast if I did.

      Harry Mossman wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I am definately trying it next time I get sick.

      Kevin wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Right on, Mark. Fasting right now. Appreciate the “Fido” quote – the first thing a pup does when it’s sick is to stop eating. Another example of animal instincts trumping human “intelligence.”

      Abel James wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Don’t mock human intelligence for it was this very intelligence that found out about this correlation.

        Martin wrote on July 29th, 2012
    • i have the rarest of the neuroendocrine cancers, one of which killed steve jobs; 12 years ago i was told by the some of the leading experts that if i did not do chemo immediately i had 1 month to 1 year to live. my inner animal/muse/soul told me that poisoning my body was insane, so i did watchful waiting until my tumors were forcing rapid descents in blood sugar i do not have an insulinoma; i am a somatostatinoma, but my tumors behave as the former oma does; when my bs was at 35 despite eating every 12 hour i had a whipple and liver resection; one of the aforementioned experts sent a letter to my magnificent & brilliant neurosurgeon telling him ‘you will kill miss mason’ hah!

      i now control the fatal hypoglycemic plunges by doing a 24 hr water fast

      however, years ago i used to do 3 day fasts & always felt reborn

      i am now expanding my weekly fasts to 3 days and am in touch w dr. longo

      i will have offered my cat scans, labs, slides, etc to dr longo but any legitimate researcher who wants them is welcome to them

      jeanette mason

      jeanette mason wrote on May 3rd, 2013
      • Would love a copy of your results and details


        Mason wrote on May 31st, 2014
      • Is there any chance that your ‘3 day water fasts’ caused or contributed to the illness you developed?

        Eric wrote on June 23rd, 2015
    • I fast and it does wonders for my acne and well being. I fast with honey and pollen as my only energy sources. I drink lots of wáter.

      Luz wrote on August 7th, 2013
  2. Very interesting read, Mark. I have also noticed that periodic fasting seems to have some psychological benefits. Specifically, I feel more focused during fasted days. Are there any supplements that you would recommend taking during a 24hr fast?

    Casey wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I always drink (organic, grass-fed) gelatin powder in water as it has enough protein to protect muscles and is great for healing the gut, especially when you aren’t eating. I also take probiotics because they are more effective on an empty stomach, and magnesium before sleeping.

      Katie @ Wellness Mama wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • That really depends on your goals during the fast. Green tea contains the compound EGCG, and drinking it during the fast is a great way to end the lives of stubborn fat cells. In addition to autophagy, which will promote unused and mature fat cells to die, drinking green tea during the fast, will cause fat cell apoptosis. Coupled with the fat-buring effects of fasting and the autophagy induced, you will virtually become a slaughterhouse for unwanted fat cells. You could also supplement with the extract of green tea.

      I promise I’m not a tea fanatic, but I also prefer to drink Yerba Mate during the fast. I already find the mentally stimulating and calming effects a fasting a huge motivator for fasting. I attribute this to neuronal autophagy, and increased catecholemine levels. But, drinking yerba mate adds another dimension to the stimulating effects of the fast. Don’t use sweetners of course. Also, try drinking coffee and see which one you prefer. Both increase catecholemine levels. Coffee is more intense though.

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • I have been doing IF for several years now. Unfortunately when I drink Green Tea or Yerba Mate during a fast I will end up throwing it back up within 30 minutes. I never have any issues with coffee.

        pdxjsw wrote on March 20th, 2012
        • Wow– I drink a gallon of Green tea and have no nausea at all. Coffe is fine too and ice water.

          I usully begin my fast after a large cup of coffee with a little half and half–at 5am, then my next meal when I am IFing is the next morning– 4 eggs and coffee.

          I do this once or twice a week and I love it.

          Pastor Dave wrote on March 28th, 2012
      • Neuronal autophagy confirmed…nice call!

        Doug wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • I have the same issue, I get nausea right away. Coffee is fine though.

        Maria wrote on March 21st, 2012
      • hi, Mathew,

        thanks for the information on green tea & yerba mate

        i have heard some anecdotes of weight loss using green tea from a friend & her friend.

        i usually fast 16 hours everyday by skipping breakfast. occasionally longer (18 – 24 hr). my brain rather enjoys the clarify.


        pam wrote on March 23rd, 2012
    • I find that I’m more focused as well. I was surprised to notice this change, which is welcome because there are plenty of times when I can’t seem to focus at all.

      Alessandra wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • +1 on the psychological benefits including increased focus, although I noticed the opposite before switching to a primal diet.

      Joe wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I just got Yogi Tea, “Healthy Fasting” blend to use with an upcoming fast. It was recommended to me. It says it has Red Clover, Burdock, and Dandelion for liver detox. Usually I just do water whenever I feel thirst.

      The other thing is the duration of the fast. Lengthy fasts should be supervised since electrolytes and minerals could be exhausted. Something short (I do 3 day fasts) could incorporate some juicing (for the nutrients).

      Another thing I’ve read (over at LeanGains) that if the goal of the fast is to burn fat, coffee (organic and not decaf, again diluted) to keep the metabolism from going into starvation mode.

      So I guess the original question, which supplements, depends on the goal of your fast.

      RobG wrote on March 21st, 2012
  3. The benefits just continue don’t they? I have an 86 year old uncle who had prostate cancer. He fasted before and after his chemotherapy, not because he knew anything about it but just because he didn’t feel like having anything other than water. He took the bus back and forth to the hospital before and after his sessions and said they didn’t really bother him that much. It amazed me when I heard that, but possibly the fasting part was why.

    Joanna wrote on March 20th, 2012
  4. I feel better when I incorporate fasting. That’s enough evidence to keep me going.

    Grokitmus Primal wrote on March 20th, 2012
  5. Ok, ok. I don’t like the idea of fasting but I will start doing it. (Blood sugar still a bit to high and a family history of cancer.)

    Harry Mossman wrote on March 20th, 2012
  6. This does make me want to fast, but every time I try, I end up super-cranky and super-hungry. It seems like frequent small meals works well for me, as anti-Primal as that sounds. Maybe I need to eat more overall so the fasts mean something. I’m not sure — if anyone has a thought on that, I’m all ears!

    Deanna wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • It took a while before I could fast without these issues. Headaches, shakes, crankiness…I know what you speak of. After about 8 months of eating primal, though, I started being able to skip meals without issue.

      Recently I’ve started skipping breakfast. I drink some coffee with cream, and that’s “breakfast”. Though I get a bit of a gnawing hunger, it’s nothing I can’t subdue with a few sips of coffee. I’m ready to eat by lunchtime, and by then I’ve usually held off eating for approximately 16 hours.

      Like Mark mentions, this is way easier for me than caloric restriction. But I would not have been able to do it if I hadn’t been primal for a while. Attempts to try this in my high-fiber, low-fat days always met with failure.

      Steph wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • it also took us months to be able to fast for > 12 hours.

        i also have black tea + 1 TB heavy cream for breakfast.


        pam wrote on March 23rd, 2012
    • Try eating a fairly protein-heavy meal a few hours before bed. I prefer to eat eggs because the protein digests slowly. In the morning most people have a naturally blunted appetite, so this is going to be the best time to fast. You will be fasting through the night so when you wake up you will have been fasting ten hours. Try to go a few hours and then break the fast when you feel like you need to. Try to push it out a little more each day, or every other day if you prefer. Try to stick to the same fasting periods if you plan to do it frequently as the hunger-regulating hormone, grehlin, will tends to spike around our habitual meal-times.

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • That’s what seems to work best for me. At night or pretty late in the afternoon, I try to load up on 1 lb. of grass fed beef or pork or fish, 8-12 pastured eggs, etc. When IF’ing, if I eat the last meal in the afternoon, I typically will eat again sometime around noon (10-2) the next day. But, if I eat pretty late, I may go until mid or late afternoon the following day. A 16 hour window is about average. However, sometimes I may eat late and then I may eat early the next day (a shortened window). Or I may eat early and then wait until late the next day (a lengthened window). Or I may graze throughout the day (eat without worrying about any windows). I kinda like mixing it up the best rather than sticking to a set routine.

        TJ wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I used to get like this, but I found that after I started doing few workouts on ’empty'(i.e. training first thing in the morning and also after work when my blood sugar is normally at its lowest, but not every day of course) I stopped getting cranky and having dizzy spells when I was fasting.

      Ricko wrote on March 21st, 2012
    • An “accidental” 24 hour fast last week left me gnawingly hungry, shaky, confused, cranky, and nearly incoherent. But I’ve only been paleo for a month now, so maybe I can work up to it over time.

      IF of the “early dinner, skip breakfast, late lunch” variety works great for me already – I don’t notice any hunger at all and feel great doing it. It’s also clearly helping me a lot with weight loss.

      Merryish wrote on March 21st, 2012
      • If you get shaky, have a bit of bragg apple cider vinegar with some raw honey and water.

        Shawn wrote on March 21st, 2012
    • Sounds like you’re still carb addicted & possibly not eating enough good fats, that response is typical of a sugar and glucose metabolism & low blood sugar.

      If you’re properly in ketosis & fat burning mode your body, in response to a lack of food from fasting, will just start burning your stored body fat and will just continue making ketone bodies for energy which, if you are in ketosis, it has already been doing. There is a break in period, known in the Atkins & Medifast circles as the Induction Phase, I call it CARB WITHDRAWAL, where it can take several days to a week or more to completely condition & get your body accustomed and ‘acclimated’ to running on fats instead of glucose from carbs.

      Try increasing the amount of fat in your daily diet all the time, not just before attempting a fast, decrease your carb intake, don’t eat ANY carbs for dinner the night or even the entire day before starting a fast, then in the morning your body will already be in fat burning mode and then just don’t eat.

      Keep trying, don’t give up, you’ll get it, your body naturally WANTS to burn fats, that’s what it does while you’re fasting, it’s the carbs that are UNnatural in the human diet.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 22nd, 2012
    • Little meals here and there do work, and I agree it can be hard to fast. Your brain is fighting you every step of the way and demands food making you cranky.

      Travis wrote on July 11th, 2013
    • Also, try eating once a day. Only hi quality food; half of it raw, etc.

      Christian wrote on February 13th, 2014
  7. Since going primal I lost 50lbs and stalled, since incorperating 2 24-36 hour fast twice a week and a 48-60 hour fast once a month in 2 months I lost another 20lb and haven’t ever felt better than I do now. Also doing heavy lifting while fasting is great and actually improves my numbers. Fasting for weight loss is a great tool, everything else is just a bonus :)

    Primal Newfie wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Sweet! I too dropped 45 in four months, from 286 to 240, but have been dragging along this plateau for a few months now. I think I let all the complements people have been givivng me go to my head and falling back on the 80-20excuse. I am still 30 lbs away from my goal. I just started p90x and will start a fast tomorrow. Thanks for sharing and reigniting my motivation!

      Fatandtired wrote on March 20th, 2012
  8. After reading some material on Martin Berkhan’s Leangains site, I’ve implemented his version of IF: restricting eating to an 8-hour window. This lead me to discover that I need more protein at each meal to forestall hunger. Finally, I’m in the process of cutting down to just two, high-calorie meals/day, further reducing the time I expose my body to insulin (which I seem to overproduce in response to food).

    It’s impossible to say whether this will prevent cancer, especially since I don’t have a family history of it. My main objective is to have a more comfortable time maintaining my weight loss (40 lbs). But if I develop cancer, I will try the “15% solution.”

    jake3_14 wrote on March 20th, 2012
  9. I practice intermittent fasting right now as part of my weight loss regime. It’s worked very well for me, I try to do at least two 24/hr fasts a week and I’ve found them very easy to stick to.

    Cancer benefits seem like icing on the cake to me.

    Kevin wrote on March 20th, 2012
  10. I agree. I’ve been Paleo for 2 months as of March 18th, and begin IFing shortly there after. I try and do 1-2 24 hour fast a week, but that doesn’t always happen. I eat only when I’m hungry and so sometimes I end up fasting for 12-18 hours, unplanned. I love not having to think about constantly eating to keep my metabolism “revved” up. It was the best day of my life when I threw that idea out the window! Life is so much more enjoyable now. In the last month, I’ve noticed a significant decrease in my body fat percentage, my clothes are fitting better and I’m PRing in most things! All this while not even counting a single calorie. It’s awesome!

    Linds @ Linds Eat wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I feel exactly the same. I struggled so much trying to eat so often during the day – just remembering to prep food all the time, trying to have 3-4 small meals on hand during my work day, trying to find time between meetings to eat it all – ugh! I felt like I was miserably choking down food constantly and it did me no good whatsoever.

      I’m so much happier now not having to worry about it – if I don’t have time to make food for lunch at work, so what? I skip it and feel find till dinner. Just this single change probably cuts my cortisol production by a quarter every day. :)

      Merryish wrote on March 21st, 2012
  11. Although I’ve not researched it intensively, I’ve studied some level of similiarity regarding cellular resistance toward oxidative stress when fasting as you discuss, or supplementing with resveratrol. I can see how the research you cite can show benefits of fasting. If there’s a lot out there about resveratrol as well, I could see how both could be extremely useful in many ways.
    Thanks for another great article, Mark

    Dr. Mike Tremba wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Re resveratrol – it was just recently inthe news that one of the lead researchers into this faked a lot of his data. You may want to look a little more closely before you leap.

      john wrote on March 20th, 2012
  12. This topic of fasting is extremely interesting. I have done some 8 to 10 hour fast in recent months and am planning to do a 5 day fast to facilitate my weight loss. I am in need of some advice on what vitamins are necessary to take during an extended fast. If anyone could chime in on this I would appreciate it. Thanks

    Conrad O'Keefe wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • You might want to consider limiting your fast to two or three days, then eating a big meal, then resuming your fast. I say this because leptin will drop off sharply, usually around 3 days without eating. Your metabolism will slow down and you might start to experience symptoms of anhedonia. You should have a doctor supervise you if plan to be fasting past three days.

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
  13. I’ve been trying out some IF lately and am wondering if my GreensPlus in the morning will negate the effects? There is no sugar or macronutrient content, although it is sweetened with stevia.

    Also, would coffee throw a fast off? What about that tablespoon of coffee cream?

    Just trying to figure out where to draw the line on these things coffee makes fasting so much easier :)

    Rachel wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • If it has negligible calories then it won’t throw off the fast.

      Coffee is great during a fast because it will increase levels of epinephrine and norepiphrene, causing you to feel mentally sharp and calm, as well as increasing your metabolic rate. These hormones are also responsible for burning fat. Can you believe I almost left out that fun fact?

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Do not use ANY processed grocery store powered or liquid coffee creamers, use full whipping dream or butter as per Dave Asprey’s bulletproofexec butter coffee recipe.

      For protection from cancer induced by toxic foods you absolutely MUST read the ingredients list on EVERY food you buy, particularly any industrial processed “foods” you may still be using or eating, and THE SINGLE most overlooked product people use on a daily basis is coffee creamers, this stuff is killing huge numbers of Americans & other people around the world.

      Most coffee creamers are adulterated with partially hydrogenated trans fat soy, corn, coconut, palm or other industrially processed vegetable oils which are a direct cause of cellular hypoxia & oxidative stress by blocking oxygen & nutrient flow into & out through the crucially important bi-lipid cell membrane.

      The ONLY liquid coffee creamer I’ve found that does not contain the toxic partially hydrogenated trans fat oils is Nestle’s Coffee Mate that’s packaged in the little restaurant style cups with the tear off foil lid. This one is made with non adulterated coconut oil and so does not require refrigeration since coconut oil is such a stable saturated fat molecule, even pure raw organic coconut oil can be left at room temp for up to 2 years before going bad, it’s very stable which just one of about 12 reasons coconut oil is so good for the body.

      To be fair, now that I check their website I see Nestle is offering a new product with ingredients listed as NONFAT MILK, HEAVY CREAM, SUGAR, NATURAL FLAVOR CONTAINS MILK.

      Meh, since pretty much all commercially processed milk is toxic I’ll just stick with Dave Asprey’s bulleproof butter coffee.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Unfortunately, if you check out the shop ethical website, Nestle has a boycott call on all of their products. they employ irrisponsible marketing methods, promote bottled water (you have to have 6000 glasses of tap water to reach the same cost of 1 bottle of bottled water, also, the plastic is not recycled efficiently)Nestle also is responsible for using child labourers, denying workers rights, ties to violence, poor wages for coffee farmers and their also irresponsible users of palm oil. They have been targeted by greenpeace for supporting palm oil production and deforestation in Oraungutan habitats. I believe that now we are primal and healthy for ourselves, we have a responsibility to pass on that health through our chices to support a more sustainable Earth and future. Otherwise, we are being pretty selfish in our new found health and wellness. Support the Earth which supports us.

        yasmin wrote on March 20th, 2012
        • Thanks for that, just another reason to stick with the butter coffee.

          cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
  14. I just wrote today on my blog about meeting someone with cancer at Paleo FX and what sorts of thoughts about this lifestyle it prompted in me. I certainly hope for his sake, and all of our sakes, that some of this stuff we’re ardently advocating works.

    Karen P. wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Cancerous cells convert to fermentation for their energy from the normal “respiration” or using O2 to burn glucose of a healthy cell. A fermenting cell requires up to 20X the glucose as a normal respirating cell. Therefore, low carb eating and IFing is the natural enemy of cancer cells as you are literally starving them and/or preventing their formation in the first place. Another factor is the body’s PH which high carb diet turns acidic which is the environment cancer “grows” in.

      Tactical111 wrote on October 25th, 2013
  15. When I had severe pneumonia earlier this year, the first thing to go was my appetite. There I sat in front of Christmas dinner, and I couldn’t eat it.

    Did my very first fast last Friday. Planning another one this Friday.

    Cin wrote on March 20th, 2012
  16. That last quote should have been credited to Buddha…but that would have confused some

    Ham-bone wrote on March 20th, 2012
  17. I’ve just started trying to get back into a fasting routine and this post really lit a fire under my rear! In my family, I’ve got my dad who had lymphoma, grandparents with a brain tumor and breast cancer and aunts who have had breast and uterine cancer. I originally started fasting to break my current plateau but now I have a whole new motivation. Cancer is the #1 disease I feel like I have to fend off and it’s nice to have a weapon to do it with.

    Melissa S. wrote on March 20th, 2012
  18. Thank you for posting a very timely article for me! My husband is undergoing treatment for multiple myeloma and has experienced loss of appetite as a result. At yesterday’s appointment, he was told he lost too much weight and needs to maintain body fat in preparation for the stem cell transplant in May. (The nurse actually recommended daily hot fudge sundaes–AAAAGH!!)

    My question is… When he was first diagnosed I researched fasting. I remember coming across an article that said it was very effective for certain types of cancer, but not helpful (maybe harmful?) for blood cancers such as multiple myeloma. Did you come across any research to this effect?

    BTW…At the start of treatment we bought a container of Primal Fuel and it has been one of the few foods he can tolerate when he’s feeling his worst. Thank you for the blog and all that you do!!!


    Elyse wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Thank you for mentioning about how blood cancers may react differently. My mother also has multiple myeloma and is about to start the stem cell transplant. I wanted to research this a little more to see if it is something that can benefit her. She also has very little appetite, but from what she says it seems it is because the taste of food is different. Good luck to you and your husband.

      (also, can I second your “AAAGH!!” at the food they say she should eat which includes “bread, sodas and pastries” and the do not eat list included so many good vegetables, it just makes. me. sick.)

      Stephanie wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • FYI- my mother(66yrs) was diagnosed last year, did the chemo rounds 4 mos, with no side affects, and had stem cell transplant in November last year- never seen her so sick those first few weeks after, but can’t believe how quickly she bounced back! She is doing great and we are so fortunate to live in the present day, medicinally speaking. I wish your husband all the strength in the world as he goes through his “new birthday” (you’ll see). And I might add that you need to make sure you are taking care of yourself while he’s in the hospital, go home and rest, keep exercising and getting some sunshine. Resist the urge to “suffer with him”. He will be doing enough for both of you those first couple weeks, so you have to live healthy for the both of you during this time to offset.. Positive love and affirmations to you and Stephanie.

      Fatandtired wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • pam wrote on March 23rd, 2012
  19. I do a bi-weekly (or every 2 weeks) 24 hour fast. I do this to help clean up metabolic waste, normalize blood sugars, promote healing and to exercise control.

    I didn’t have much success with fasting when I used to drink coffee. I really feel drinking coffee deletes the benefits of a fast. Your adrenal glands don’t get an opportunity to rest.

    I have been caffeine free (coffee, tea and chocolate) for a little over a month. It was a life altering decision. I have the same stable energy all day. I do feel hunger more intensely now than when I drank coffee for a fast, or just in general, but I use this to practice control over not spending my days strung together with food and drinks.

    I try to enjoy the day and live it instead of relieving constant boredom and a mind-numbing job with spikes to serotonin levles.

    Fasting has been a great tool for me.

    Angela wrote on March 20th, 2012
  20. I am overdue for this myself. I have done some on and off since reading the Bragg book, Miracle of Fasting, a while back. I lost about 40 or so pounds and have kept it off for 2+ years. I have to agree that fasting is easier than eating less. I did a longer juice fast once and while it wasn’t to bad, I think the juice may have made it a little more difficult.

    Shawn wrote on March 20th, 2012
  21. I’m starting to get into fasting everyday from 8PM-4PM the next day. It seems to work very feel for me when I get accustomed to it. Unfortunately when I fall off the wagon and eat in the morning, subsequent days are harder to fast successfully.

    Julian wrote on March 20th, 2012
  22. I have fasted for a day here and there and always find my energy increases when I fast. I have even done some extreme exercising while fasting, and think I even have more energy for then. I am thinking about adding fasting to my routine, but am trying to figure out the right mix for myself. In any regard, my limited experiences have been very positive.

    Nick Casteel wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • If you want to fast every day, you can experiment with confining your eating window from anywhere between 8 and 4 hours. You could even do one meal a day if you can eat enough in one sitting.

      Also, eating at night and fasting in the morning generally feels better for most people. This is due to naturally elevated cortisol levels in the mornings. If you fast at night, cortisol may be elevated, and you may find it hard to relax and sleep.

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • That explains a lot. I’ve been fasting from last meal on Sunday until Tuesday morning which is around 36 hours. Monday night I can’t sleep at all, even with magnesium and melatonin. I don’t want to give up the whole 36 hours but is there anyway to sleep?

        Susan b wrote on March 21st, 2012
  23. There are lots stress resistance effects of ketogenic diets as well. Can we try to tease out some mechanisms? I suspect it has something to do with alternative “fuels,” protecting mitochondria and maintaining stable energy production.

    john wrote on March 20th, 2012
  24. This is blowing my mind-grapes. It could help explain so many things, from why severe bouts of stress and depression can kill appetite (so your cells can deal with the stress hormones), to why so many cultures have “purifying” fasts before times of physical or emotional trial (again, so your cells can deal with stress hormones and damage better), to the old wives adage, “Feed a fever, starve a cold.”

    cTo wrote on March 20th, 2012
  25. I have a stage IV cancer that has a 5-year survival rate of 5%. I have been the living primal lifestyle except for I do not have energy enough to exercise properly(this could be due to the one drug I am taking – an anti-estrogen medication since my cancer is sensitive to estrogen). Oncology doctors never talk diet it seems. When I ask them, all they say is, “balanced diet with some protein – would you like to see the dietitian?” During Chemo I saw the dietitian, spews the same old CW.

    I was aware of the rodent studies on fasting when I went through Chemo (Chemo is an absolutely horrible experience, at least mine was). I asked my Dr. whether he knew anything about fasting before doing chemo. Of course not, but it was okay to fast the day of chemo if I wanted, but not more. So, I didn’t.

    Just a week or so ago, Dr. Su (Carbohydrates Can Kill) had a cancer researcher on his podcast that experiments with low-carb diets to treat cancer – Dr. Seyfried. If I’m remembering correctly, he said it only works if calorie restricted enough to get your blood sugar down to 55mg/dk to 65mg/dk. That was very disheartening to hear. It’s hard for me to keep them under 100. So maybe my efforts to control my blood sugar haven’t been saving me.

    I also read things about autophagy, so I figured it would help to fast. I’ve been doing 18 hour fasts everyday.

    My main cancer Dr. prefers to treat based on symptoms, rather then taking multitudes of CT scans like my chemo drs. like to do. This is to my liking as I have been avoiding scans in hopes it would help me heal by avoiding the dyes and the radiation they involve. The cancer I have has no good tumor markers for blood testing either. I can’t say that my cancer has not returned as I just don’t know at this point. But I’m coming up on 2 years and I’m still here. I’ve yet to find anyone else doing paleo or primal who has cancer – am I the only one?

    Johannah wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Johannah as someone who has finished chemo for stage IV hodgkins lymphoma 4 months ago, I think I know how you feel. I wanted to improve my diet while on chemo to combat the lethargy (although it was pretty healthy according to CW). I like you was spewed out the saw CW by the dietatian. Having stumbled across marksdailyapple I experimented and found it helped me alot. I have now been primal for 4 1/2 months and have recovered from the side effects chemo pretty quick suprising my doctors and myself.

      Suhail wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Johannah as someone who has finished chemo for stage IV hodgkins lymphoma 4 months ago, I think I know how you feel. I wanted to improve my diet while on chemo to combat the lethargy (although it was pretty healthy according to CW). I like you was spewed out the saw CW by the dietatian. Having stumbled across marksdailyapple I experimented and found it helped me alot. I have now been primal for 4 1/2 months and have recovered from the side effects chemo pretty quick suprising my doctors and myself.

      Hope you all the best.

      Suhail wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Suhail,
        Thank you. I recovered from chemo well too. They tell me now that except for having cancer, according to my bloodwork I’m pretty healthy which does seem to surprise them. Wishing you great success for the future.

        Johannah wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Johannah check out the website ! Chris follows the paleo diet and he also has a lot of information about holistic treatments for cancer. Send him an email and he is happy to give advice about what worked for him and other success stories.

      Kate wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Here’s a link for that site:

        cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
        • Kate and Cancerclasses,
          Thanks for the website info.

          Johannah wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • I have been working on healing my whole body and changing my internal terrain to ward off a breast cancer diagnosis. (I’m 31 years old.) I have not had any conventional treatments other than a biopsy. Part of this decision is due to the fact I was 11 weeks pregnant when diagnosed… now 35 weeks. I was eating primal before the diagnosis, but right after, I was concerned about my level of meat consumption as most alternative cancer diets say to cut out all meat products. (Not sure I agree on that one.) My body craves meat and I pretty much felt awful. I spent the first few weeks doing a lot of fasting, mostly due to emotional stress. I have been eating only veggies, nuts and meat for the last five months plus Cottage cheese and Flax oil…. part of the Budwig protocol. I had been eating fruit too, but cut that out as well. Cancer cells have way more sugar receptors than normal cells. The tumor is estrogen/progesterone positive and that has been challenging since during pregnancy, those levels skyrocket. Anyway, you are not alone. is a great blog of a young woman who beat her cancer using diet as a main part of her protocol. Best wishes to you! P.S. I feel better physically than I have ever felt in my life. I know nutrition has a lot to do with that… I know prayer has helped too! :)

      Harobe wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Harobe,
        Thanks and I’ll check out the website. Wishing you a healthy delivery, happy baby and a wonderful future!

        Johannah wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • The secret to maintaining energy and immune system strength when dealing with cancer is FATS & PROTEIN. If you cut out the carbs that simply feed cancer the sugars it needs for energy to grow, all you’re left with is fats & proteins anyway. The only other option is a total food fast, so combining the two can be very effective.

      If you want to know more about cancer than 95% of the doctors & oncologists who have never even heard of or been taught about Otto Warburg & his Nobel Prize in 1931 for the discovery of the prime cause of cancer go here:

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • You’re right about the paleo diet being naturally highly protective from cancer, and that’s so for several reasons:

      1. Cancer is easier to cause than to prevent. All you gotta do is eat a Standard American industrially processed ‘food’ high carb & trans fat loaded diet. The problem is that the latency period for the development of cancers is measured in decades. It’s so gradual that by the time people are diagnosed with cancer they DON’T associate it’s development with what they’ve been eating for the last several decades, so the best time to get off that SAD & processed ‘food’ diet is 20 to 30 years ago.

      2. Cancer is easier to prevent than to ‘cure’ and a fresh & natural whole food paleo or low carb diet, or even a Pritikin, Ornish, Gerson, Atkins, Hoxey, vegan, vegetarian, green smoothie or almost any other nutty diet theory works by first getting you off the toxic industrially processed foods & toxic adulterated vegetable oils that directly cause cancer and replaces those ‘foods’ with real high quality nutrients that deeply feed and nourish every cell and, more importantly, every cell membrane in your body.

      3. The main cancer protective component of a paleo or primal diet is the high quality natural fats, and also the proteins and amino acids & oxygen carrying heme iron in them. Think about it, every cell, cell membrane, major organ, hormone, enzyme & bone in the human body is made from fats and proteins in varying quantities, they are the 2 main raw materials the body needs for cellular repair & rebuilding.

      I would, however, seriously caution anyone fighting a stage IV cancer to avoid *strenuous* exercise so as to not further deplete your energy and immune system. It’s got a big fight on it’s hands and is already working plenty hard, trust me. You need to save as much energy as possible for your immune system so it will be as strong as possible to fight off the cancer.

      Remember that the only reason any of us get sick and develop various diseases and illness in the first place is because our immune systems become depleted and weak and can’t resist and fight off the invaders anymore and at some point are overwhelmed. That energy and immune system depletion is usually caused by what we’re eating rather than from exposure to toxins or something outside of us. The lack of appetite or desire for food during an illness is the body’s natural energy conservation strategy, at those times it doesn’t want to devote energy to digestion of foods and instead wants to direct as much energy as possible to increasing it’s immune system strength so we survive the illness.

      If you like getting out in the fresh air to enjoy nature you can take gentle walks, but since only you can feel what your body is doing and what it needs let it be your guide as to your level of activity and physical output. Also wouldn’t hurt to consult with your care providers since you didn’t mention talking to them about exercising while fighting cancer.

      Good luck, much love, and may all the gods bless you and all yours during this time.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 22nd, 2012
  26. I love the appeal to ancient wisdom in the introduction. There is so much our ancestors knew and spoke about, and we take so much of it for granted.

    My fiancee often feels like skipping meals, and she never feels like eating breakfast. In fact the other night she asked me, “I know it’s dinner-time and I need to eat something, but I just don’t feel like eating. Is that bad?” Being a practicing IF’er myself I told her that it is GOOD for her not to eat when she doesn’t feel like eating.

    I wonder how many other people would have thought the world was ending if a loved one skipped dinner.

    Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • There was a time when kids would be sent to bed without dinner for misbehaving or some other offense, but these days parents can get thrown in jail, have their kids taken away by the government and have a REALLY hard time, a permanent record, continued government intrusion & oversight & much expense getting them back for doing that, so if it happens at all anymore I’m sure they’re not talking about it.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • I don’t think punishing a kid with (or without) food is the same as fasting, and can cause food issues in a person. But, if a kid just doesn’t want to eat dinner, that’s a totally different thing.
        I have no problem letting my daughter eat when she wants to eat – even if it isn’t at the same time as us. Sure, I make one meal and she can eat it when she’s hungry. I find she’ll eat a wider variety of foods if she is allowed to wait until she is actually hungry to eat. But, punish her by not letting her have dinner – no, absolutely not. I would also never force her to sit there until she finished her food (like my parents would do when I was growing up).

        Casey wrote on March 20th, 2012
        • Just last night I sent one son to bed without supper for not doing the dishes. It’s not going to kill them. I don’t force them to clean their plates either, but I would make them sit for an hour until they at least taseted the food.

          ima_homer wrote on March 21st, 2012
  27. I am so happy to see this article! I am fasting today and feeling like I am the only one not eating. I fast four times a year at the equinoxes and solstices as well as during religious fasting days such as lent. I do this for health reasons and for building mental, physical and spiritual discipline.

    Plus, how much more paleo can you get? I don’t think Grok was always successful in his hunts and spring time is historically the hungry time of the year.

    John wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • You reminded me of something I wanted to bring up.

      If Grok was unsuccessful during a hunt he probably foraged for his calories. Of course hunting provides ten to a hundred times as many calories as foraging, so getting calories from foraging was probably menial. I imagine this is why 15% of calories had a more protective benefit

      Matthew Caton wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • John – what a lovely way to celebrate the seasons. And it’s the spring equinox tomorrow!

      Not sure I can cope with fasting during a crazy work day, but I’ll join you by fasting in the evening.

      Sian wrote on March 20th, 2012
  28. This evidence strengthens my ability to articulate why it’s beneficial to fast but I was motivated by how good it made me feel even though I don’t need to lose any weight.

    alex wrote on March 20th, 2012
  29. Great information here, Mark. I did a 22 hour fast day before yesterday and was happy that it was so easy. My weight loss had stalled at 42 pounds and I still have another 80 to go. I’ve decided to do alternate day fasting for a couple of weeks and see what happens. The anti-cancer effects have strengthened my resolve. Thank you and sending positive thoughts to those suffering from cancers of any type.

    TruckerLady wrote on March 20th, 2012
  30. I haven’t been doing any 24 hour fasts or anything but I HAVE been skipping more meals lately. Usually breakfast. I just noticed that I haven’t had to go to the grocery store yet this week and I still have plenty of eggs in the fridge. YAY Eating less=a smaller grocery bill this month. Who knew??

    Ashley North wrote on March 20th, 2012
  31. “It’s an exciting time for fasting and cancer research. While it’s still viewed in most circles as an “alternative” modality”

    Did you know the word “alternative” is based on an ancient Greek word that means “Big Pharma can’t make billions of dollars in profit on it”?

    Doug wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Lol

      Alyssa wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Loved this. Lol

      Keith wrote on March 20th, 2012
  32. Intermittent Fasting…

    I’ll get to the IF in a bit, please hang in there with me.

    Here’s my story. Lost 120 pounds on Primal, gym and later crossfit (for last 20lbs of the 120 crossfit gets that honot), I was down to 270 (at the time could still use to lose another 20-30) fitting in my old 36 inch pants (admittedly they were just a tad tighter than I would care for but I could at least put them on and not have them bursting at the seams). But no IF, couldn’t do it. Along comes life, stress and some bad times and BAM! I turn to old comfort food ; you see there is a bakery down the road that makes the best cream doughnuts and they are my addiction (now I avoid them like heroin, as that is how I view them – as a poisonous drug and I don’t really have a choice once I take that first bite). from the end of October until January I put on 50 pounds. Fast forward to March. After much withdrawal and misery, I am once again full Primal and have added IF, almost seamlessly by the way. I am down 20lbs in a little over 30 days. No loss of strength by the way. I have to admit I have come to enjoy the mild challenge. Knowing that food is there but that I choose to abstain. I also like the fact that it has made shedding weight that much easier. If I have learned any humbling lesson it is that the Paleo/Primal way, needs to be considered in its entirety. To leave out one part is to potentially miss out on great benefits. This is of course with the understanding that every part of the Primal blueprint will not necessarily work for everyone. However if not investigated how would we know. I admit I was dummy for dismissing IF the first go around.

    Anon wrote on March 20th, 2012
  33. I just passed this one on to my dad. Thanks, for bring this up, Mark.

    Eric wrote on March 20th, 2012
  34. “do the potential cancer benefits motivate and drive you?”

    After reading that post, it certainly is an additional motivating factor. I fast for spiritual growth and only recently began fasting for the physical benefits. I am VERY careful to keep the two seperate!!

    This is why I am a little more excited about fasting after reading this post, Mark: I’m 48. My mom and dad both died of cancer. My dad when he was only 40. 18 months ago I had colon surgery for severe displaysia. The doc said there is a good chance I wouldn’t have seen my 50th birthday had it not been cought when it was.

    The current “wisdom” seems to be that we don’t need a colonoscopy until we’re 50. Well, current “wisdom” is just playing the odds and that’s playing the odds with YOUR life. One thing I really want to stress to everyone is GET A COLONOSCOPY ASAP!!! Don’t wait until you’re 50!!

    JtC wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • And eat plenty of good staurated animal fats, primarily BUTTER!

      From Wikipedia re butyrate: “Butyrates are important as food for cells lining the mammalian colon (colonocytes). Without butyrates for energy, colon cells undergo autophagy (self digestion) and die.[1] Short-chain fatty acids, which include butyrate, are produced by beneficial colonic bacteria (probiotics) that feed on, or ferment prebiotics, which are plant products that contain adequate amounts of dietary fiber. These short-chain fatty acids benefit the colonocyte by increasing energy production,and cell proliferation and may protect against colon cancer(2).”

      It’s been known for years that people that avoid good fats have the highest rates of colon cancer, now you know why.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
      • Thanks, cc! I’ve been enjoying bacon and bullet-proof coffee ever since I happened upon Mark’s site. Also, I’ve started cooking my steaks with butter.

        JtC wrote on March 20th, 2012
        • Way to go. Low fat kills, lots’a fat = lots of energy & life.

          cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • And from Wikipedia search, Butyric Acid (as found in butter):

      “Cancer And Life Span
      The role of butyrate changes differs between normal and cancerous cells. This is known as the “butyrate paradox”. Butyrate inhibits colonic tumor cells, and promotes healthy colonic epithelial cells;[11] but the signaling mechanism is not well understood.[12] A review suggested the chemopreventive benefits of butyrate depend in part on amount, time of exposure with respect to the tumorigenic process, and the type of fat in the diet.[8]”

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
  35. Would there be a way to implement the cancer-chemo benefit of fasting for a person who is not overweight and maybe on the line for being underweight?

    kerri wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Yeah, do a carb fast, meaning eat lots of good fats & some good animal proteins but nothing made IN an industrial plant, just plants & animals that eat plants.

      cancerclasses wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • Absolutely! Just make sure to eat your maintenance calories (or above) during your eating window. For example, if you maintain bodyweight at 2000 cal/day and you fast for 16 hours every day, just make sure to eat at least 2000 calories during your 8 hour eating window every day. Or, if you want to do alternate day fasts, look at your calorie intake over a week long period. If you only eat every other day (and your maintenance is again say 2000) make sure your calorie intake adds up to 14,000 (or more) over a 7 day period and you should not lose weight.

      Jennifer wrote on March 20th, 2012
  36. I started lifting weights 6 months ago and paleo dieting soon after. To my dismay, I didn’t find myself losing the post-two-babies weight I wanted to lose. I told my trainer I think I must be ‘immune’ to weight loss. That’s when he told me about fasting. I love it so much. Having 2 little kids at home, there is no way on earth I would give up coffee or wine, both are essential parts of my day, so I drink a couple of cups of coffee in the morn, fast all day, and then at dinner have whatever I want…and wine, and the pounds keep coming off. It is such a liberating feeling to know that I am in control of my body now.

    Robin wrote on March 20th, 2012
    • “Having 2 little kids at home, there is no way on earth I would give up coffee or wine, both are essential parts of my day”

      I LOVE that, Robin!! And congrats on the weight loss.

      JtC wrote on March 20th, 2012

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