Comments on: 10 “Vegetables” You Shouldn’t Be Eating http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/ Serving up health and fitness insights (daily, of course) with a side of irreverence. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:42:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Mark Sisson http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-100852 Mark Sisson Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:59:48 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-100852 1) On the primal plan, we don't TRY to burn a lot of carbs. There is no reason to. Long aerobic stuff done easy burns almost entirely fats. Short intense stuff on the PB plan burns carbs but you don't ever do it long enough to deplete carbs. If you choose to train to race long, don't then argue that PB doesn't work, because PB isn't set up to do "chronic cardio". 2) The notion that "fats burn in a carbohydrate flame" is 1980s technology. It's wrong. Fats and carbs burn in an amino acid flame. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18500949 3) Ketosis is not evil for all the reasons I have stated many times on the site and in prior answers on mine and other sites. If you as a reader still want to believe what others say, be my guest, but it's quite clear that ketosis is a normal, healthy form of energy production and human metabolism. 1) On the primal plan, we don’t TRY to burn a lot of carbs. There is no reason to. Long aerobic stuff done easy burns almost entirely fats. Short intense stuff on the PB plan burns carbs but you don’t ever do it long enough to deplete carbs. If you choose to train to race long, don’t then argue that PB doesn’t work, because PB isn’t set up to do “chronic cardio”.

2) The notion that “fats burn in a carbohydrate flame” is 1980s technology. It’s wrong. Fats and carbs burn in an amino acid flame. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18500949

3) Ketosis is not evil for all the reasons I have stated many times on the site and in prior answers on mine and other sites. If you as a reader still want to believe what others say, be my guest, but it’s quite clear that ketosis is a normal, healthy form of energy production and human metabolism.

]]> By: Joe http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-100787 Joe Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:30:51 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-100787 Hey Mark, I've been reading about this idea of fat-burning on a low carb diet. Seems that carbs are needed to ignite the consumption of fat by muscles at aerobic levels of activity. (The whole Krebb's cycle thing where carbs are the lighter fluid and fats the wood). Without sufficient carbs the engine just runs down, or worse starts to cannibalize muscle tissue . . . Given all this, I wonder what you think an appropriate level of carbs is on the primal diet and how one should gauge this. Also, it seems in mainstream medical circles a state of ketosis is considered to be an evil. Do you disagree? Why? Hey Mark,
I’ve been reading about this idea of fat-burning on a low carb diet. Seems that carbs are needed to ignite the consumption of fat by muscles at aerobic levels of activity. (The whole Krebb’s cycle thing where carbs are the lighter fluid and fats the wood). Without sufficient carbs the engine just runs down, or worse starts to cannibalize muscle tissue . . .
Given all this, I wonder what you think an appropriate level of carbs is on the primal diet and how one should gauge this. Also, it seems in mainstream medical circles a state of ketosis is considered to be an evil. Do you disagree? Why?

]]> By: Kery http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-25230 Kery Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:24:10 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-25230 Would you believe it if I were to say that even in my country, with its reputation of gastronomy and real gourmet meals, corn tends to be considered as a vegetable by most people (including those that came preaching for "5 fruits and veggies a day" in the campus restaurant last year)? The usual argument is "yes but we put it in salads". Well, I happen to put chicken in my salads sometimes, so can I assume that chicken is a vegetable? :p Would you believe it if I were to say that even in my country, with its reputation of gastronomy and real gourmet meals, corn tends to be considered as a vegetable by most people (including those that came preaching for “5 fruits and veggies a day” in the campus restaurant last year)?

The usual argument is “yes but we put it in salads”. Well, I happen to put chicken in my salads sometimes, so can I assume that chicken is a vegetable? :p

]]> By: Jane http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-25058 Jane Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:00:34 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-25058 I think it's very funny what gets classified as a vegetable nowadays! But I don't think Ketchup is really the same as the rest on there...it's a condiment and a true serving is pretty small compared to a bog of chips that advertises "veggie." Yes, it has sugar but in a small amount, it makes a treat of fries or a burger taste sooo much better! I think it’s very funny what gets classified as a vegetable nowadays! But I don’t think Ketchup is really the same as the rest on there…it’s a condiment and a true serving is pretty small compared to a bog of chips that advertises “veggie.” Yes, it has sugar but in a small amount, it makes a treat of fries or a burger taste sooo much better!

]]> By: Brian A http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-24832 Brian A Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:16:56 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-24832 There is nothing as tasty as a high-quality balsamic (which should cost about the same as a good bottle of Moet) and EVOO (which should also be expensive or I question quality and production techniques). However, I admit to using store-bought salad dressings, but I mix it with about 50% EVOO and 25% water. The EVOO adds a healthy dose of good oil (I drink about a quart every week or two) and the water helps it spread out around the salad better. This amount of flavor from the dressing makes it more of a subtle complement rather than a salad taking a bath in it. Sometimes I eat my salads plain... When you eat a couple salads a day, using the exact same concoction of balsamic and EVOO gets tastefully boring... There is nothing as tasty as a high-quality balsamic (which should cost about the same as a good bottle of Moet) and EVOO (which should also be expensive or I question quality and production techniques).

However, I admit to using store-bought salad dressings, but I mix it with about 50% EVOO and 25% water. The EVOO adds a healthy dose of good oil (I drink about a quart every week or two) and the water helps it spread out around the salad better. This amount of flavor from the dressing makes it more of a subtle complement rather than a salad taking a bath in it. Sometimes I eat my salads plain…

When you eat a couple salads a day, using the exact same concoction of balsamic and EVOO gets tastefully boring…

]]> By: Mark Sisson http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-24831 Mark Sisson Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:14:28 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/bad-vegetables/#comment-24831 Thanks for the post suggestions everyone! I'll have to pencil in a post about canola oil and corn masa for the near future. Thanks again! Thanks for the post suggestions everyone! I’ll have to pencil in a post about canola oil and corn masa for the near future. Thanks again!

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