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November 15, 2012

Do We Need Rites of Passage?

By Mark Sisson
142 Comments

The young native American teen sent off into the darkness with nothing but a bow and arrow and expected to return with a wolf pelt or two or three. The Masaai warrior tasked with stalking and killing a lion in single combat. The donning of a glove lined with stinging bullet ants to commemorate becoming a man. Ritualistic tattooing, branding, or mutilation upon reaching a certain age or completing a certain task. The bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah, celebrations of a Jewish boy’s and girl’s respective entrances into adulthood. The Latin American quinceañera. Rites of passage are nearly universal throughout human cultures, both ancient and modern. Universally-preserved behaviors, whether physiological traits, or cultural artifacts, are usually there for very good, or at least very important reasons. So let’s take a closer look. Why do we have rites of passage? Are they still a significant part of growing up in the modern world? If not, should they be?

Most anthropologists (PDF), citing Arnold van Gennep’s major work, “The Rites of Passage,” will say that rites of passage exist in order to consolidate social ties, establish roles, and give members of a group a sense of purpose and placement. They’ll say that the smaller the group, the easier it is to have cooperation and social cohesion. Consider a single family of hunter-gatherers – mom, dad, son, daughter. The four people in this situation aren’t like family; they are family. Cohesion is built-in, it’s natural. There’s no jockeying for position, no confusion over who does what and who listens to whom. The parents protect and provide for the youngsters, the youngsters listen to the parents. This is biological. No artifice required.

Meanwhile, the larger a group gets, the more it requires formalized roles, boundaries, and relationships to enable the same kind of cooperation and cohesion. To maintain social cohesion and maximize survivability, hunter-gatherer groups composed of not one but five, ten, or twenty families are going to have to figure out how to emulate the familial ties and bonds. It will contrive and create social connections and establish roles and statuses for the members. You can’t have everyone doing their own thing without a thought to the group, because survival will be that much more difficult. Resources are scarce – or, at least, there are no guarantees, no grocery stores – and working together improves their chance at thriving and surviving. People in the group need to feel like they belong to the group. Everyone needs a stake in a tribe, and rites of passage help provide that by establishing and formalizing the roles at various life-stages.

I certainly won’t argue with that analysis. It’s well established that humans are social animals, hominids that fight and argue and bicker and laugh and cry and, yes, work together. That’s just who we are, and it’s who we’ve always been (as long as we’ve been human, at least). We form groups, we band together, and we feel intrinsic bonds with our family members. We cohere and cooperate, and I agree that rites of passage and ritual make these social ties stronger and easier to establish. But I suspect there’s more to it.

Humans are self-reflecting, introspective, eager to ascribe deeper meaning to everything, and convinced that we’re the center of the universe. After all, all we know of the world is what we can perceive; our perceptions and our thoughts and our language effectively form our world. The world, in that respect, revolves around us, and our thoughts are more gonzo journalist than impartial observer, running commentary, giving a subjective slant to everything, and shaping our experiences as we go about our day. Is it any wonder that we’d ring in our passage into adulthood with burning brands, stinging ants, huge parties, and complex and solemn ritual, rather than go quietly into the next phase? 

And of course, many rites of passage boil down to simple tests or indications of a person’s courage, fortitude, and/or aptitude. Going out by yourself and a spear and coming back with a lion’s pelt doesn’t just mean you’ve been ushered into the world of men. It also means that you are a capable hunter, a valuable addition to the group who can likely handle what the world will throw at you. Graduating college isn’t just a badge of honor; it (ideally) means you’ve garnered the skills necessary to flourish in your chosen field. Having your first menstruation isn’t just a symbolic shedding of your girlhood; it means you’re physiologically capable of getting pregnant. Rites of passage are also very utilitarian and practical, then.

Today, we have ID cards and social security numbers, badges and political party affiliations and Facebook friend lists, jobs and resumes and official titles to remind us and others who we are, where we are in the world, what we do, and who we know. Do these suffice? Or are we missing out on genuine rites of passage? Do we need the physical and mental ordeals? Do we need the formality?

Maybe. In many Western countries today, young people construct their own rites of passage, cobbling together experiences based on what they think becoming an adult actually entails. There seems to be some innate yearning for the rite of passage, some deep-seated sense that various “stages” of life exist, are real, and should be observed. “Am I a wo/man and no longer a child?” “When do I feel like a grown-up?” “What affirms this?”

I think we could all benefit from a rite of passage at one point or another to satisfy this yearning. But into today’s increasingly complex world there’s not going to be a “one size fits all” approach. We’re not living in small to large bands where you either take up hunting or fishing or medicine work, where what role you inhabit is limited by your immediate physical surroundings and the needs of your group. We have far more options and roles and jobs to fill, and we’ll have to find the rites that work for our unique situation. In that case, what would a modern rite of passage even look like?

Consider what Claire Potter did for her thirteen year old boy. She devised a list of thirteen challenges covering thirteen different areas of life for him to tackle and complete, including shopping for clothes on a budget, taking public transportation to far away cities, doing chores, learning a musical instrument and playing in public, and learning a language. He didn’t hunt lions or endure stinging ants, because he doesn’t “need” those skills. He’s more likely to use the skills he did learn in his life in this world.

This is just the tip of the iceberg on this topic, but I hope this gets a conversation going and gets you thinking about what role a rite of passage may or may not have played in your life.

What do you think, readers? Do we still need rites of passage? Do the old ones still apply, or do we need entirely new ones that make sense in today’s world? If so, what would they look like? Have you gone through a rite of passage? Tell us all about it in the comment section!

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Wayne
3 years 10 months ago
Interesting question, I think there would be a lot of benefits to our culture having a rite of passage. The problem is finding an appropriate task to do. Anything hunting related would be protested by the liberals and I can’t see today’s parents allowing their kids to do something dangerous like camping in the woods for a few days by themselves or travelling to a faraway city while alone. The best rite of passage I can think of would be a physical test. For example a teen boy would need to be able to do 5 pull ups, 20 push… Read more »
Nelly
3 years 10 months ago
Not all liberals are veg*ns. I’m about as liberal as I can get without actually packing up and moving in with the Zapatistas, and I have a very high opinion of hunting. In my opinion, it’s a. the most free-range, naturally-raised meat you can get and thereby the best for you, and b. pretty much the only way you can truly understand what is given up so that you can eat meat. If you’re not willing to personally take the lives of the animals with which you sustain yourself, you shouldn’t eat them. (Note that I’m not saying everyone needs… Read more »
Wayne
3 years 10 months ago

Fair enough, some liberals would protest a hunting rite of passage while cool liberals like yourself would not.

defrog
defrog
3 years 10 months ago

+1!

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Curious. Are you liberal in the true root of the word? As in an individual being “free”; hence the words liberate and liberty. Please elaborate.

Wenchypoo
Wenchypoo
3 years 10 months ago

In Israel, males aren’t men until they’ve completed two years in the military. It may be the same in other places.

Liz
Liz
3 years 10 months ago

Females are expected to serve in the Israeli army too–I’m curious if they are seen as women afterward?

Txomin
Txomin
3 years 10 months ago

Combat?

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Real men stand against conscription. Conscription is enslavement. Ya know, the reason Jews wanted out of Egypt…

Adam
Adam
3 years 10 months ago

Real men and women love conscription. If everyone has to server, including the children of the politicians, it makes people take war, conflict, etc more seriously. It is a dept to society.

Besides, the combat soldiers are all volunteers. Everyone has to server, but only volunteers join combat units.

Adam
Adam
3 years 10 months ago

Eh. 3 years for men, 2 years (almost) for ladies. And it is a right of passage, yes.

Team Oberg
3 years 10 months ago

liberal does not equal crazy tree hugging vegan hippies.

Nelly
3 years 10 months ago

I hug the crap out of some trees. But I also eat utterly ridiculous amounts of (local, sustainable, naturally-raised) meat. Because it’s freaking delicious.

BillP
BillP
3 years 10 months ago

It does, in some small minds.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

It does in Massachusetts (where I use to live).

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

P.S. you forgot gun hating. (Once again, Massachusetts: home to Smith and Wesson and the removal of the musket from the Umass minute man) PPS Cambridge sucks.

paleodude
3 years 10 months ago

I am way liberal and I don’t have an issue with people who hunt ethically.

Both of my boys would be able to pass the fitness test you describe.

I do agree that most parents would not allow their kids to travel by themselves.

I have thought about this issue before and think I need to come up with something for my kids. It seems pretty important and I wish I had to do something like this when I was a kid.

Mark A
Mark A
3 years 10 months ago

That would mean someone like Stephen Hawking would never be considered a man. Modern adulthood really doesn’t require physical prowess, nor is it restricted to boys/men.

Modern American society has plenty of rites of passage, they’re generally broken down into smaller groups though and don’t necessarily apply to everyone.

High school graduation is probably the most universal in the US, but I went through several others – Catholic confirmation, Eagle Scout and Order of the Arrow (we had to spend the night in the woods alone with no food or gear) in Boy Scouts, fraternity initiation, etc.

Nelly
3 years 10 months ago

Very good point, Mark, and it brings up a side that’s been left out so far (that I’ve seen) – what about rites of passage for people with disabilities or illnesses who physically can’t do something like stay alone in the woods all night (as something like that is invariably suggested in discussions like this)? Just offhand, I’d suggest something like planning and executing a cross-country or international trip by any means necessary, with someone along for material aid if necessary but otherwise alone.

b2curious
b2curious
3 years 10 months ago

While your point is valid, your example is not. Stephen Hawking did not begin showing signs of ALS (aka Lou Gehrig’s Disease) until college. Prior to that, his physical abilities were normal.

Now, as for rites of passage, a friend of mine and I discussed this issue several years ago. We concluded that our society is sadly lacking in rites of passage for many young people, aside from high school graduation. I wish we had a few more societal rites of passage prior to graduation.

DuncaN
DuncaN
3 years 10 months ago

One of the nice things usually, about MDA is the lack of political name-calling. I am asking you nicely to keep it that way, Wayne.

For the record, I am very liberal, I eat meat (obviously, as I’m here), all my liberal friends eat meat, I know vegetarian and vegan Conservatives and Libertarians, and the notion that the “liberals” are generally opposed to hunting is inaccurate. Lots of us hunt and fish.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

It is all perspective. Either you are the robber or the robbed. Either way the state enables it.

DuncaN
DuncaN
3 years 10 months ago
I repeat – why don’t you find another place to vent your frustration about the results of the last election. This is a post about rights of passage, and really has nothing to do with politics. There are a million places on the web where you can separate persons into political tribes, if that is how you choose to view the world. MDA is a supportive community that addresses the primal lifestyle and associated issues, and is refreshingly free of the kind of divisive crap you find just about everywhere else. I mean, do you really think persons who celebrate… Read more »
Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

I find it funny how you applaud the forum for being apolitical and then toss in your political stance. Me? I make no qualms about it. I’m a political atheist because I believe in the individual, freedom, private property and private contracts. Being primal means one is born free. How about that for a ritual.

DuncaN
DuncaN
3 years 10 months ago

Politely asking someone to consider whether this is the place to post partisan political comments, and explaining why his partisan comment is wrong, is not “tossing in my political stance.”

Fiona
Fiona
3 years 10 months ago
At my kids school, they go away for 9 weeks when they’re in Year 9 (so 14/15 year olds generally), and while they’re away, they have to spend 24 hours camping solo (they also do a couple of other extended hikes/camping), they also cook their own meals, wash their own clothes etc. etc. for the whole time they’re away (part of it is also doing school work, but without their regular technology, so no computers, phones etc.) They get one phone call home a week. My kids haven’t done it yet (my oldest goes at the end of Jan next… Read more »
Kelley
Kelley
3 years 10 months ago

I would love to know where this school is!

allison
allison
3 years 10 months ago
i’m a mother of 2 grown children and a liberal. i thinking hunting is just fine as long as you are hunting for food, not trophies. i live in rural new england and it is hunting season right now. my brother-in-law is out in the woods every weekend hunting for his family’s supply of red meat for the winter. i’m not sure how old you are, but your comment leads me to think you still have some growing to do. a physical test for manhood may not be possible for every young man. i prefer claire potter’s approach. my kids… Read more »
Samantha
Samantha
3 years 10 months ago
I think the problem with imposing one test for all is that our current society has integrated so many people with so many different abilities that any one test will inevitably exclude some people who are capable of being an adult in the currently necessary ways, but aren’t physically able to pass specific tests. In the days most rites of passage were created, highly physical tests were necessary because the lives of those being tested had to be highly physical. While physical ability is still important (I would like to think that all physically normal adults can carry groceries up… Read more »
Luke D
Luke D
3 years 10 months ago

Interesting Mark never really thought about it in a way of necessity. Enjoyed the Claire Potter article. What a great idea, If I had kids I’d do something similar. Gotta love the tshirt he picked out….

I would say one particularly common American ritual is turning 21 and drinking. And sadly its not go out and have one drink its go get obliterated. Not sure what necessity that serves? Act an idiot so you don’t want to again?

(not judging I did that too, swear I didn’t mean to though)

BillP
BillP
3 years 10 months ago

You forgot getting a tattoo and contracting a venerial disease.

Luke D
Luke D
3 years 10 months ago

Ha actually agree on that tattoo

BillP
BillP
3 years 10 months ago

Too bad tattoos are meaningless in our society; except perhaps as a rebellion against our parents, by imitating a feature of prison culture (particularly along with a shaved head.)

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

The tramp stamp is an awesome gift to male humanity.

Anu
Anu
3 years 10 months ago

Ha! On the nose!

Nelly
3 years 10 months ago

My thoughts upon first reading your comment: “A tattoo…on the nose?”

Darrell
Darrell
3 years 10 months ago

I disagree. I think a rite of passage should, in some way, demonstrate your own capacity for self-reliance. As such, excursions into the wilderness or to far-away places seem entirely suitable to me. Remember,it is a rite of passage into adulthood. Therefore, the child must be old enough, mature enough, and intelligent enough, to take care of themselves. This age is different for all people. This leads to the need for parents with wisdom and a good understanding of their child.

Wenchypoo
Wenchypoo
3 years 10 months ago

Boy Scouts?

Hilary
Hilary
3 years 10 months ago

I am involved with a Boy Scout troup. I go as an adult chaperone, usually the only woman. I am always wanting to take things the boys need like soap, tissues, and allergy medicine. Thing they forget. I also enjoy cooking for the boys. But, the Scout leader insist the boys are supposed to be cooking for themselves, packing for themselves, learning to care for themeselves. It is hard for me to turn off the mothering and watch them become independent. I am trying very hard to comply!

Hilary
Hilary
3 years 10 months ago

On campouts I mean!

Donna
Donna
3 years 10 months ago

+ 1…Extremely well-stated Darryll….

Carolyn
Carolyn
3 years 10 months ago
I think the feeling of acceptance, being unconditionally loved, being forgiven, being forgiving, and giving of one’s self is crucial to living a fulfilled life. I think a person has value before they are even born and should be celebrated for who they are as an individual and expected to contribute to their family, community, country, and the world. Not just a responsibility to self, but responsibility to others. For me, this happens on a daily basis and really does not need a rite of passage. When you place value on children and understand they can be contributors no matter… Read more »
Nelly
3 years 10 months ago
It’s not to say that children can’t be contributors to society, I think. But childhood, to me, can start to be defined as a period of time when there is more learning how to contribute than actual contribution, although the learning process definitely continues (or should). So in that vein, a rite of passage would essentially be providing evidence to society and yourself that you’ve actually internalized all the lessons you’ve received since birth. Specific age doesn’t matter as much as ability and wisdom. There’s also the idea of moments of great meaning and epiphany – Mark wrote about moments… Read more »
Carolyn
Carolyn
3 years 10 months ago

My son was a boy scout who earned Eagle rank. The ceremony was not as important to him as the journey he took to get him there, but it was an opportunity for him to understand the impact he had on his fellow scouts and his leaders. We were proud parents. If I asked my son what were meaningful, life changing makers in his life I do not think the ceremony or his eagle project would his answer. It be a natural life experience.

Nelly
3 years 10 months ago

I’d really like to know his answer to the question, actually. Of course I can’t speak for others, but if someone were to ask me what things (type unspecified) had the largest impact on my life, I know I’d respond with certain events, regardless of how long the journey was to get to those points. Graduating is one example – of course it takes years to get to that point, but the actual day of graduation is what sticks out.

Janice James
Janice James
3 years 10 months ago
My son had the same experience in 4-H. Most of the skills that serve him well as an adult are those he learned in 4-H, which puts a lot of emphasis on letting kids do their own work and on public speaking and organizational skills. He also went to a Waldorf school. On the surface that’s a very liberal place, but they have lots of rites of passage built into their curriculum. Their twist to competition is not to force equalization in everything, like in public school, but to encourage the kids to help each other compete and then celebrate… Read more »
River
River
3 years 10 months ago

Hey are you Carolyn in Minneapolis? it’s River Your neighbor! And you’re kid was not only a good scout but an awesome neighbor.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Children do contribute to society. How else would my Nike sneakers be so cheap after shipping them across the world?

Ben
Ben
3 years 10 months ago
I think Rites of Passage are essential for all people, but especially the folks in Western countries. The stereotypes we have now are appalling and how we define, say, manhood, is either ridiculous or non-existant. Too many people think that being a man is not being a woman, rather than not being a child. So the manly arts (poetry, dance, drama, patinting) are left undone and are replaced with “manly” activities of lifting weights and getting drunk, all while watching NASCAR. A Rite of Passage should be confirmation that a boy is a man or a girl a woman. And… Read more »
Liz
Liz
3 years 10 months ago

Great points, Ben!

Kitty =^..^=
Kitty =^..^=
3 years 10 months ago

Agreed.

b2curious
b2curious
3 years 10 months ago

That’s funny, I’d say the same tests would apply to women as well. Tesing of courage, compassion, wisdom, self-sacrifice and physical ability, to my mind should be the ROP of a child becoming an adult, be it male or female. Mind you, the tests should not be identical, as there are physical and emotional differences between the sexes that should not be ignored.

Sharon
Sharon
3 years 10 months ago
I once spent the day with a woman who expressed several times that being in the military made a man out of her son. I kept wondering if the military would make a man out of woman who joins the military as well? The idea that ritual is more about going from childhood to adulthood than specifically becoming a man or woman seems to make more sense to me. I once read that if you don’t give your child a ritual into adulthood,they will make up their own ritual. Does this at least partially explain the drugs, alcohol, smoking and… Read more »
Deanna
3 years 10 months ago

LOL, I’m in the Navy, and you would be surprised how many women came out of boot camp acting like men.

I’m “just a musician,” and the MCPON is trying out complete men’s uniforms on the women. In Hawaii, San Diego, and Norfolk, the musician women are now wearing the dixie cup and cracker jacks. So, I guess to be in the Navy, you have to be a man. Even if you’re a woman.

*steps off soapbox*

Adrian
Adrian
3 years 10 months ago

I highly recommend anyone interested in this subject to watch or read “The Power of Myth” which features Joseph Campbell. There is a thorough discussion on the many forms and importance of myths and rights of passage in the psyche of a society. Overall a very interesting and enjoyable read (I haven’t watched the series, only read the published transcript).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell#The_Power_of_Myth

Erok
Erok
3 years 10 months ago

Yes! Joseph Campbell! Power of Myth is in my ‘top three eye-opener books’ list! Glad you mentioned it.

Kent H
Kent H
3 years 9 months ago

Read also “The Hero with a Thousand Faces” by Campbell. Excellent analysis of hero myths and the crossing of thresholds or John Barth’s excellent essay “Mystery and Tragedy: The Twin Motions of Herosim” (can be read here: http://www.en8848.com.cn/fiction/NonFiction/Others/59475_10.html).

JP
JP
3 years 10 months ago

Iron john by Robert Bly is about this very subject for the modern man from the perspective of a poet. Iron john, or iron Hans is a story from the grim brothers collection. Metaphor and story being the main ways in which young boys would grow into men. It’s available on the web in audio for free. Good/read listen for both fathers and mothers.

Happycyclegirl
Happycyclegirl
3 years 10 months ago
I was just thinking about this the other day and trying to think what would be appropriate for our daughters. And would more than one rite be appropriate? Could we have one at 12 or 13 years old and another when they reach 18–the legal definition of adult? Many things to consider about the ritual but certainly something I want to do. There’s no doubt that it is something important to me. (Even though I never had anything of the sort. I attribute my new-found interest in this to the primal community.) Thanks for writing about this Mark. Oh, ya,… Read more »
em
em
3 years 10 months ago

There are a number of rituals out there for menarche. Red tents, candle lighting, blessings… I kinda like the idea of welcoming a girl into the circle of women (lord knows, every girl is bound to need some wisdom at point or another, just figuring out all the different kinds of goo we make). But… then I had boys.

Hilary
Hilary
3 years 10 months ago

One night in Los Olivos, CA, I got together with some friends and all the neighborhood virgins (a collection of about 11 young girls). We read poetry, lit candles, and danced and sang around the full moon. It was pretty fun. It was a celebration of pure and innocent young womanhood. Of course, it was during my hippie days…

Nocona
Nocona
3 years 10 months ago

Vision Quest! A fine, American Indian ritual. Probably the most powerful thing I’ve ever done. Still affects me 30 years later.

Danny
Danny
3 years 10 months ago

I think we could all very much benefit from such things.

1. I think countries that require a year or two of civil service (Germany?) after high school/college probably achieve a greater sense of cohesion. I met one guy who instead of joining the armed forces drove an ambulance during his required time. Very cool.

2. I think spending time abroad (e.g. min 3 months) should be required in high school and/or college in our society. I think this would serve this rite of passage purpose well.

Seth
3 years 10 months ago

The LDS church continues to promote the selfless service of it’s full time missionaries as a rite of passage- and it’s usually spot on: 21 year old men come home after having done their own laundry, shopped for groceries, cooked, cleaned, and otherwise completely cared for themselves 100%.

Rob Caleffi
3 years 10 months ago
In the west, we have no official rites of passage. However, this need to test ourselves, and pass through in a concrete way may be imbedded in the human psyche. Western youth seem to have filled this need themselves with their own concoctions; Excessive risk taking activities, such as parties, drug experimentation, and promiscuity may be ways that youth are expressing their need to feel that they are challenging and pushing themselves, and entering into adulthood. In the last 150yrs, western culture has chosen to extend childhood, and ‘protect’ our youth from the adult world. Groks kids were ‘adults’ after… Read more »
Nikki
Nikki
3 years 10 months ago

The link to the 13 year old’s right of passage was quite entertaining and informative. And has me thinking for the (very distant) future….

Tasha
3 years 10 months ago

The question of “when do I become an adult” is one I’ve blogged about recently. I don’t think rites of passage are necessary. I think it would be more beneficial to celebrates accomplishments and “phases” as they happen, rather than at any pre-defined set point. Do all milestones have to be such a big deal? I think it adds more stress for modern adolescents, making them feel like they have something to live up to, rather than just fulfilling themselves.

kishore
kishore
3 years 10 months ago

“America has lost its soul; now it’s trying to save its body” -George Carlin

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Carlin. My favorite philosopher.

Lewis
Lewis
3 years 10 months ago

“Consider what Claire Potter did for her thirteen year old boy.”

Must I?

And to be frank what does it have to do with “rites de passage”?

The social context has vanished.

This is not something the older men of the tribe have arranged for him, and after which they will regard him in a different way. It’s something his mum has cooked up for him, which has no reference outside his family circle.

Whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing, it has nothing to do with “rites de passage”.

Stacie
Stacie
3 years 10 months ago

I think the point is to think of a rite of passage in new ways. We obviously don’t need to have a man pass out some kind of test to boys in order for them to become men (as many of the comments have said). Or society has changed, and so have our rites of passage.

Chris
Chris
3 years 10 months ago

Weirdness of todays western lifestyle:

– Move out or be forced to move out at 18 from your house
– Lead an extremely self-centered, individualistic lifestyle
– Throw old parents in ‘senior living’
– Get a dog(s)
– Get mentally messed up, pay to see a therapist because there is no social and mental support system because of alienating close human interactions.
– End up in ‘senior living’

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[…] I follow Mark’s Daily Apple. I find the Primal/Paleo diet a great resource for healthy eating as well as gluten-free and often, casien-free recipes. Mark Sesson writes about more than just food. He also writes about the difference between modern lifestyles and past, or even pre-historic lifestyles as it pertains to our physical, mental and emotional health. He recently had an article on Rites of Passage. […]

Karl
Karl
3 years 10 months ago
Interesting passage from a book called Testosterone Principles: This book is about manhood, and, well, other stuff. But let’s address the manhood thing first. And I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking the type of manhood that worships monster truck rallies and nacho fries and fast cars; that paints its bare chest green and sits in the subzero stands of Lambeau Field with a hunk of plastic cheese on its head while bellowing like a gutted Klingon; that communicates largely by grunting, belching, or telling fart jokes. You know, all that stereotypical crap. But that’s not what I had in… Read more »
BillP
BillP
3 years 10 months ago

Unfortunately, while some paleolithic/hunter-gatherer types of rites of passage had a decent function (forcing an affiliation with the group, for survival purposes), the modern substitutes, in our fractured, diverse society, seem to just be a desperate attempt to hold on to their young members, and to forestall the centrifugal effects of society at large.

Gabby
Gabby
3 years 10 months ago

I felt like I became an adult when I went from milk chocolate to dark chocolate.

Joy Beer
Joy Beer
3 years 10 months ago

+1

Nick the Destroyer
Nick the Destroyer
3 years 10 months ago

I go through rituals regularly. Just passed a 5th degree Black Belt test Saturday. Every year around my birthday I have a list of 12 physical challenges I test myself in. I say these things help me remember that I’m still alive.

Lars T.
Lars T.
3 years 10 months ago

the 12 physical challenges sounds awesome.

Madama Butterfry
Madama Butterfry
3 years 10 months ago

Reminds me of Mr. Costanza Snr.’s Festivus.

paleodude
3 years 10 months ago

Festivus for the rest of us. Feats of Strength!

David
David
3 years 10 months ago

The Mankind Project and the Boys to Men mentoring program offer rites of passage weekends along with an ongoing support network. Many men such as myself have benefited from these organizations.

Sondra Rose
3 years 10 months ago

Absolutely! My husband has benefited hugely from MKP & has been a regular volunteer with Boys to Men.

Here are the sites:

http://mankindproject.org/

http://www.boystomen.org/

Team Oberg
3 years 10 months ago

Americans dont have a unique rite of passage the way that other cultures do. Some places it is hunting, ritual scarification, tattoos, slaughtering dolphins. I think it is different in this country because we have such an amalgamtion of different cultures that it is hard to point out anything that is uniquely “ours”

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Sure Americans have a right of passage, it is stealing and killing, aka voting.

D'Arcy
D'Arcy
3 years 10 months ago
According to Jon Young, who has been studying cultural regeneration and nature connection for 20 plus years, rites of passage are super important. He distilled it down to two life events: rites of passage when a child is 11-13 ish, which involves some kind of perceived risk and accomplishment. Then at around 16 there is an initiation type event that involves the child leaving the community, experiencing aloneness, and then making the choice to return and contribute. This is essentially a ‘journey through the wilderness’ type of thing. An example would be a vision quest, which is a shared ritual… Read more »
Ben
Ben
3 years 10 months ago
I’ve noticed several people talking about “phases”, “unconditional love” and “acceptance.” I believe that these things are important for a well balanced human being, but they are the antithesis of a Rite of Passage. Take unconditional love, for instance. Unconditional love tells us more about the lover than the one loved. Unconditional love tells us that the lover (mom) loves their kid no matter what. I think that is vitally important for us to experience in our lives. However, come the teen years, unconditional love becomes a curse. I think this is why relationships (generally speaking) degenerate so quickly between… Read more »
Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Get rid of tax payer backed student loans and the driftless 20’s will self correct itself.

Donald
Donald
3 years 10 months ago
I think rites of passage would definitely help my 15 year old boys. I like Claire Potters ideas. I plan on putting a list like that together for my boys to conquer before their 16th year is over. Getting a drivers license will be one of them. After the list is accomplished I will consider them a man and able to make decisions about their own life and help the family in making decisions. There is a site I like called The Art of Manliness that is great at covering what a young man should be able to do in… Read more »
an old man
an old man
3 years 10 months ago

you’re an adult when you don’t have to wonder if you are or aren’t- whatever you did to make you realize the fact that play time is over

Stacie
Stacie
3 years 10 months ago

But according to the primal lifestyle, play time is never over 😉

Kelly
3 years 10 months ago

I believe that rites of passage are an important part of our society that is missing. I plan on doing something like Claire Potter’s idea when my son is old enough.

Mark A
Mark A
3 years 10 months ago
Some Rites of Passage that we could implement to prove that our children are capable of surviving in the modern world: -The customer service phone call. A teenager would have to successfully order cable installation, dispute a credit card bill, or return a defective item from an online store. Any signs of impatience or frustration would be considered failure. -Cubicle endurance. 8 hours with minimal stimulation in a gray environment with no intelligent conversation. A truly grueling test. -Carbohydrate overdose. The teenager is fed large quantities of empty calories in the form of white flour, sugar, sodium, and fat. This… Read more »
Madama Butterfry
Madama Butterfry
3 years 10 months ago

That is SUCH a grim list man.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

This brought forth a hearty chuckle.

Joy Beer
Joy Beer
3 years 10 months ago

Hilarious and spot on!

Kymber
Kymber
3 years 10 months ago
I have a hazy vision of a weekend retreat attended by women who have had a significant role in my daughter’s life. Skiing in to a cabin, eating a satisfying and meaty meal, and sharing stories and discussion of what it means to be a woman around a fire. Then some sort of ritual at the end of the weekend to bring her into her new role. Good thing I have about ten more years to work out the details. I really appreciate the idea of making rites of passage more intentional. Mine passed across the fuzzy line from adolescence… Read more »
Rocky
Rocky
3 years 10 months ago

Excellent article Mark!

Here in Australia, when someone turns 18, it pretty much involves a lot of alcohol (as it’s the legal drinking age here). It’s probably similar in other parts too.

I’ve always felt that we’ve been a bit ‘culturally devoid’ of any rituals signifying the passage into adulthood, and we pay the price, with many young adults frantically trying to find an identity.

My 2 cents…

Anne Wayman
3 years 10 months ago
Years ago, in my 40s I crewed two of us took a 40 ft steel ketch from Suva, Fiji to Brisbane, Oz. Our one port of call was New Caladonia to get me a Visa. I was knackered and had stopped enjoying myself. As we moved thru another small squall I asked God/Spieri/my Self for help. I knew I needed something to mentally get back on track. As we sailed out of the squall I noticed the skt, Southern Cross and more stars than I could ever imagine. I started having fun again and realized I had made a real… Read more »
Anne Wayman
3 years 10 months ago

That’s two of us crewed …

Kathy
Kathy
3 years 10 months ago

It may not be ideal but it fits our culture: getting a driver’s license. Once you can drive you can date and get a job and make real money. It’s a big step up from the kid world to the adult world. True, it’s not physical and Grok-like, and not nearly as impressive as slaying a wolf or lion, but it fits, doesn’t it?

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

I concur that it is not ideal. Since there are age discrimination laws, then why is there a “floor”? Isn’t that self defeating? If one can earn money through voluntary exchange then why prohibit them?

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
3 years 10 months ago

Forgot to add, why does one need a state permitted license (for a fee of course) to exercise their right to assemble (dating) or sell an extension of themself (labor)?

David Marino
David Marino
3 years 10 months ago
“our thoughts are more gonzo journalist than impartial observer, running commentary, giving a subjective slant to everything.” Yes sir. But most people cannot detect the slant. Everything about commericial society (schooling, government, media, advertizing, even parenting in most cases) trains the individual to be completely unaware of the slant. So people in industial society swallow it – hook, line, and sinker. But we are a critical moment in the history of civilization, where the decline of industrial society is an inevitable result, because people aren’t swallowing it anymore. “Graduating college isn’t just a badge of honor”. No sir. Unfortunately its… Read more »
Kelley
Kelley
3 years 10 months ago

+1. Well said.

Tim
Tim
3 years 10 months ago
I think rites of passage are vital in growing young people (particularly young men) into mature adults. The uninitiated are forever wondering if they’ve arrived yet. Although I didn’t plan it as such, my initiation proved to be the summer of 2002, which I spent volunteering on a hospital rehabilitation project in Afghanistan. It was life changing and provided for me that defining moment I can point to and say, “Yes, I’ve been a man since that summer in the desert.” I plan to lead my sons in initiation rites of some kind when they get older. Fortunately, I still… Read more »
Kathy
3 years 10 months ago
For me, the birth of my children was a huge rite of passage. They were both born at home with a midwife and no drugs. It made me realize and accept that there are some jobs that I just have to do for myself. I’ve heard a theory that women have built in rites of passage (menstruation and birth), and so rites of passage were often constructed for boys. I wish my menarche had been a more meaningful experience. I wasn’t at all ready or interested in being a woman at that time (a month short of 12, and very… Read more »
em
em
3 years 10 months ago

I know what you mean — I was even younger, and very much a child. My mom had arbitrarily decided I could get my ears pierced when I started my period. In retrospect, it seems both silly and wise.

Buy wartrol
3 years 10 months ago

I think this is why connections (generally speaking) transform so easily between mothers and their teenager outdated children. The children want to know they are liked because they are value something, not just because their mom is a awesome gal.

Perun
Perun
3 years 10 months ago
At the end of 90s we still had a obligatory conscript army service, which was removed since then. Remembering how many things in my life fell into place after my service – I finished my studies with ease and more or less did well in anything I set out to do, I am still grateful. I think the later generations are missing out since they don’t have to do it anymore. I remember how the attitute of the male part of my family’s attitude changed when I came home – They noticably treated me as an adult. Suddenly I’ve felt… Read more »
Mike UK
Mike UK
3 years 10 months ago

As long as the “initiate” consents and isn’t harmed against his own will, then I can see no harm done and would actually promote rites as earned.
However, when it comes to barbaric practices performed on people against their will e.g. circumcision, than I oppose them outright, no matter what the reason given.
Rites and initiation is one of the best ways to keep members true to a cause and unfortunately, this is used in most power-hungry institutions like religion (hijacked teachings of former holy men), free masonry and most, if not all, secret societies.
Peace

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ponymama
ponymama
3 years 10 months ago

About the age of 13, as my body started the changed to being a women. My grandmother took me shopping for the day. We had lunch in a fancy restrant. And at the end of the day she before she took me home she gave me a “real” birthstone ring. And was told to ware it as a reminder that i was now becoming a woman and should act like one. She also did this for my sister.
Many years latter my sister an I both still remeber it as a very special time in our life.

Elizabeth
3 years 10 months ago

I LOVE this. I *hope* my oldest daughter still has a few years (she’s only 8), but I could see this as being part of a rite of passage for my girls.

Emily
Emily
3 years 10 months ago

A lot of religions have this. I’m Catholic, so when I was confirmed I was an “adult” in the Church. Jews have bar and bat mitzvahs. Religions have always had this sort of idea, I think.

Munro
Munro
3 years 10 months ago
As an actual, practicing modern day wilderness rites of passage (aka the vision quest) guide, I have a few thoughts on this. Although there were tests of manhood that involve hunting, most American Indian rites of passage for young men involved them fasting alone and praying at some sacred place for four days or more. (For girls, the onset of menstruation initiated them into womanhood, and they then spent time isolated with the women in order to be instructed in what that meant for them and the group.) Ok, back to the young men. Young men are problematic – all… Read more »
Don in Arkansas
Don in Arkansas
3 years 10 months ago

I think 2 years of National Service, military or otherwise, would be in order. Preferably in an underdeveloped nation or in an extreme poverty area of the U.S. No exception unless disabled to the extent that it made it impossible/impractical to serve in any way. Then, after service, guaranteed admission to college or trade school at a subsidized rate.

Kathleen Aguilar
Kathleen Aguilar
3 years 10 months ago

Mark:

You might find James Hollis’s book “Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Lide” interesting on this subject. He argues, based on Jungian psychology, that there is a spiritual component to rites of passage, as well as a teaching by adults of how to be a man versus a boy or a woman versus a girl.

Danielle
Danielle
3 years 10 months ago

Yes we do. Rites of passage are important, especially for boys, I think. That is why my son will have several in the course of his life, starting with the ritualization of his first haircut on his third birthday (yes, he was frequently mistaken for a girl before then, but the ritual marking his passage from baby to little boy was important to me), and the ceremony in which he earned his black belt.

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Drew
Drew
3 years 10 months ago
I think our society is full of rights of passage, but we are very used to them. They mean less now because because we have found workarounds. For example, say what you will about morality and all that, marriage used to be a right of passage for the ability to have sex. I realize that marriage is way more complicated than sex but that was a big deal to men because they weren’t allowed to have sex before. I was never in the military but I feel like the military my grandfather was part of in WWII is different than… Read more »
Rich
3 years 10 months ago

As Archie Bunker would say “We don’t need no stinking Rites of Passage!” We need people who work at achieving some level of maturity or wisdom that provides them the ability to live successfully in our world today. That may mean many things – we are all differently gifted and trained. Tolerance has never been more desired in our society that it is today – as are good communication skills. BTW, all most as much as the message, I appreciate Mark’s excellent communication skills.

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