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July 19, 2012

Ancient Wisdom Confirmed by Modern Science

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This is a guest post from Jonathan Bailor of The Smarter Science of Slim and JonathanBailor.com.

Executive Summary

Short Version: Primal has been proven right.

Longer Version: Endorsed by the world-wide scientific community including top doctors at the Harvard Medical School, Johns Hopkins, and UCLA, and approved as curriculum for registered dieticians (RDs) by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the single largest meta-analysis of health and fitness ever conducted shows that conventional “eat less, exercise more” approaches are far less effective than going Primal, harm our health, and lead to fat gain 95.4 percent of the time.

I Had to Stop Doing The Same Thing Over and Over and Expecting Different Results

Much like Mark, my journey into the science of wellness started because I was fed-up with the counterproductive nature of conventional wisdom. Over a decade ago I worked as a personal trainer and spent my days helping people eat less and exercise more. It didn’t take long for me to see the now proven fact that this conventional wisdom fails long-term over 95% of the time. Sure, as long as my clients paid me to “force” them to starve themselves and exercise obsessively, they’d lose weight. Then life would happen and 19 out of 20 of them would gain it all back and then some. Worse off than before they trained with me, they were disappointed and I was frustrated. Everything I was taught as a trainer said that I was doing the right thing. But how could this conventional wisdom be right if it was failing 19 out of 20 times?

General Rule: If something fails more than 95% of the time, it’s not right.

Determined to help rather than hurt my clients, I decided to leave my job as a personal trainer and spend my time researching a sustainable approach to health and fitness.

Geeking My Way To Grok

Having exhausted conventional wisdom, I turned to the only resource I had left: Raw science. Not what magazines published. Not what the news reported. Just dense, dry, and difficult to acquire academic studies from all around the world. If an academic researcher didn’t write it in a peer-reviewed journal or in an email to me or explain it to me over the phone, I wasn’t interested in it. I wanted to know what the actual experts—aka scientists/researchers…people who spend their lives in labs vs. on television—had proven about long-term fat-loss and health.

Ten years of collaboration with top medical researchers around the world, over 1,100 studies, and more than 10,000 pages of scientific research later, I realized—to my surprise and delight—that the proven key to practical and permanent wellness is to eat more and exercise less—but smarter. I then picked up a copy of The Primal Blueprint and realized that a gentleman named Mark Sisson had also discovered this smarter science…and here we are today.

More and Mainstream Support for You

In my experience, those who go Primal know it’s right since the results speak for themselves. What I hope to do here and in future posts is to reinforce your resolve with massive collection of science previously unavailable to the public. As an added bonus, we’ve been fortunate enough to receive endorsements from world-wide scientific community including top doctors at the Harvard Medical School, Johns Hopkins, and UCLA, and have been approved as curriculum for registered dieticians (RDs) by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, so let’s just say that you’ll be quite equipped to assist those who haven’t yet seen the science.

Let’s get started.

The Best of the Ancient World Confirmed by the Best of Modern Science

Mark and I may use different words, but our about eating and exercise findings are essentially the same. Here’s a quick overview. I’ll dig more into the science in future posts.

Reprogramming Our Genes

Mark speaks to the body’s wisdom and desire to keep us healthy automatically. We didn’t evolve to be heavy and sick. My research confirms this by digging into the endocrine and neurological signals of the metabolic regulatory system that control how much we eat, how many calories we burn, and how much body fat we store. It also shows that when we “eat poisonous things,” this system gets clogged up and begins to regulate us around a higher set-point weight. Thus, long-term fat loss has nothing to do with counting calories and everything to do with restoring our body’s natural ability to regulate our weight appropriately.

Consider a study done at St. Joseph’s Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix, Arizona. Researchers examined both heavy and thin people to see how their metabolism behaved when they were given no calories. As expected, everyone’s system slowed down and everyone burned body fat, but here’s the kicker: Thin people burned off nearly 50% more body fat than heavy people.

Think about that for a second. Despite having more body fat, the heavy people burned less body fat. In the words of the researchers, “Obese patients could not take advantage of their most abundant fat fuel sources but have to depend on the efficient use of…the breakdown products of body protein [muscle].”

Where Patients’ Metabolisms Got Energy

The heavy people needed to burn body fat, but did not burn body fat effectively. This is just one of many clinical examples of losing our natural ability to regulate weight appropriately. The researchers put the problem like this: “Profound metabolic disturbances exist in the obese state that constantly interfere with normal hormonal responses [the ability to burn body fat].”

We don’t have to manually regulate breaths in and breaths out, nor do we have to manually regulate calories in and calories out, as long as we adhere to the ancient wisdom of our ancestors and modern wisdom of the most rigorous metabolic research available: Eat more—but higher quality food and do less—but higher quality exercise.

[The simplistic notion] that weight can be controlled by ‘deciding’ to eat less and exercise more…is at odds with substantial scientific evidence illuminating a precise and powerful biologic system that maintains body weight within a relatively narrow range.

– Dr. J.M. Friedman, Rockefeller University

Millions of naturally thin people and millions of years of evolution demonstrate that our body can keep us thin automatically. The key question is how can we “reprogram our genes” to make our bodies work more like the bodies of naturally thin people? There’s a lot of science showing us exactly how to do this. We just haven’t had access to it…until now.

Eat More High-Quality Food

Mark has soundly debunked the myth that “a calorie is a calorie,” and shows that food quality matters immensely. There’s no shortage of studies supporting this. The academic research community has long proven that the quality of a calorie depends on four factors:

  1. Satiety
  2. Aggression
  3. Nutrition
  4. Efficiency

Satiety is how quickly calories fill us up. Aggression is how likely calories are to be stored as body fat. Nutrition is how many vitamins, minerals, amino acids, essential fatty acids, etc., calories provide. Efficiency is how easily calories are converted into body fat. SANE—or high quality, fat burning, and health promoting foods—are rich in water, fiber, and protein and are the basis of a Primal lifestyle: non-starchy vegetables, seafood, meat, eggs, berries, citrus, nuts, seeds, etc.

More good news: Study after study confirm that we can achieve what Mark calls “effortless weight loss” by eating more of these SANE Primal foods. For example, in all of the studies that follow, everyone ate the exact same quantity of calories, but one group’s calories were of much higher quality (aka more Primal, more SANE):

  • University of Florida researcher J.W. Krieger analyzed 87 studies and found that those people who ate SANE calories lost an average of 12 more pounds of body fat compared to those who ate an equal quantity of lower quality calories.
  • C.M. Young at Cornell University split people into three groups, each eating 1,800 calories per day, but at different levels of quality. The highest-quality group lost 86.5% more body fat than the lowest-quality group.
  • In the Annals of Internal Medicine, F.L. Benoît compared a reduced-calorie low-quality diet to a reduced-calorie high-quality diet. After ten days the high-quality diet burned twice as much body fat.
  • Additional studies by researchers U. Rabast (1978,1981), P. Greene (2003), N.H. Baba (1999), A. Golay (1996), M.E. Lean (1997), C.M. Young (1971), and D.K. Layman (2003) all show that people who ate higher-quality calories lost an average of 22% more weight than those who ate the exact same quantity of lower-quality calories.

Heal Your Hormones

We all know about the importance of hormones when it comes to long-term wellness. We’re not alone. The most brilliant minds in the research community have proven that the sooner we heal our hormones, the sooner our body will do what it’s designed to do: keep us healthy and fit. Dr. P.J. Havel from the University of California presents the scientific explanation of how hormones handle our love handles:

Short-term signals are primarily from the GI tract (e.g., CCK and GI stretch receptors) and are involved in promoting sensations of satiety that lead to meal termination. These short-term signals by themselves are not sufficient to regulate energy balance and body adiposity. The long-term signals insulin and leptin are produced and circulate in proportion to recent energy intake and body adiposity. Together, the short- and long-term signals interact to regulate energy balance in that insulin and leptin appear to determine the sensitivity of the brain to the satiety-producing effects of the short-term signals from the GI tract.

In other words, our digestive system, muscle tissue, and fat tissue are constantly communicating with our nervous system and brain via hormones. As long as we do not interfere with this communication, millions of years of evolution ensure that our weight and health will take care of itself.

“Insidious fat gain,” as Mark calls it, occurs when we lose our natural ability to stay slim, that is, when our hormonal system breaks down. J. Le Magnen in the journal Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews puts it like this: “Humans that become obese gain weight because they are no longer able to lose weight.” Le Magnen’s statement is brilliant. Gaining body fat because we lost the ability to burn body fat thanks to straying from our primal blueprint and creating hormonal havoc is totally different than gaining body fat because we eat too much or exercise too little. And if we are gaining body fat because we’ve veered away from that blueprint, the solution is not to eat less or exercise more. It’s to move back in line with our ancestry by eating more and exercising less—but smarter.

Lift Heavy Things

These three primal words summarize thousands of pages of exercise physiology research. The science is clear: When it comes to ­long-term fat loss and health, we do not need to exercise more. We need to exercise smarter. We need to increase the quality/intensity of our exercise, not the quantity of our exercise. In fact, the higher the quality of our exercise, the less of it we can do. But more on that and resistance training in a later post. For now let’s focus on high-quality brief cardiovascular exercise…aka “sprinting once in a while.”

University of Virginia researcher B.A. Irving took two groups of women and had them do conventional low-quality cardiovascular exercise or high-quality brief cardiovascular exercise. The two groups burned the same number of calories exercising, but the high-quality brief cardiovascular exercise group spent significantly less time exercising while losing significantly more belly fat.

McMaster University researcher M. Gibala separated people into high quality brief cardiovascular exercise and traditional cardiovascular exercise groups. Over the course of the two-week study, the brief cardiovascular group exercised for two-and-a-half hours while the traditional cardiovascular exercise group exercised for ten-and-a-half hours. At the end of the study both groups got the same results even though the high-quality brief cardiovascular exercise group spent 320% less time exercising than the traditional cardiovascular exercise group. The researcher put it like this: “We thought there would be benefits, but we did not expect them to be this obvious. It shows how effective short intense exercise can be.”

Many more studies show the same encouraging results and further prove that hours of conventional exercise per week are not needed. Consider this small sample:

  • “Vigorous activities are associated with a reduced risk of coronary heart disease, whereas moderate or light activities have no clear association with the risk of coronary heart disease,” says H.D. Sesso at Harvard University.
  • “The intensity of effort was more important than the quantity of energy output in deterring hypertension and preventing premature mortality,” found R.S. Paffenbarger Jr. of Stanford University.
  • “There is an inverse association between relative intensity of physical activity and risk of coronary heart disease,” states I.M. Lee, also at Harvard University.
  • “Vigorous-intensity activities may have greater benefit for reducing cardiovascular disease and premature mortality than moderate-intensity physical activities,” noted the American Heart Association.
  • “Exercise training reduces the impact of the metabolic syndrome and that the magnitude of the effect depends on exercise intensity,” discovered P.M. Haram of the Norwegian University of Science and Technology.

Even day-to-day cardiovascular benefits like not being out of breath after walking up a few flights of stairs are achieved faster with high-quality exercise. Edward Coyle’s research at the University of Texas found: “Interval training in untrained people can markedly increase aerobic endurance…. This serves as a dramatic reminder of the potency of exercise intensity…. Interval training is very time efficient with much ‘bang for the buck.’” Old Dominion University researcher D.P. Swain adds: “Vigorous intensity exercise has been shown to increase aerobic fitness more effectively than moderate intensity exercise, suggesting that the former may confer greater cardioprotective benefits.”

Living Better Through Primal Thinking and Smarter Science

There’s a famous quote along the lines of dissatisfaction is the mother of innovation. Mark’s dissatisfaction led to The Primal Blueprint. My dissatisfaction led to The Smarter Science of Slim. Take our collective dissatisfaction with convention and add in Primal wisdom, modern science, the support of the world-wide scientific community, and a growing percentage of the mainstream dietetic community, and we should all be proud to be part of a movement that will leave a legacy as vital as the ancestral legacy we’re living.

Genes provide the blueprint, modern science confirms it, and now we get to live a life that will keep us healthy and slim practically and permanently. As we “honor our genes,” we can smile even bigger and let our eyes shine even brighter knowing that we have the single largest meta-analysis of wellness ever conducted supporting us, and that the mainstream will be along shortly.

Jonathan Bailor
The Smarter Science of Slim
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Kate M.
4 years 2 months ago

Great guest post.

Tim Huntley
4 years 2 months ago

That is a lot of research to plow through Jonathan – nice job man!

For those of you that are interested in digging into a scientific study, but don’t have the background, I wrote a multi-part article on how to read scientific research: http://myathleticlife.com/scientific-research-101-tutorial/

…Tim

Orielwen
4 years 2 months ago

This is a good summary, but doesn’t cite the sources with enough detail to enable us to look them up ourselves. Links to the PubMed abstracts would be ideal.

Graham
4 years 2 months ago

Second.

MOAR science!

Kate M.
4 years 2 months ago

You’re supposed to buy the book. Duh! 🙂

Richard
Richard
4 years 2 months ago

Well spotted Kate!

If you read the book, as I have done, it all comes across as carefully crafted to fill a marketing niche and achieve the maximum number of high profile endorsements – sadly not to be recommended.

Orielwen
4 years 2 months ago

Mark has a book too, and it doesn’t stop him from linking to his sources.

TokyoJarrett
4 years 2 months ago

Yeah, regardless, sources would definitely add credibility. And more credibility would help his book sales, so win-win really.

Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 2 months ago
“Tell me more, tell me more!” My history teacher used to quote Grease when instructing the class to be pedagogical with our essays. He demonstrated a Grok squat and said that the ancient Greeks could hold the position for hours so they could remain clean as they sat. Sometimes to snap everyone to attention he’d hammerfist the top of a desk and he frequently yelled, not angrily. He had some entertaining teaching tactics. According to a study ( article here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/247006-Confusion-can-be-beneficial-for-learning ) researchers “found that by strategically inducing confusion in a learning session on difficult conceptual topics, people actually learned… Read more »
em
em
4 years 2 months ago

Ah, the “Wait, WTF?” strategy.

Alain D,
Alain D,
4 years 2 months ago

very interesting and to the point.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Orielwen & Graham – All of the information shared here is covered in greater detail in the book, which provides detailed endnotes to the studies. Also, you can find the references online broken down by topic/blog post at the book’s site. For example:

SANE – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/eat-more-smarter/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie

Set-point weight – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/set-point-weight

I hope this helps. Thank you for your interest in the research!

– Jonathan Bailor

Andriy
Andriy
4 years 2 months ago

Jonathan has it in his book. Every statement in Smarter Science of Slim comes with a PubMed reference. Sound way over board, but he actually did it.

Ham-bone
Ham-bone
4 years 2 months ago

Just like my mentor always said, “Let the data drive the decisions”

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
4 years 2 months ago

Truly what is old becomes new again. I cannot wait until zubaz pants come back in vogue!

Tim
4 years 2 months ago
I’ll see your zubaz pants and raise you a Zardoz one-piece banana hammock/suspenders combo. Back on topic: This post made me sigh. One would think that trying multiple methods until something worked would naturally lead to an ancestrally centered approach (as is the case with the overwhelming majority of the success stories I have read on paleo blogs). Yet, rather than trust ourselves, we seek out authorities to tell us what the all mighty science says (which is what we already know). We have to see someone name dropping Harvard and Stanford before we pay attention. What is the purpose… Read more »
Max Ungar
4 years 2 months ago

Tim, I see where you are coming from. However, in this day and age, the only way that paleo will get recognition is through hard science. When it comes down to it, the paleo community wants to be able to help others find the path to healthiness.

The only way others can trust us, is to be backed by scientists, and bigger names. People can question Mark and Rob Wolff, and even Loren Cordain, but they can’t question Large scale, university studies.

Graham
4 years 2 months ago
For me, the big thing about having the science is not to shove it in the vegan’s face or bash someone for losing weight eating low-fat. I like to have these things to show the people who come to me with real questions and concerns about what is best for their health. I’ve found that when someone has a firm foundation on which to base their belief in their efforts, their weight comes off faster, healthier, and stays off. So, I’m with you, Tim, in that the dogma and “so there!” part of this kind of thing is annoying.
Tim
4 years 2 months ago
Every ‘side’ has their studies to tout, their links to show. Ask those in the oil industry what they think of climate science (it’s junk science). Ask McDougall what he thinks of studies that show the benefits of animal foods (it’s junk science) and then ask yourself what you think of the studies Mcdougall likes/links to. I didn’t end up here because of the studies Mark points to. I ended up here because my personal experiences with low carb showed me it was beneficial and I wanted to learn more. I’m expecting someone to call me anti-science or insinuate I’m… Read more »
Meesha
Meesha
4 years 2 months ago

I just finished reading Good Calories, Bad Calories and it seems clear that part of the reason we’re in this mess is because we listened to “experts”.
I’m torn on the whole “Paleo needs hard science” front. Yes, “proof” would be good, but I also think personal experience is very powerful. I personally don’t think science will ever “prove” Paleo, so I tend to think that personal experience is more important generally.
Yeah, I know that was a lot of quotes. 🙂

Liz
Liz
4 years 2 months ago

Tim, I tend to agree with you! What got me into paleo wasn’t science, it was a friend asking me to try paleo for 30 days. I was about to go vegetarian out of frustration seeing my energy and work-out strength continue on a downward spiral. It worked! I’m hooked.

With that said, I certainly do hope the science catches up with what we already know. I do get frustrated when I see the current food pyramid or trainers giving bad advice! I think only through the science community can we make a large scale change. Just my $.02!

Tam
4 years 2 months ago
Tim – I appreciate your point of view but I would stress that we SHOULD question large scale university studies; despite any scientist’s best efforts the science can become biased. In my research (for college coursework and for personal curiosity) I have found time and again that it pays to dig even DEEPER and discover WHY the research was conducted in the first place. I have found studies which–on the surface–were VERY convincing however when I discovered who funded the research all credibility was lost for me; for instance, can you really trust a paper asserting there is no such… Read more »
Nicole
Nicole
4 years 2 months ago

I don’t think this post is so much for us (Primal and loving life), but for those still in doubt and thinking about going Primal.

I still enjoyed reading it, though.

Ma Flintstone
Ma Flintstone
4 years 2 months ago

Yeah, I was wondering if I should post it to a doctor friend. Doctor “friend”. He’s more likely to double-take if he see’s all the credential-bashing.
Or not.

Pirate Jenny
Pirate Jenny
4 years 2 months ago

Agreed Nicole – this is a nice gateway article into the paleo mindset – for those that need ‘Science’ to hold their hands past the scary notion that there’s more to getting fit and healthy than counting calories, diet coke and hours of treadmill…

I posted it on Facebook and the floodgates of Friday afternoon debatage appear to be opening…

Ben
Ben
4 years 2 months ago

We name-drop because that is the only thing people listen to… who is going to listen to an argument made by a guy who posited a blog on a random website?

When somebody is skeptical and being bombarded by info on all fronts, the only way to get their attention is to demonstrate: “This guy is an expert. Here are his credentials. Here is what he says, and how he can make that claim”

Susie
4 years 2 months ago
I agree. The problem of veracity isn’t within the group of believers. That’s a case of “preachin’ to the choir.” The dilemma is in shifting a 35+ year paradigm of unwellness. The advantages of having recognition and support from people in, ahem, so called, “esteemed positions of authority” is mainly in being able to shift nutritional dogma and paradigms but even more,shifting nutritional POLICY. Here’s a real-world example of what I’m referring to: I went to a mainstream nutritionist on the advice of my internist to receive counsel on my “so called unbalanced” style of eating. The nutritionist informed me… Read more »
Tim
4 years 2 months ago

Argumentum ad Authoritatum. People with letters after their name and special titles, I’ve met many of them. I even have a few myself, but I’d much rather trust my own feelings and my own body, than the pronouncements of an ‘expert’ but maybe that’s just me. Generally when I hear or see credentials being tossed around I assume someone is planning to sell me something.

-Tim

Kiki
Kiki
4 years 2 months ago

Tim, your comment makes me think of an old “In Living Color” skit where people are dropping titles. One guy speaks up and says, “I once got VD in DC”. 😉

Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 2 months ago

“Argumentum ad Authoritatum. People with letters after their name and special titles, I’ve met many of them.”

One of the things I respect Mark for is the fact he has a Ph.D in biology but doesn’t call himself Dr. Sisson, Ph.D.

DarkStar
DarkStar
4 years 2 months ago
It’s not a fallacious appeal to authority to say “look, this guy who is actually skilled in the relevant areas of expertise has published, peer-reviewed, and accepted scientific papers that support claim X and the results have been independently replicated and others skilled in these areas do not have substantive claims that the findings or methodologies are in error”. That is what science is all about, when it’s done correctly. And no, not all science is done correctly. Just because a paper is published does not mean it is correct. But it is extremely difficult, as a layperson, to do… Read more »
Adam
Adam
4 years 2 months ago
I agree that name-dropping is important. If not to entice others to at least read one’s scientific claims, then to add credibility to the claim itself. Authority does not cause credibility, but there is a correlation – I would trust a Harvard researcher more than just some average joe, unless Joe can go to greater lengths to prove his scientific ability. As for Marky-Mark, correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe he has a BS in Biology from Williams, not a PhD. He has, however, proved his worth by constant reference-citing and measured analyses of data (like not saying… Read more »
Decaf Debi
Decaf Debi
4 years 2 months ago
I think the science is important to non-believers because they have heard so much erroneous “science” over the last few decades that is not CW in our society. For example, I can tell someone that I was a CW super-healthy vegetarian for 25 years, but after switching to a paleo diet, I effortlessly lost 15 pounds that I thought were a natural part of aging and ended up with more energy than ever. But invariable their reply is, “Sure you look better and feel better NOW but in 10 years you’ll be dead from clogged arteries from all that fatty… Read more »
Joanne
Joanne
4 years 2 months ago
For people who are unsure about the best way to be healthy, or who are used to looking to experts, I think it helps to have a person in authority, who has data to back them up, assert that something like a paleo diet has benefits that are measureable, and predictable. I am a person who tries things for myself to see how I feel doing/eating XYZ, and I venture to say many commenters here are the same. Many people are not like this though; they don’t want to do something that will damage their health in the long run… Read more »
Casey
Casey
4 years 2 months ago
Relax. Name dropping a bunch of scientists is not like name dropping someone famous. Science is essential to develop a broader understanding of our universe and ourselves. I think this post speaks more to the fact that scientists are discovering what should have always been obvious (but modern times has forgotten), and less about name dropping to prove something to vegans. This is good news because one day this will start translating to better medicine and a better health system. We need science to investigate and understand this lifestyle so that the knowledge can be passed on. I’m sorry, some… Read more »
Tim
4 years 2 months ago
I’m quite relaxed actually. I have no quarrel with science as a process and/or method. It us a very useful tool. My issue is with how people use science. For some it is a method of self promotion. “See? I can link to all these people with letters after their name, I’m important and so are my ideas, because these expert letter laden people believe like I do.” For others it is a sword to slash at others arguments. “Ha! Take that you with your bogus single blind study link… I shall one up you with THIS much better link… Read more »
Victor Venema
4 years 2 months ago
Tim, every diet/lifestyle has its crowd with enthusiastic followers with their success stories. Furthermore, personal experience is nice, but it does not tell you how you will feel in a decade or so. Fruitarians are enthusiastic about eating only fruits and short term it is probably an improvement only in the long term you start missing the fat dissolved vitamins as the body has large stores of them. Are you prepared to life in every aspect the way our ancestors lived? I must say, I like modern life. We need science to tell us which aspects of ancestral life are… Read more »
Victor Venema
4 years 2 months ago

That being said, the guest post was a bit too much name dropping to me. Science is not about authority, it counts whether you are right, not what title you have.

josh
josh
4 years 2 months ago
@Tim – so basically you’re telling any doubters to try it themselves in order to prove that it works. you point to yourself as proof that it works, because you did it and it worked. maybe you point to all the people who write in and comment on MDA as proof. so… what’s so bad about having some other well-documented groups people who it worked for? what is so different about expecting somebody to be convinced based on seeing something work for some test group of 100 people vs expecting them to be convinced based on the results of your… Read more »
Tim
4 years 2 months ago
Josh, I’d say you used the words ‘prove’ and ‘proof’ a few too times for my liking. I’m not trying to prove anything. I point to myself and say that it worked for me only to help the other person have hope and consider trying it for themselves. Will it work for them? I don’t know, they aren’t me, but I think it’s worth a shot. And even if it doesn’t end up working for them (for any number of reasons) those weeks where they buy grass fed beef will help support a few local farmers and I can’t say… Read more »
Agi
Agi
4 years 2 months ago
I dont remember where I read it, but someone once likened modern nutrition science with surgery during the Renaissance (or something to that effect). We are still pretty much in the dark and there is alot of conjecture. We are going to make alot of mistakes on the way. But ultiately it’s for the good becuase the beauty of science is that it will always correct itself in the long run. Nutrition is an especially difficult topic to research i think because there are so many variables involved. At this point it’s probably best to make educated guesses and find… Read more »
em
em
4 years 2 months ago
Tim, I know a number of women who are starving themselves on low-fat, high carb, fake food diets and burning out on cardio because they believe Calories In / Calories Out. These are beautiful women who are fat or skinny fat or ashen and haggard beyond their years; they are depressed and anxious, and tortured by “their” “failure” to just eat less or exercise more. I’m still morbidly obese (but everyone tells me I don’t look anywhere near 35), so I’m not exactly a poster child for success (yet!). These articles aren’t about smug points for me. They are about… Read more »
Tim
4 years 2 months ago

Hi em,

I completely agree with helping people, women, men, children, all trapped like hamsters in the perpetual wheel of ‘eat eat eat, run run run, eat eat eat’, they all need help. I’m only trying to say that how we deliver a message can be as important as the message we deliver, even more so.

That said, there are some for whom loads of links to Hardvards and Stanfords and is exactly what they’re looking for from a website. More power to them I suppose.

-Tim

em
em
4 years 2 months ago
Tim, EXACTLY. These are stubborn women who pride themselves on their nutrition knowledge and healthy choices, and have never been forced to re-evaluate what they think they know. They’re unwilling to experiment on themselves, because “everyone knows…” tautology. Eat more, do less seems like an outrageously extraordinary claim, so they hold out for extraordinary evidence. An article like this, with the appeals to authority, is precisely the sort of thing they’re holding out for. Until then, I might as well be a climate change denier. Oh that em, and her crackpot theories… she’s going to kill herself… I feel so… Read more »
em
em
4 years 2 months ago

Also, now I feel nostalgic for my hamster. She died a few months ago. We fed her all our left over organic whole grains, and she lived a nice long healthy hamster life. Heart healthy whole grains ftw! 😉

Kathy
Kathy
4 years 2 months ago

I followed paleo with my heart, and have been spectacularly successful. My spouse, while supportive, wants to see the science. I dont care which route you take- filled with emotion or reason or something in between. Just join us!

Amy
Amy
4 years 2 months ago
The percentage of people who don’t read any dietary info at all other than what literature is in their doctors waiting room would probably be surprising. I would always ask my Mom, does your doctor tell you anything about diet or exercise? She has rheumatoid arthritis, my Dad has ankylosing spondylitis, brother, he has psoriatic arthritis, WTF! They all go to the same rheumatologist. I have always been an outside person, running, walking, cycling sports in the sun, maybe that has helped me not wind up like them. Anyway, after I discovered primal and realized so many personal bennies I… Read more »
Red
Red
4 years 2 months ago
Yea, I understand your point of view. It was in fact the disgust I felt at the bazillions of “doctor experts”, all of whom disagree on a whole boatload of subjects that caused me to toss my volumnous and extremely deep library of “diet” books and physiology studies – and go with my own personal physical reactions after having undergone a cleanse. Since no doctor can predict what the combination of factors: age, physiology, personality, current medicines, and food intake can do to our bodies – they can only surmise based on some numbers of study results gauged and exponentially… Read more »
David Cole
David Cole
4 years 2 months ago
“One would think that trying multiple methods until something worked would naturally lead to an ancestrally centered approach (as is the case with the overwhelming majority of the success stories I have read on paleo blogs). This is a false statement. All the success stories specifically credit Mark or others for their turnaround. Mark’s principles are thoroughly grounded in science via studies and observation. He has changed his stance on various things based on science. Perhaps you are new to MDA but it’s very science driven. As you are a “dystopic writer” it makes sense that you would take an… Read more »
Ted
Ted
4 years 2 months ago

I can’t wait for this! got my pair stashed deep in the closet waiting for their revival

Donna J.
Donna J.
4 years 2 months ago

To Susie above…

I thoroughly understand the problem of responding or seeking advise from a nutritionist. By the way, a nutritionist and a Registered Dietition are very different by way of lots more education required of the Registered Dietition.

Having said all that, my daughter is a Registered Dietition and I battle her daily concerning the Paleo/Hunter Gatherer lifestyle.

Hopefully, after years of testimonials going to their local nutritionist or Registered Dietition with their own personal health journey, maybe just maybe, all the “health guru’s” will start to listen and see the overwhelming results in this lifestyle.

Susie
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Donna! Yes, he is an RD, PhD…blah, blah, blah and not to besmirch his name,nor cast derogatory aspersions on professional letters, but having met him, I’m pretty sure he would be one of the guys out there dropping cred to which someone would reply, “Hey, I once got VD in DC!” 🙂

Mike
Mike
4 years 2 months ago

Wait, what? They went out of style? Next thing they will be telling me my mullett likes out of place

Trav
Trav
4 years 2 months ago

The mullet isn’t a hairstyle, it’s a way of life, according to Jared Allen.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
4 years 2 months ago

You hit the nail on the head Trav, it is a lifestyle. So is wearing a matching velour jump suit with sandals. (Which I do- all black with a white pin stripe on the sides. It’s more of a late fall outfit. For added class, say out for a Sunday morning brunch on a crisp day, I wear my tuxedo t-shirt under the zip up top. Often worn with sandals. No socks! Socks with sandals, now THAT is a major fashion faux pas).

mars
mars
4 years 2 months ago

+1

Elenor
Elenor
4 years 2 months ago

“Socks with sandals, now THAT is a major fashion faux pas).”

Depends on where you live — in Seattle?! It’s de rigeur!

Andrew
Andrew
4 years 2 months ago

History repeats itself and we can always learn from it. The past is a wonderful thing to learn from. You only learn from your past experiences.

ZippyChick
ZippyChick
4 years 2 months ago

Paleo Bon–

I had to look up what Zubaz pants are! They’re great! Think I’m going to buy some…..maybe we can launch a resurgence…

Nikhil Hogan
4 years 2 months ago

Awesome!

Ma Flintstone
Ma Flintstone
4 years 2 months ago

All class.

Kristina
Kristina
4 years 2 months ago

“Endorsed by the world-wide scientific community including top doctors at the Harvard Medical School, John Hopkins, and UCLA, and approved as curriculum for registered dieticians (RDs) by the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics…”

This makes me so happy.

Ben
Ben
4 years 2 months ago

Now, we just need to get people to listen to the experts, not their next-door neighbor or the guy in Men’s Health magazine.

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Groktimus Primal
4 years 2 months ago

Guest posts are often hit or miss but this one was an out-of-the-park hit!

zack
zack
4 years 2 months ago

I wanted to do a back flip after reading this.

jensen
jensen
4 years 2 months ago

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Backflip

here’s a helpful tutorial to get you started on doing backflips. i’m sure mark approves of having fun while exercising. remember to be careful and use a spotter!

Max Ungar
4 years 2 months ago

“eat more and exercise less” love it.

One question though, you say you did all of this scientific research, and read all fo these scientific papers. Had you heard of the paleo/primal approach before you started your research? If so, were you against it? You say you were a personal trainer with CW on your side. Did this effect your pre-researched view on paleo/primal? How so?

Awesome Post.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago
Hi Max – Thank you. I had not. I started this research over a decade ago…so it was a bit before primal/paleo became as pervasive as it is today. My first exposure to it was the work of S. Boyd Eaton, Marjorie Shostak and Melvin Konner Regarding my pre-researched view: One of the reasons I am now so passionate about sharing this research is because of how different it is from the CW I was taught as a trainer. I was telling my clients to eat less and exercise more and leaving them worse off than when they started. This… Read more »
JennaRose
JennaRose
4 years 2 months ago

Fantastic article!

Graham
4 years 2 months ago

I’ve always thought that deciding to eat less was like deciding to have less blood or deciding to keep sleeping once you’re wide awake or deciding to have more money…

Elenor
Elenor
4 years 2 months ago

+10!

Primal Toad
4 years 2 months ago

This was so awesome. It sounds like Jonathan will be a regular guest poster in the coming weeks?

I can not wait to learn more. This is exciting stuff!

Helen
4 years 2 months ago

Interesting acronym: SANE – considering I was always insanely hungry eating a low-fat high-carb “eat less, exercise more” diet. Gross!

Hello delicious, body shredding fats 🙂

Cat
4 years 2 months ago

Loved this – concise, clear and very well-researched. Hooray to eating better and exercising smarter. They should print this in school textbooks.

cTo
4 years 2 months ago

This is really great, but I REALLY want to see the citations of these articles/studies.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Hi cTo – Thank you so much for your kind words.

All of the information shared here is covered in greater detail in the book, which provides detailed endnotes to the studies. Also, you can find the references online broken down by topic/blog post at the book’s site. For example:

SANE – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/eat-more-smarter/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie

Set-point weight – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/set-point-weight

Thank you for your interest in the research!

– Jonathan Bailor

Carol
Carol
4 years 2 months ago

I believe it, but need the references please.

Pure Hapa
Pure Hapa
4 years 2 months ago

He does have a book out you can buy. Since he has done a lot of work, those who want to see the data links can support him by purchasing the book, just as I support Mark, Robb Wolf and others.

John
John
4 years 2 months ago

Great post Jonathan …looking forward to future posts.

Trav
Trav
4 years 2 months ago

Short duration, high intensity activities- weightlifting, sprints, etc. Less chronic cardio.

Donna J.
Donna J.
4 years 2 months ago
Well, I don’t know when Mark actually started his research so he really may be leading the way, but Dr. Gundry’s Diet Evolution was written almost 10 years ago. Dr. Gundry, a notable heart surgeon and inventor of a special heart pump, did his own journey of research for heart health, losing weight and going very Primal. I just wish any of these “newcomers” that are “spring boarding” their “new, I discovered a better way of eating and it’s Paleo” give Credit where Credit is due in research and who really was a forerunner of this information. I follow Mark… Read more »
Orielwen
4 years 2 months ago

I don’t care who was first. Mark is reasoned, informative and inspiring. That’s what counts with me.

em
em
4 years 2 months ago

Word.

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
4 years 2 months ago

If what you say IS true than there is only ONE way to choose a winner.

[Channeling my inner Billy Zane]: It’s a walk-off!

Mary
Mary
4 years 2 months ago
I work at UCLA and participate in their employee health improvement program. Through the program is how I found this site (and I am eternally grateful to my employer!!). After nearly 10 weeks of “boot camp,” I’ve learned for myself what the benefits are of quality exercise as well as the benefits of going primal with my diet (cutting out wheat, especially!) It’s great to have studies to back it, but honestly, doesn’t eating whole, non-processed, chemical/hormone free foods and exercising in short bursts with a “heavier” load make sense? Sure beats counting points on Weight Watchers while stuffing my… Read more »
Draz
Draz
4 years 2 months ago

I eat less eating primal than any other way. Sometimes I find it hard to eat 2000 calories but, like they said, quality counts. I’m never hungry, have tons of energy, and feel great. Even on days that I only end up eating 1000 calories. I know primal is the way to go just from doing it, but I like to have these study’s to prove to my friends and family that I’m not going to have a stroke or heart attack from “all that terrible food.”

Kati
Kati
4 years 2 months ago

Not enough citations and no mention of the role of dietary fat in SANE acronym…avoidance on purpose? Please advise. 🙂

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago
Hi Kati – Thank you for your interest in my research. Regarding citations: All of the information shared here is covered in greater detail in the book, which provides detailed endnotes to the studies. Also, you can find the references online broken down by topic/blog post at the book’s site. For example: SANE – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/eat-more-smarter/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie & Set-point weight – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/set-point-weight There are many chapters in the book that cover the critical role of natural fats in a SANE diet…my apologies for not being able to include that info here. There is also a lot more info on fats on the… Read more »
Hunter
Hunter
4 years 2 months ago

Loved the guest post, but there was a small repeated grammatical error. While John Hopkins is a fine name, the are actually spelt Johns(notice the extra s) Hopkins. And while it seems unbelievable, his parents really did decide to call him that…

mars
mars
4 years 2 months ago

Is “spelt” a word?

lol

em
em
4 years 2 months ago

Yes. British variant. Also, a grain.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Hunter – Thank you for catching that. Fixed! 🙂 – Jonathan Bailor

Erica
Erica
4 years 2 months ago

Gosh, I would sure like to see a link to the the “single largest meta-analysis of health and fitness ever conducted.” Or at least the title of the study and the journal where it was publushed, Without that info, I’m sorry, but this whole article comes across as a little skeevy.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Erica – A bit more background can be found at: http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/background

I hope this helps.

– Jonathan Bailor

Erica
Erica
4 years 2 months ago

*published*

Kris
Kris
4 years 2 months ago

Shared — had to keep myself from being preachy on FB, but if a couple of people read it and the message truly resonates with 1 person, I’ll call it a success!

Jeffrey P. Leake M.D.
Jeffrey P. Leake M.D.
4 years 2 months ago

I’d be more impressed if you actualy listed the specific references, rather than saying ” a study done at”.
Some of us actually like to go over the specific methods and data to confirm the quality of the data.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Thank you for all of your kind words and wonderful comments! 🙂

I will reply more usefully asap…in the meantime, references can be found:

– In total: http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/the-book/bibliography/

– Broken down by topic: in the book & in relevant blogs…for example:
SANE – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/eat-more-smarter/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/
Set-point weight – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/set-point-weight/

Thank you again and I will be back asap. – Jonathan Bailor

lockard
lockard
4 years 2 months ago

CrossFit? a solid 10 min workout with plenty of intensity using major lifts and some gymnastic type moves? anybody else think this?

Graham
4 years 2 months ago

Of course! but it doesn’t have to be the brand name (if that makes the haters feel better).

lockard
lockard
4 years 2 months ago

Vigorous-intensity activities… CrossFit

Paleo Bon Rurgundy
4 years 2 months ago
I occasionally Cross Fit. They say it is for everyone but that is not true. If you are really fit and want to compete with ours, okay, cool. If you don’t give a hoot about competing against others and work at your own pace then also cool. If you are the average joe and not really fit then I say no- even WITH the mandated ON-RAMP. Why? Lack of flexibility. Weak tendons and joints. Too much too fast. AMRAPs will destroy you. Cost. For real strength and conditioning- not to mention affordable- that you can do almost anywhere is with… Read more »
Becky
Becky
4 years 2 months ago
I don’t want to post too many replies, so I am limiting myself to this one, regarding your Side Note … one of the main points of CrossFit is scalability. When I do AMRAPS, I realize up front that I am nowhere near fit enough to do them as quickly as some other folks do. What I *can* do is *my* best. I can follow my coach’s advice and instructions. I can do more than I think I can, but she actually does know my limits and makes sure I’m safe. Maybe your experience with CrossFit has been at a… Read more »
lockard
lockard
4 years 2 months ago

I can respect your feelings on CrossFit – however I don’t want CrossFit to get a bad rep so here are $.02- part of CrossFit is knowing where your at and not going too far to the point of hurting yourself- like you said any gym/workout has the possibility to cause injury- and yes it is costly – i have been trained be the “experts” and now do it on my own to avoid the cost- you will see me doing pull-ups from the lil kids swing set and box jumps on the picnic tables in the local park

Pastor Dave
4 years 2 months ago

Awesome analysis of what Mark has already discovered! My biggest challenge is lifting heavy things although I do like to hoist the wife occasionally! (125lbs)

Yes I’m a pastor and yes I am not at all prudish– I have preached to my congregation of heavyweights about walking, sprinting, and even not bringing carb laden dishes to the church potlucks. So far they have not totally repented but neither have they defrocked me and chased me from teh pulpit!

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Sarah
Sarah
4 years 2 months ago

Someone! Please! Post list or links to mentioned studies… NEED SCIENCE …HURRRY.

THIS ARTICLE NEEDS CITATIONS!!!!

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Sarah – All of the information shared here is covered in greater detail in the book, which provides detailed endnotes to the studies. Also, you can find the references online broken down by topic/blog post at the book’s site. For example:

SANE – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/eat-more-smarter/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie

Set-point weight – http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/category/set-point-weight

Thank you for your interest in the research!

– Jonathan Bailor

Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 2 months ago

Eating primal for the last year and a half has improved my health immensely even though I’ve spent that time living like it’s all one continuous party, much of it spent scraping a living on the streets. That’s enough proof for me.
People used to say things like, “You do oxys or something eh?” Not so anymore. Occasionally I get told I look healthy and get compliments on my physique and climbing / maneuvering in nature skills. Going to the beach is a self-esteem enhancing experience these days. 😉

DarcieG
DarcieG
4 years 2 months ago

Something that bothers me about this, though, is that he doesn’t say a single word about the benefits of moving frequently at a slow pace. And this is made more confusing by the comparison of high-intensity to low-to-moderate intensity exercise. If I didn’t read Mark’s stuff, I’d assume he meant that we should do only interval training and nothing else.

Adam
Adam
4 years 2 months ago
Maybe in the book he addresses it? I think this post is more centered on the health benefits that run contrary to CW – just about everyone agrees walking is great. For weight loss and cardiovascular health, however, the old adage was that long and moderately intense exercises would give the best results. I think he preferentially focused on that (and the eat less to lose more lie) to highlight what real exercise should consist of. Low-level activity, by definition, doesn’t stress the body enough to really be “exercise”, so I think that’s why it is not mentioned here. But… Read more »
Stacie
Stacie
4 years 2 months ago

I only wish I could have read something like this 3 or 4 years ago…but now that I DO know I’m taking full advantage. I think we have a long way to go before the general public will accept this, but this is a step forward. Thanks to both you and Mark for all the work you do…it’s so comforting to know that SOMEONE out there actually cares about our health!

JonnyPrimal
JonnyPrimal
4 years 2 months ago

To be honest I think Jonathan is a step BETWEEN Conventional Wisdom and Primal. Jonathan is saying “cut out processed food” but he’s also saying “avoid animal fat”. I think it would be a step backwards for Primal people to start following Jonathan but would perhaps be an easier way of getting more people off the SAD diet in the first place. I’d call it Semi-SAD personally.

CMHFFEMT
4 years 2 months ago

Great post. Glad to see another person brought primal by science.

rob
rob
4 years 2 months ago

Kind of thing that leaves you scratching your head

Dave
Dave
4 years 2 months ago

My wifes grandma died a few years back and as we were going through her old recipes, I found a 3×5 card with a paleo/low carb diet written on it. It was for weight loss. The date was something like 1948. I cracked up. Nothing new under the sun. Oh, she lived to be 100 yrs.old. Older then Jack Lalane. Go figure.

Jen
Jen
4 years 2 months ago

My mom and grandma have always cut carbs when they wanted to lose weight. They’d just not eat potatoes or pasta or bread with dinner. Transitioning into Paleo for me seemed a logical extention of what they knew all the time.

Ms. Zing
Ms. Zing
4 years 2 months ago
Hi. I enjoyed Mr. Bailor’s post and am quite glad for the street cred of the endorsements from major scientific institutions. However, it is unclear whether the studies meta-analyzed were looking at whole food natural, lower carb, grain free diets or CW plus more protein, veggies, and fruit? I’m guessing due to the relative dearth of the former, that the studies meta-analyzed were generally of the latter type diet. Would this confound results for using it to promote the SoS or PB approach? Just curious, even if that was the case, it still sounds like a great study and it… Read more »
Animanarchy
Animanarchy
4 years 2 months ago

Ingesting refined sugar requires the utilization of micronutrients. It stands to reason ingesting refined fat or protein would too.

Ms. Zing
Ms. Zing
4 years 2 months ago

That does make sense as oils are more refined than fat in whole foods. I would assume this is worse the more processed the oil and type of oil and perhaps the author refers more to the highly processed and damaged PUFAs and resultant trans fats (at high heat) of seed, soy, and vegetable oils. I generally think of cold-pressed olive oil, coconut oil and grass fed butter as healthy.

Jonathan Bailor
4 years 2 months ago
Dan
Dan
4 years 2 months ago

Hi Jonathan, I’m a bit confused. In that FAQ you linked, you say to use as little butter as possible, and also to have 4-6 meals a day. You also mention using low-fat Greek yogurt; you say full-fat milk is inSANE while skim milk is okay; you’re arguing for lean meats (chicken breasts?)… none of this stuff strikes me as being very primal.

em
em
4 years 2 months ago

Bailor’s recommendations may not be Primal, but are they Primal enough…? There is disagreement about the fat content of paleolithic diets. And there is also some evidence that some people respond better to fat restriction than carb restriction (Google “genotype-appropriate diet”). If Bailor’s data backs up 60% percent of strict Primal tenets, that’s more in common than not. No need to go splitting hairs — especially not on a diet that emphasizes self-experimentation and customization over strict adherence.

Dan
Dan
4 years 2 months ago

Sorry, the title of this post is: “Ancient Wisdom Confirmed by Modern Science”. Seems to me the only primal thing about SANE is that he’s recommending carbohydrate-reduction, but other than that there’s almost no convergence. He even states that vegetarians can be SANE, and if that’s primal I no longer know what is primal.

em
em
4 years 2 months ago
Let me try again. Bailor’s point is that Calories In / Calories Out isn’t the whole picture, and creating a calorie deficit doesn’t work. I think that message is important enough (and Primal enough) on its own. So he recommends a different diet. Loren Cordain recommends a different diet, and so does WAPF. It doesn’t bother me. We have Primal folks who can’t do dairy even as a sensible indulgence and Paleo guys (Robb Wolf!) who do. You gotta find what works for YOU… But people never will if they’re stuck on a completely erroneous model of nutrition and weight… Read more »
mars
mars
4 years 2 months ago

“Note: Eating reduced fat/low-fat anything is only desirable if the fat is not replaced with sugar. Low-fat food that is chock-full of sugar is terrible for health and fat loss.”

lol.. don’t eat low fat dairy then.

Greg
Greg
4 years 2 months ago

Both Cordain and Wolf, stress “lean meat” and even Mark’s book avoids the whole “fat burner” issue. I suspect it is a bow to CW to avoid being compared to Atkins.
I thought this article was perfect for sharing on Facebook, and I did.

merryish
merryish
4 years 2 months ago
I checked out the first page of the book, and this is in the forward: “For example, we’ve published papers from the Nurse’s Health Study indicating that at least 90% of cases of type 2 diabetes and at least 80% of heart attacks can be prevented by lifestyle changes, including being physically active, maintaining a healthy weight, and following a diet high in fruits, vegetables and *whole grains*, and *low in saturated* and trans fats and refined carbohydrates.” (emphasis mine) That doesn’t exactly sound like the medical community has embraced the Primal Blueprint to me. It doesn’t sound very different… Read more »
BJML
BJML
4 years 2 months ago

I found the portion of the forward you quoted as I was starting to read the book. I note that it refers to older papers published by the author of the forward, not previous or current papers by Jonathon Bailor. I will continue to read the book before deciding that this is just CW in disguise.

JonnyPrimal
JonnyPrimal
4 years 2 months ago

Read on only a few pages and you’ll find recommendations to consume no/low fat cottage cheese, no/low fat greek yoghurt and lean meat. Eek, what’s Mark doing allowing this guy space on The Apple?

mars
mars
4 years 2 months ago

As a researcher and confirmed data geek AND 100% Primal, I sincerely appreciate this article. Well written!

JonnyPrimal
JonnyPrimal
4 years 2 months ago

If you’re 100% Primal then you won’t appreciate this article once you read the book!

mars
mars
4 years 2 months ago

Yeah.. I’m not understanding the recommendations for low fat dairy and 40/20/20 either… hmmmm

Tarantula
Tarantula
4 years 2 months ago

This guy is OBNOXIOUS! Is he even qualified to conduct such a rigorous scientific analysis (if it can even be called that)? The fact that he doesn’t even site his sources is a terrible sign (please at least correct this if you can before the academic integrity lords get too angry). Why would we need his book when we have Mark’s?

Isaac Warbrick
4 years 2 months ago

Great Read. I’ve always tried to help my clients and students see that short bouts of high-intensity exercise is so much more effective for health and ‘fitness’ than the long and grueling stuff (who wants to be exercising all day anyway?!)

greg midzak
greg midzak
4 years 2 months ago

Where can I find a ADA Accredited University that approves of, or teaches the grain-free way? When I was first interested in becoming a RD, I was discouraged by multiple (closet primal) Dieticians that said it wasn’t possible as a RD to suggest that grains are unhealthy…. Did I miss something?

BJML
BJML
4 years 2 months ago
I did buy the book, assuming all the references would be provided therein. I’m making a couple of assumptions here-the first of which is that Mark is a pretty savvy guy. One can’t just jump on MDA and make a big post like this-I have to assume that Mark put him on. Given that, I have found Mark to be a reasonable person who would not put a grain preaching guru in this blog. So, I will read Mr. Bailor’s book in the hopes it will provide exactly what’s promised-some scientific research to back up primal claims. Secondly, I have… Read more »
Jennifer
4 years 2 months ago

Jonathan Bailor you are HOT! lol. Are you single? If you are ever in south western Ohio look me up 😉 (jenniferk29 at gmail)

Ma Flintstone
Ma Flintstone
4 years 2 months ago

Brunch in Bon R’s outfit.

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