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21 Nov

A Midweek Kick in the Pants

Do it!Every Friday I love highlighting stories about men and women who took the challenge and transformed their lives. Whatever their circumstances (e.g. diabetes, obesity, chronic autoimmune conditions), they grabbed hold of the Primal process and made it their own. Whether they went cold turkey or began in fits and starts, they eventually committed 100% and got the life they wanted. It doesn’t get any better than that. That’s why I wonder so much about folks who come to MDA on a regular basis but never really get so far as to implement the content in their own lives. Whether it’s information about low (or even moderate) carbing, moving frequently, standing workstations, going barefoot or relishing good natural fat, their interest never translates into action.

I’ll call them earnest lurkers. They’re regular readers and enjoy the community here, but somehow the rubber never meets the road. Sound familiar? (No need to slink back in your chair – seriously.) They enjoy what they read, but then they sort of ignore/forget about it and go back to doing the same old thing. So, they come back for more inspiration and a few more ideas. So armed, they muster up a little more resolve but then never quite get things off the ground. It becomes an ongoing passive cycle. Maybe they’re doing some parts right like surrounding themselves with positive influences (e.g. the MDA community) and learning about how to live healthily – Primally. Yet, they never really make the plunge and stay content to dabble.

You’ve of course heard the old saying about “&%@# or get off the pot.” I’m not suggesting anyone stop reading MDA or not look to this forum or other like-minded communities for support and inspiration. However, there’s a certain confusion about one’s intent if you keep coming back for something you never take on. What’s keeping you at a polite (and thoroughly ineffective) distance?

I think people in this situation often run the risk of self-identification by mere association. In other words, you can read about something for so long that you end up feeling like you’re a true blue follower even though you’re more of a passive onlooker. Although I appreciate anyone’s readership, the fact remains that the Primal Blueprint doesn’t happen by osmosis. Ultimately, it’s a crying shame because instead of nodding in agreement, you could be feeling amazing at this very minute. The PB isn’t an intellectual exercise. It’s a blueprint for living, and either you’re living it – or you’re not.

Let me say I’m not picking on anyone. The truth is, I think we all at some point in our lives need a swift kick. For whatever reason there’s a psychic blockage that we can’t snap ourselves out of. After weeks or months or years (or decades) of denial, someone calls us out in a way that first gets our dander up but ultimately shifts the ground enough for real change.

Nor am I talking about unquestioning compliance with every suggested activity.

As someone who devoutly questions authority, I don’t ever encourage obedience just on principle. (That’s why I designed a blueprint and not a regimen.) What I’m talking about is grabbing the ball and running with it instead of sitting in the stands time and again watching it go from place to place – observing other people’s game instead of pursuing your own. What’s the point, really?

At the heart of this hemming and hawing or general passivity lurk a few motivations, I believe. Sure, one can be sheer laziness: I want to show up and enjoy the community but not do the actual work. The thing is, those people eventually seem to float elsewhere over time. If you’re reading but consistently coming back, I think there’s something deeper at play. Call it self-directed stone-walling, an inward withholding from yourself – of better health and a better life.

Address whatever is going on – the nonsense about I’m not capable or I don’t deserve the good life in the same way other people do or it’s never really going to happen that way for me. Bull. Dump the self-defeating attitude. Resolve to end the self-sabotage. (Seriously, accept it for that.) Analyze it if you will, but the point is to move on even if you have to fake it until you make it. Fake the confidence if you don’t feel quite worthy. Fake the motivation if you feel (or even know) that you’re 100% lazy. Fake the self-image if you think on some subterranean level that you shouldn’t and won’t ever be thin/healthy/successful/happy. Faking it will at times hurt. It will take energy. It might even take more energy than working out and lifting the chopping knife to make yourself that Big A$$ Salad you’ve always meant to make for lunch. No matter. Work your own sense of worthiness or optimism or diligence as a muscle, and expect the same stress, fatigue and progress along the way.

So, have we cast every phantom excuse into the light of day? What’s left that’s keeping you hiding or distant? Are you willing to put it out there on public display? (Trust me, it will feel good having done it.)

By all means, read. Visit. Chat. But more than any of that, manifest. No one can do this part for you, but everything meaningful hinges on it. Make yourself a Primal plan every single day if you have to. What am I going to do today to get my butt in the game? Bring some chicken thighs and cut vegetables for lunch? Get sun over the weekend instead of sit inside? Hit the gym on the way home? Practice a mini power outage and be coaxed into a natural bedtime? Then do it. The next day, do it some more. Start edging out all the garbage that doesn’t work for you in your life and health. Come back for more ideas to elbow out more still. Nod less. Do more – today of course.

Anyone willing to admit being in the hot seat today? What’s been holding you back from taking the plunge? What’s the first thing you’re going to commit to right now? Does this ring true of your past with the PB? If so, what gave you the swift kick to get going? Looking forward to reading your thoughts… Thanks for stopping by today, everyone.

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  1. I adopted the “Just Do It” Nike slogan.

    Groktimus Primal wrote on November 21st, 2013
  2. I hope anyone who is an earnest lurker joins us. We need you! Come on, jump in. . . the water’s great.

    Happycyclegirl wrote on November 21st, 2013
  3. Do people really lurk on a regular basis but still eat the SAD?

    Colleen wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Yes. I lurked for 6-8 months before I finally started changing my eating and activity habits. A year and a half later I’m down 110 pounds and feeling great!

      Jake wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Wow at least I’m not a weirdo, I have been lurking since August and planning to start as soon as I move out of my boyfriends and at least i will be able to manage it without him tempting me with all junk!

        Gigi wrote on November 25th, 2013
    • I do. I’ve been lurking on MDA for 2+ years. Sometimes, I do really well, but then I tend to slip back into SAD.

      LaLa wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Me too.

        terriann wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Yeah, I’ve been off and on for a year now, the food isn’t entirely the problem though. I have issues with getting exercise. I am working on it though.. I will not give up. :)

          Sharon T wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I have been lurking for about 3-4 months.

      Not totally. I now have salad for lunch almost everyday with eggs, whatever meat and veggies I have on hand (usually tomatoes, cucumber, red bell pepper, chicken/turkey, etc) and usually spice it up enough to not need dressing. Almost every meal we have is made fresh with plenty of veggies and meat, and very rarely grains. I am not 100%, probably not 50% yet, but it is helping.

      But I can do more. I still consider myself a lurker. I love the site and believe in what it teaches…. but old habits die hard, ya know?

      Mark C. wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • There are different kinds of inertia to overcome when making changes. I was struggling with training well, eating clean and generally getting myself healthy for several years when I stumbled upon MDA. Something in that first week of voraciously devouring posts flicked on a light switch in my head, and (on the nutrition side, anyway) that was it for me. I was pretty much 80-90% primal right away and within a month I was training 3-4 days a week again.

        That was my stumbling block, immediately overtraining and incorporating 5×5 for primary lifts, but still doing an isolation bodypart split on top of that. And then finishing every workout with ten minutes of tabatas.

        I’m now a month into training way less, loving it, and humbled by the changes affected by simply opening my ears up and trying something different. It’s going to be different for everyone, but at some point, you need to do what Groktimus said….make like Nike, Just Do It.

        Reventon wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • I do well on Primal for 6 weeks or so at a time. Keep triggering back to SAD when a major stress event happens. I have a hard time with the moving…I easily get enough walking in a day just doing what I do, but I strongly dislike heavy things :-/
          When I need it and am ready to try again, here I am…back again!

          Jessica wrote on November 24th, 2013
      • I make my own salad dressing – I Googled “olive oil balsamic vinaigrette” and found a recipe that I liked and modified from there. It’s basically 2 parts olive oil, 1 part balsamic vinegar, with some rosemary, marjoram, basil, ground red pepper (I like the heat), turmeric, sage, minced onions/onion powder, and some minced garlic. Sometimes I’ll add a little raw honey. I have no idea how much of what I add, because I don’t measure anything except the olive oil and balsamic vinegar, because I rotate between two different bottles, and they each hold different amounts. I quickly discovered that it was much easier to calculate how much oil and vinegar to add when I measured in ml, instead of oz. When I first made it, it took a few days to adjust to the taste, because most dressing has sugar (in one form or another) in it, and I didn’t have any honey in it then. One day, I was out of my dressing, so I used some Italian dressing that a co-worker had in the refrigerator. It tasted so sweet that I could hardly stand it, glad I was using it sparingly. Next time I was out, I did without!

        b2curious wrote on December 5th, 2013
    • Yep and I’m one of them ……….so ashamed! :-(

      Gigi wrote on November 25th, 2013
      • Don’t be ashamed! Shame doesn’t help anyone.

        We can only start when we’re really ready.

        Perhaps it’s worth identifying the reasons you’re not primal yet? This takes getting really deep, and it can be hard. But it’s absolutely possibly, and entirely worth it. Best of luck.

        Jenna Felicity wrote on April 14th, 2015
    • absolutly!
      I’ve been a “lurker” since Mark and the team started this page.
      I have the original PB book as well as the new revised copy, the 21 day challenge and 2-3 recipe books but still am yet to go “full hog” so to speak.

      My hubby is beyond picky and I have tried for the last 3 years to get him to ditch the garlic bread, pizza and turkey subs but I just can’t seem to get him on board and I’ve used it as my excuse to continue eating the same way I have for the last 28 years. I REFUSE to make more than one meal for dinner so it stays the same.

      Nell wrote on November 25th, 2013
      • So make your Primal meal, he can make his own.

        Kelda wrote on November 25th, 2013
        • +1 to that!

          Jennifer wrote on December 5th, 2013
    • Yup. And who have fallen off the wagon and not quite sure why not climbing back on.

      Nicole wrote on November 29th, 2013
  4. I know a few people like this. Unfortunately Mark is right, you have to let them find their own path when they’re ready. I’m an all in kind of person that hit the ground running immediately. Others aren’t like that and it was frustrating to me at first but I’ve learned to just let them make their own mistakes and (hopefully) learn from them. Provide the wisdom when they ask you for it and then just sit confidently back with your response. Either they follow the advice or they don’t. At least you’ll know that you tried to help out and you can easily move on even though your humanity makes it tough at times.

    Dave B. wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Very true!! I’ve mentioned, hinted and prodded about primal living to a few close friends. But I’ve learned that I then need to slowly let them find it. (That’s how my sister got me!) The two times I pushed hard both recoiled and now I can see the eye rolls coming any time I start to chat health, fitness or nutrition. Human nature proves again and again… people will be more devoted to something if they think it was their own idea! So, plant those seeds then stand back and let them take root.

      Marti wrote on November 22nd, 2013
  5. This post is spot on, and I suffered from this affliction for years. It’ like that old saying: “To know and yet not to do is in fact not to know.” That applies to a lot more than diet and exercise.

    Wild Bill wrote on November 21st, 2013
  6. I fell snowboarding 2 years ago and injured both my shoulders. Between that and just trying to stay gainfully employed I havent been able to indulge in the pyhsical side of the PB lifestyle.

    I feel better than I did than wheb eating SAD but im still a scronny nerd.

    Wizbaa wrote on November 21st, 2013
  7. I hate to provide excuses…but I don’t see myself getting fully on board until I’m finally getting adequate sleep. My toddler still wakes us up several times per night (for comfort), so my sleep depends on him. Prior to having kids, I was getting a solid 8-9 hours per night, and for the past several years it’s been more like 6 hours of broken sleep. I’ve done quite a bit with cleaning up my diet and still manage to walk the dog most days of the week. I just don’t have the rested mind or energy right now to do more than that. But I enjoy reading the blog posts and keeping up-to-date on nutrition issues , which will help when I’m finally up to implementing the plan more fully.

    Sally wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Those aren’t excuses! It’s called life, and it happens to the best of us. Take your time… baby steps :)

      Paul wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I feel your pain! I try to follow PB but am fully embracing the 80/20 rule right now! My baby does not sleep thru the night yet (although she’s only been waking up once per night this week so maybe we’re onto something)! Sleep needs to come prior to so much else we can discuss on this site.

      I also find myself starving while breast feeding… I do eat Primal most of the time, but tend to grab sweets to make up for the extra calories I need. It’s not a weight issue for me, but I know I need to eat to provide optimum nutrition to my body (and my baby’s body)… sweets – even primal ones – don’t really do that… Nuts are an issue too (my body doesn’t digest them all that well, but they’re easy when I’m hungry between meals).

      Anyway, with 2 young kids (one who doesn’t sleep thru the night, is still nursing, etc) + work + pumping I have excuses too! That’s just the reality of my life right now. Nutrition + exercise are not my top priorities.

      I am in no hurry for the baby to grow up… but the reality is I spend around 2 hours of every day either nursing or pumping for her her. Add that to working close to 40 hours a week, cooking, playing with my 4 year old, trying to talk to the husband, etc and the days are quite full!

      Sara wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Great article, though! We all need a “kick in the butt” sometimes!

        Sara wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Oh my gosh! That sounds so familiar. I also have a 4 year old and am nursing a baby that is not quite sleeping through the night. Add school on top of that and the day is pretty rough. Hard to fit everything in, and to be honest, most days I can’t.

        At first I felt bad about not being able to go “cold turkey” (I’ve been working on a primal lifestyle for the past two years). I am only now to a point where I feel that I have a solid foundation, but every step that I took towards this way of life felt wonderful.

        Christi wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I’m right there with you! My 3 month old wakes me up 2-3 times every night. I’ve become a lurker since he was born because I’m dealing with the stress of sleep deprivation and being a new mom by eating sweets. Sure I get motivated and go a couple weeks clean, but I keep falling back to unrefined sugar. I’m ashamed to admit that I was eating chocolate chips when I read this article! I think my step is to get myself right emotionally so I can keep my diet clean.

      Rosita wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Let me just say to all these new moms that feel they can’t fully implement the nutrition advice laid out in the Primal Blueprint, you can do it if you really want to. I quit sugar (and I was HUGE sugar addict) two weeks after my youngest was born and right around the time my almost 3 year old dropped her naps completely. I haven’t gone back and he is now 5 months old. Sugar was my last hold out to going paleo, but was something I held on to tightly. Now I’m just working on fully adopting the AIP since that is what I need to be doing for optimal health. Nightshades are freaking everywhere!

        I’m just saying, I get the exhaustion of little babies. My three year old doesn’t sleep well at night either and my youngest doesn’t think he needs to take naps most days, but I really want this so I’m not waiting to take care of myself. Moms are bad about putting themselves last and will hide behind the excuse of being a mom forever. I’m not following in my mom’s footsteps, that’s for sure, I’m taking care of myself.

        Casey wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • I’m fully primal except for the sugar monster, and I am pretty sure that keeps me from losing any more weight. It’s fabulous, ethically sourced, fair trade, shade grown, hummingbird kissed organic sugar from a women’s cooperative–but it still makes my butt look fat. I need to replace it with protien. Thanks for the kick!

          This is a brilliant time for this post, coming as it does right before thanksgiving.

          fitmom wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • +1

          TJ wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • yeah, it’s sugar/sweets for me too. I’m 100% into it, cooking my bacon in the morning and bone broths and salads, etc. Then I have a crazy deadline for work or hit some kind of crisis…and I go straight for pie or doughnuts. I do medical research, so I fully understand that it’s the cortisol talking…but I’ve found myself unable to resist. I seem to only be able to stick with PB when I’m stress-free.

          Lilly wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I’m just glad to hear I’m not the only one that has a toddler with tricky sleep habits. I do think its a big limitation. I long for the day when I can get regular sleep!

      chuck cotton wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I struggled with lack of sleep also with both my kids (now 4.5 and 2). Let me tell you, though, I’ve never had more energy than I do now. I eat probably about 80% primal most of the time. I don’t need the caffeine jolt in the morning and I don’t get the afternoon lag, either. Maybe taking the plunge and changing up your diet could help you cope with the no sleep issues? Good luck! It doesn’t last forever. :)

      Kanga Mommy wrote on November 22nd, 2013
  8. I am a bit of a lurker. While I go “primal” on again and off again, I always read MDA everyday. My biggest hurdle is not having any support in my immediate family, they think I’ve gone “hippie”. I live in a small rural area in the high desert, so grass fed beef is hard to come by and expensive to boot. I’m land locked so wild caught seafood is usually a rare find. There is only one farmers market here (an hour drive) and it’s only open in the summer. I do what I can, but when the budget gets tight and I get tired of fixing two meals all the time, I start to slide off the wagon for a time, but I am nothing if not persistent, so I’ll climb back on again when I can.

    Sometimes I think how much better it would be if I was diagnosed with a food allergy or some sort of problem, then I could avoid all the eye-rolling and snarky comments from my in-laws, and some times even my kids and husband! Since I have no real problems, I just do what I know is right for me and keep it to myself!

    Vettech wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I totally agree …not having support in the immediate family makes it difficult to stay on course especially in our time constrained daily lives. There are essentially two competing agendas to manage. Not sure how to get around that basic fact.

      JG wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • All the more reason to participate in the forum, Create a support thread or a journal and actively participate. (I’m a forum lurker. Lots of interesting people to say the least).

      Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I’m also a lurker. I’ve learned some great things here (I do a lot of follow up reading on a lot of the science Mark cites) but just don’t care enough to go whole hog with primal.

      I work out. I eat mostly well. I feel and look better than I have at any point in my life. But I like beer, cookies, bread, soy milk, wearing shoes, hot showers, and most of the other things that aren’t part of the lifestyle.

      I read MDA every day and treat it the way I treat every other similar site: Take what works for me or what I find interesting, and leave the rest.

      I’m happy and healthy – that’s all that matters.

      Michael wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I am the only one eating primal in my family and I am the cook! I never cook two meals. I usually serve grains as a side dish (rice, quinoa, etc..). And you know what, I noticed that one of my kids and my husband don’t eat as much grains as before. Some meals with sweet potatoes, yams, or winter squashes are even fully paleo and nobody complains, they even tell me how awesome it taste, and go for seconds – and even thirds for my teenage boy. I have a feeling that they will slowly switch their diet to eat less and less grains without me even pushing it.

      NatalieInCA wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • +1!

        Casey wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • I stopped cooking processed foods for dinner. If my family wants it, they have to make it. Almost never happens.
        My husband finally went wheat free long enough to feel its affects when he went back. He admitted that he never knew what it felt like to feel good in the gut.
        We are coming along. Slow and steady.

        liz wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I actually first started looking into paleo because of multiple food sensitivities – I am allergic to and or/unable to tolerate gluten, dairy, soy, rice, eggs, yeast and pecans. Even with the diagnosis I still get snarky comments at times – more so from coworkers than family. I’m still lurking at this point, but I just ordered the 21 Day Challenge book and I think I’ve convinced my husband to do the 21 days with me. The book should arrive tomorrow, so I’m hoping to spend Saturday shopping/prepping and be on board by Sunday. I think the biggest hurdle for me will be giving up sugar and getting enough sleep.

      Teresa wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Exactly, that’s what I do and note the change in choices. You cook one meal with choices of ‘side’ dishes like the grains and other non primal choices. My family choose a healthy balance, my husband likes the main part of the diet but loves carbs which he has consciously reduced and lost weight as a result. I stray a bit at work as I am a nurse on shift work and travel for up to two hours a day to work and back. Don’t do planned exercise enough but busy shifts on your feet leave me exhausted at the end of the week. I agree with the main philosophy of primal eating and see the results in my workplace from the effects of poor diet / lifestyle choices with the epidemic of chronic disease such as diabetes and inflammatory processes as well as the drastic impact of smoking related disease.

        Lyndy Lou from Oz wrote on November 27th, 2013
    • I have been using the Green Polka Dot Box for ordering those foods that are inaccessible in my area.
      This is a GMO-free membership club that ships organic and non-GMO food at wholesale prices directly to your door. It has grass-fed meats and wild caught seafood, along with lots of other stuff. It’s where I found the Nick’s Sticks grass-fed beef jerkey (my savior come snack time at work). I have a great organic market near my home, but for some stuff, I use GPDB because it is much less expensive.

      Finally! wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Sounds great, thanks for linking it, I will check into the site. :)

        Sharon T wrote on November 22nd, 2013
    • My mother in law asked me when I could start eating “normally” again once I lost the weight. I put a stop to that eye-rolling by the in-laws by explaining in rich, glorious detail what happens to me when I eat “normally.” I feel bad never eating dinner with them, but the in-laws cook all these crock-pot meals using packeted seasoning mixes and canned sauces that I just can’t eat.

      I happened to print out a copy of the IC-Smart Diet, which helps relieve a type of bladder inflammation (I don’t have IC but I do have OAB), and it excludes certain preservatives and things of which those boxes, packets, and cans are chock-full. I never needed to bring it to them after our poop conversation, but it’s handy if I ever need to throw down my medical condition card. Now they just ask me what I can/can’t eat whenever they want us over.

      Kristina wrote on November 22nd, 2013
    • I think I might be your twin. I have stopped feeding my family differently though. And I have access to small farms and can even get raw dairy. I also am close to an organic store for fresh produce. My husband and kids are ok with my diet but won’t follow it and the rest of my family either questions me to death or thinks it’s just a fad. If they find out how much I paid for an organic chicken ($20) they look at me with three heads. But I have been primal for a few months now and I can actually tell the difference between a chicken that $3.50 and my $20 chicken because the cheap bird will give me cramps. I have never been so in tune with my body. Put yourself first and like Mark says, Groks burger cost $12. Good food is worth the cost.

      Barb wrote on November 28th, 2013
  9. I think in our present day society one of the hurdles is standing out. When you make the change, people change their attitude and behavior towards you. Each individual has to find that inner strength to say “they are unhappy because they are not willing to make the changes that I AM willing to make for my health, life, etc.” I know in my own experience, people had a sharp response to my lifestyle change ranging from constant “are you sick” comments (no actually just getting very healthy!) to the “gosh you’re skin and bones, you should eat more.” Society is so blinded by the media presentations on what’s “right,” that they simply can grasp a better approach to life.

    Mike wrote on November 21st, 2013
  10. I think I’ve been guilty of a little “lurking.” I’m a runner – have been for years – and never able to figure out why I couldn’t lose the bit of belly and the jiggle despite 30-40 miles a week and 1200 – 1600 calories a day. My diet is healthier than 90% of the population – no fast food, no white bread, lots of veggies, lean protein, WHOLE GRAINS, and so forth. Fat is the enemy, right? For years I’ve made a habit of obsessively limiting my fat intake.

    I’m not overweight (at 5’6” and about 135 – 140 lbs) but definitely not as “fit” or “cut” as I should be (or want to be). My “happy weight” is about 127, and I’ve been there before, but I have to KILL myself to get there. Why am I always so tired? Why can’t I get through the afternoon without Diet Coke? Why do I run and run and run but can’t manage to lose more than 7 or 10 lbs? Why do I gain it right back when I’m not in “training mode?”

    I can’t remember exactly how I stumbled on MDA in my search for an answer – but I did. Then I purchased the Primal Blueprint for my Kindle and devoured it in a matter of days. I changed my eating habits overnight. I definitely felt better in a couple of days – and food was enjoyable again. Eggs? Love them. Avocado? Easily one of my favorite foods. Steak? Yes please – and rare! Leafy greens? No problem. I’ve loved vegetables since childhood. Another one of my favorite foods is chicken liver pate. Seriously, “eating Primal” should be easy for me. And for the most part, it is.

    So what’s my problem? Why am I a lurker? Well, after about 2 weeks of eating Primal (and trying to curb my chronic cardio habit), I left on a vacation to sunny (and self-indulgent) Mexico. … And fell right off the wagon. I had bread, Margaritas, desserts, pasta, etc. So now I’m back in the Midwest, and I’ve been lurking around MDA for a few weeks. My carb intake is way down (under 100g a day), but I’m not as diligent as I should be. I’m also being lazy when it comes to working out – I hate lifting weights and I miss my high-intensity cardio – which makes me angry at myself, so I reach for a cocktail or two and some chocolate (albeit dark) at the end of the day. Yesterday I said “screw it” and had (gluten-free) crackers with my chicken liver. I would say that instead of being 80/20, I’m about 60/40.

    I feel like this is my confession, something that I needed to get out there. I WANT to live Primal. I BELIEVE it will work for me if I just commit to it. I admit it, my efforts to date have been half-assed. Today will be different. Today IS different. I had coffee with half and half (no breakfast), and my lunch is arugula and salmon salad. I will Lift Heavy Things when I get home from work. Dinner is organic chicken legs on the grill (they’re already marinating) and roasted parmesan brussels sprouts. Maybe I’ll give myself a break and have a glass of red wine or my favorite winter drink, a Manhattan (bourbon is OK, right?). No maraschino cherries, of course.

    Wow. I feel better already.

    Anna Banana wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Hey Anna,

      It’s just my opinion , but it sounds like you’re being pretty hard on yourself, if I read your post correctly you’ve not been Primal for more than a couple of months.

      Lifestyle change takes time to settle in, some people are the ‘jump right in’ types and for others lasting change happens gradually. I took a good few months to get fully switched over, making one positive change at a time and sticking with it was what worked for me.

      Don’t let anger or a sense of failure if you’re not 80/20 stop you from maintaining the changes you’ve made so far. Every positive change is a great step and you should pat yourself on the back for that!

      If you feel you can’t make another step towards change right now, then just work on maintaining the changes you’ve made so far – it doesn’t have to happen overnight.

      Good luck on your Primal journey and well done for the changes you’ve made so far!

      Primal-V wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Primal V-

        Thank you. I’m definitely hard on myself… One of the things that is so appealing about the Primal Blueprint is the focus on being HAPPY and HEALTHY, not stressing ourselves into submission.

        I’ve always believed in “No Pain, No Gain” because that’s what my experience has been… If I wanted results, I had to suffer through the process. That’s a difficult thing to unlearn. But I am trying.

        I really appreciate your feedback. I know I need to give myself a break!

        Anna Banana wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Ms.Banana. Keep up the good work and maybe throw out that half and half and get some real 100% cream. That will make you feel better pronto!

          Nocona wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Great to hear that, sounds like it works for you. For me it began to work only after 1 whole year until I became a full primal!

      Valentina wrote on March 1st, 2014
  11. ::hangs head in shame::
    I am a lurker who reads almost every day. I make grand plans in my head to start living primally, but I keep putting it off (get primal–tomorrow!) I am planning (haha) on doing the 21 day sugar detox soon.. trying to decide if I should start before or after Thanksgiving (it’s always something, isn’t it?). I mostly eat meats and veggies…. and totally cave with sweets.
    Way to step on my toes with this post!

    Librarian wrote on November 21st, 2013
  12. So I was a lurker up until 2 weeks ago. I would flirt with this site, reading it and thinking, “I could do that” or “That’s a good idea” and never trying it out. I’d even subscribe and go thru periods were I’d hide the subscription in my spam folder because it would remind me I failed.

    What changed for me 3 months ago was I figured out (YES BECAUSE OF THIS SITE) that my partner had celiacs. This, changed my diet a lot. My partner was getting healthier and healthier over the last few months and I, still happily clinging to my grains…was not.

    2 weeks ago I said f*** it. I dipped my toe in the pool. It took me another week to take the plunge actually and really go at it. I also did something I never had done before and bought a food book (the 21 day challenge).

    I’ve already gone from a 16L to a 14L. In two weeks, the last few day of which I’ve been on my moon and bloated. Do you know how insanely good it feels to put on your older, smaller pants for the first time on the day of you moon when you are normally trying to find yoga pants or something to balloon into?

    Yesterday I sat down and tallied up all the sugary beverages I normally would have drunk over two weeks…it explained where about 1/2 my weight loss was coming from.

    All this from a lifestyle where I don’t count calories, I don’t go around hungry and I get to eat all of my favorite flavors a lot.

    What made me take the plunge was 3 things Mark:

    1. You being one of the few people talking about celiac’s and the danger of wheat. Here I had been dating a wonderful man for years and watching him suffer with dozens of health problems at 25. The doctors prescribed so much weird stuff to treat each problem until I told him about Celiac’s. It took a 1/2 hour of verbally wrestling the doc to get him to admit I could be right. (We don’t go there anymore.) This made me wonder about conventional wisdom.

    2. Watching my partner heal from grains. Really read the symptom list and subtract 1. That’s how bad he was. And now he’s so happy and off a cocktail of meds. He is gaining muscle my little stick man! Watching him heal gave me the idea maybe I could be healed too.

    3. Realizing I was only 30 lbs overweight. I have hated my body since HS when I had to work at fast food to get money. I blew up. Somehow I always guessing I was 50 lbs overweight. Then I did a body fat test….only 30. 30 is scary. 30 is 7.5 months if I lose a pound a week, or about 4 if I double that.

    Realizing in 4-8 months I could be fit and healthy and happy for the first time in a decade about my body did it. I kept my hopes low about this lifestyle thinking, oh they probably cherry pick people who lose weight fast to talk it up. I guess it’s not hard to cherry pick though, when there are only cherries in the bowl.

    Lurkers, take heed. Day 3 & 4 were vicious but I’m doing so much better. You can too.

    The Inked Hell Hound wrote on November 21st, 2013
  13. My name is Matthew. I am an Earnest Lurker.

    I read it all. I understand it all. I believe it all that is upheld by the research. Wife is by all means NOT on board. It sabotages my efforts and then leaves me feeling defeated and more downtrodden. That cycles into my lack or action. I look at the weekly success stories with admiration, especially those whose spouse has taken up the torch (and spear) with them.

    Cheers to those who have had success and continue to work hard!

    Matthew wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I feel your pain! My husband is the pickiest eater on the planet, and SAD all the way. Will not even attempt to listen to me, he supports me in my decisions, but expects our family food habits to stay the same. I’ve tried to explain how this effects my resolve, but he just can’t get past himself. It is defeating to say the least.

      Vettech wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • I can totally relate. My husband is a carb-addict. (He lists breakfast cereal among his favorite foods… We’re talking Cocoa Puffs, Cap’n Crunch, Fruity Pebbles… Truly disgusting.) The easy way around it? He eats what I make, or makes something else for himself. If he wants to eat cereal for every meal, so be it.

        As an aside, he is also afflicted with terrible nasal “allergies”, constant post-nasal drip, he snores to beat the band, and he has not-so-great skin. I think eliminating wheat alone would do wonders for him, but if he wants to be miserable, again… so be it.

        Anna Banana wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • I can see it now:

          [Stranger]: So tell me Vettech and Anna Banana, how did you two meet?

          [V&B]: Online.

          [Stranger]: Neat, like on match or okcupid?

          [V&B]: MDA.

          Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • My bad, I read Vettech’s post as Matthew and missed the whole “husband” statement. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

          Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Vettech and Anna: Are we three married to the same man? Yes, family members can really but a damper on your plans. My husband still refers to the PB as “your latest fad diet”, although I started on this journey almost 18 months ago, and consider myself fully immersed (over 90%) now. Ironically, I found MDA because I was looking for a solution to HIS problems (and if ever there was a person who showed all the symptoms of being highly gluten sensitive, it’s my hubby). I have all the books in hard copy ;aying around the house (all of Mark’s, plus Wheat Belly, Grain Brain, Fat Salt Sugar, etc). Frankly, I feel great, and look pretty darn good too!!! But NOTHING works with him. At least we have a working agreement on meals, or he would known as the ex-hubby…Vettech: hang in there. I made changes slowly so he wouldn’t upset my resolve too much. We’re cheering for you!!

          Trish wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • My wife is vegetarian. I was for 9 years. When I came on board being Primal, we had furious fights at just having meat in the fridge. Lots of back and forth. After I quickly got very healthy and looking good physically, she slowly starting coming around. I was personally ready to end the relationship for my health (we have no children). I am happy to say she is 99% on board and she is looking and feeling fantastic. Hang in there.

          Nocona wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Man I wish our fights were over too much meat in the fridge, instead our fight are over frozen pizza and spaghetti o’s. However my husband just had his biometrics done for insurance, and his fasting BS was 104. I finally convinced him to ditch the 3 a day pepsi habit. I guess it will be one very small baby step at a time! As for me I’m not about to give up, so I’ll just keep swimming like I always do!

          Oh and Paleo Bon Rurgundy….it’s cool, I think we’re all “open” here!

          Vettech wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Thank you Vettech. I wonder if their fights are still over meat in the frdige, but as in who gets to eat the last steak

          Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Your husband sounds like a walking advertisment for a 110% retail tax on the cereals you describe.

          Paul in Australia wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • My husband says he’s supportive, but the only “vegetables” he will happily eat are corn, peas and potatoes. I cook meals that could be primal for me but include non-primal options for the rest of my family. Once it’s on the table and I’m looking at the pasta or cornbread my resolve crumbles. . . I’m starting at the 50/50 principal and working my way up to 80/20. Hopefully, once my family sees positive changes in me they wil be more on board.

          Karen wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Same here – my husband loves his canned/boxed/frozen instant meals way too much to give up. He was actually diagnosed with pre-diabetes a year ago, which temporarily inspired him to try reducing his carb load, but then the doctor put him on a drug which reduces carb absorption and he went right back to the high-carb SAD. He’s lost maybe 50 pounds so far, largely due to giving up beer and switching to a less-stressful position at work, but he’s got at least another 100 to lose before he stops being a walking advertisement for how the SAD combined with a sedentary lifestyle causes obesity.

          As for myself, I’ve been mostly managing to eat properly, but I haven’t been exercising nearly as much as I need to. I blame my commute for taking up close to 2 hours of my day.

          Loquat wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Then my man must be the SECOND pickiest eater–what man doesn’t like guacamole? He says he hates avocados, but he never turns down my chocolate pudding based on avocados. I have to do a lot of food hiding to get him to eat what he should, but I have no problems getting him to go along with Paleo/Primal/keto.

        He’s recently discovered kohlrabi in our soups and stews, and asks, “are these the dull, tasteless potatoes again?” He remembers the sweet taste of real potatoes, unfortunately.

        Part of the problem is his hyperactive olfactory cluster–he can smell and taste things (or identify lack of taste) that I don’t even register. He inherited that from his mother. Cheese? okay. Cream cheese? Not for him! Organ meats are also a no-go, so I blend a little into the meatloaf, and am sure to include salsa to help cover it up.

        He’s almost like a terrible 2-year-old, but he’s 50. Help me… :+

        Wenchypoo wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • With my husband it’s either pizza, hamburgers, canned food or naught. If I don’t have anything in the house he will eat, he will go to town (8 miles one way) and buy a pizza. So it’s either keep those foods in the house or I won’t have money for my veggies and meat. It’s a vicious circle!
          He quizzes me with any dish I make and if it includes anything he doesn’t like, he will not go anywhere near it! His Idea of veggies are mashed potatoes and gravy or french fries. Seriously when he comes home with McDonalds he will say “see I ate my vegetables today” It’s a joke to him!
          Not that I’m trying to one up anyone, it’s just so incredibly frustrating, and it feels good to vent!!
          My kids are more open to food, but it’s hard to convince them to eat healthy when they see him dunking oreos in his coffee every morning!
          Wow must be husband bashing day, if our marriage wasn’t good in every other aspect, I’d ask myself why am I married to him? I accept a little bad with all of the good!!!

          Vettech wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Matthew, would she eat potatoes, squash, white rice, carrots, 2 or 3 servings of fruit/ day and enjoy sleeping at night? Would she be okay with eating homemade simple sauces on easy to cook foods (the primal sauces book is great)! What I’m trying to say is, the changes could be gradual. I got hubby to eat fried potatoes instead of bread. He has not gained weight eating whole food and non grain starch sources like potatoes and even loses if he sticks to it. He really misses sandwiches from time to time and pizza, but he can indulge once a week or so with no problems. I hope you can get on board even if things are hard. That actually goes for everyone! I understand sabatogue feelings, but if I keep myself eating healthy (including a reasonable amount of starch) things are easier to handle. And keeping marital bliss alive is often more important than how we eat.

      Kati wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Boy do I feel that pain. I’m in the exact same boat. Two years ago I went PB and lost about 80 lbs in just over 6 months. The stress I had to go through to do was tough-cooking separate meals, finding restaurants where I could eat Primal, etc. was tough. Then something happened to my knee and it hurt so much I could hardly walk for about 3 weeks, and it took 3 months to get in to see a Dr., get an MRI, etc. (and found out I have osteoarthritis), and by then I had given up. Now, sadly, I’ve regained the 80 lbs (and possibly a few more). I really want to get back on the wagon, but the fear of dealing with the stress allows me to keep making excuses.

      Matt wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Kati, never give up. All of the inflammatory properties in a poor diet and non primal food will not aid recovery of your knee. Osteoarthritis often can be managed with 1. Good diet choices, 2. lose weight. 3. Glucosamine (caution tolerance to it and no allergies to seafood / crustaceans and check with your medical advisor) – at least 1500 mg a day (Mark does this fit in with primal living?).
        I have lots of stress on my knees from past traumas due to playing polocrosse on horseback for years.
        I could barely walk and had ceased Glucosamine, had limited range of movement in leg, had to stand for 10 seconds before attempting to walk (classic signs of osteoarthritis), Thought I was going to be crippled and unable to walk and my job depends on mobility as a nurse on busy ward.
        I resumed my daily Glucosamine, ate a basically primal diet, slowly lost weight and in about three months can walk again with full range of movement in my leg, thank goodness, no surgery required.
        You can do it. I did it and I’m no superhero! Go for it!

        Lyndy Lou from Oz wrote on November 27th, 2013
    • No offense but, can you not cook?

      glorth2 wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • All is not lost. I live with a carboholic who respects my lifestyle and we manage. I don’t bake, he buys his own junk food. In the beginning, he would even keep it out of my sight, but that’s no longer an issue. I make a meal we can all eat plus a carby side for him, like potatoes or pasta. I go to the gym, he doesn’t.

      He is proud of my progress and likes the way I look. I will never convince him to join me, but we make it work. I’m motivated because I have health problems that are much improved with Primal and I like the way I feel.

      Don’t stop trying!

      gibson wrote on November 21st, 2013
  14. I feel that I might be a lurker. I found MDA about two years ago, read the Primal Blueprint and began eating in the primal style. I love it and have no bother following the eating side of things. I have lost around 36 lbs and have no trouble keeping it off. My problems lie with the exercise. I am 70 years old and have suffered from CFE/ME for a lot of my life and seem to have reached a plateau with my weight which still has a way to go. Although I felt loads better in so many ways I was still dragging myself about trying to do the basic household tasks, trying to keep things in reasonable order. About three months ago I started taking Vitamin D3 supplements and am beginning to feel the benefit at last. I am not sure how to begin an exercise programme at my age. I read about the success stories every week and am ever hopeful. Any exercise advice would be much appreciated.

    Annakay wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • If you can afford it, book a couple of sessions with a certified personal trainer who can help you assess your current fitness level and work with you on a plan for exercise that will be safe for you and help you reach you goals. This would be a great way to get started. Again, if you can afford it, you might check in periodically with the trainer to update on your progress and make a new plan.

      Some trainers will take small groups (3-4) of people at similar fitness levels for training. This may be an option for you as well.

      Susan wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Annakay,

      I am sorry to hear about your health issues, but am inspired by your dedication and efforts. I am a lurker who has the books and keeps reading the posts and the comments for motivation. I have made some changes to my diet, and have a few times, been able to fit in a puny effort at exercise. I am not giving up though. If you can do it with all your obstacles, I can certainly put forth more effort. I struggle with the pass/fail thinking. if I cannot 100% embrace and live it, then I have failed, and I give up too easily. I also allow my family to be an excuse to give in to the cravings.

      I am worried about you exercising if your cfs/me is the same as Myalgic Encephalomyelitis. any exercise that puts a load or stress on the body exacerbates ME. please consult your physician before starting any exercise program. it could be dangerous for you.

      keep up the good work

      Pamela Swanner wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Start with a daily walk.if you have access to a pool,swimming or walking in water is a good exercise. Also tai chi. This are all very gentle exercises.

      Antje wrote on November 22nd, 2013
      • Thank you Susan, Pamela and Antje for your input. I will certainly try out your ideas and see how I get on.

        Annakay wrote on November 22nd, 2013
        • Keep us posted! and best wishes for health and happiness

          Pamela Swanner wrote on November 22nd, 2013
  15. Hmm. I wouldn’t necessarily consider myself a lurker but I do not follow the Primal Blueprint thing 100% either nor do I ever intend to follow it 100%. I visit MDA and other related sites because of the plethora of information that’s out there and it helps me keep up to date with information I don’t find on my own and is applicable to my clients. Rule #1 of nutrition is that no one diet is good for everyone and that’s even true of the PB diet.

    Matt wrote on November 21st, 2013
  16. My husband and I were once a faithful Paleo converts after the birth of my first child just shy of 3 years ago… and lost almost 40 lbs and felt great and followed it pretty well at least 80/20 or better. Then I got pregnant with my second child and I lost all desire to follow the lifestyle more for sheer taste-bud and nausea issues with eating the steady diet of eggs, bacon, red meat, etc. I knew I was giving up on something that worked very well for me, but when I found that I was not eating anything at all because I felt trapped in this lifestyle that I couldn’t eat anything else other than pre-pregnancy foods; I was feeling horrible physically, etc. So, as a result, I fell off the wagon and started eating grains, etc. throughout my pregnancy and still continued after her birth in Jan 2013. Several life events over the last 10 mos prevented me (my personal choice) from being willing to take the plunge again. But several times over the life of my pregnancy and since her birth I’ve come back to MDA to get that fire lit again that once motivated me to go Paleo before. I needed to read those success stories, I needed to see those recipes, I needed to read Mark’s info and Q & A. At no time did I not consider myself not part of the community; I knew I would return to the Paleo lifestyle again because I enjoyed it and I felt better than ever before when I followed it. Just in the last week I’ve cut out all grains and am working on reducing my sugar intake. Been eating my fav veggies of bell peppers, mushrooms, zuchinni sauteed in garlic and coconut oil; eating lamb and beef and wonderful omelets with avocado, goat cheese, sauteed vegs, bacon, etc. Eating a few berries with my full fat greek yogurt, etc. It feels good, going thru the carb flu a bit with headaches and drowsiness periodically, but I’m ok with that. Have joined a gym (just moved to a new city in August after retiring from the AF in October) and am taking it slow; rowing on the Concept 2, walking and jogging on the treadmill and stretching. I’m the heaviest I’ve ever been in my 41 years; at 5’6″/168 lbs. My normal weight is 130-135. Been pretty depressed but am pulling myself up by my bootstraps again and making the commitment again. Sorry for the length of this post, but taking Mark’s suggestion and coming clean and putting myself out there for that kick in the pants. Tried the Primal Whole Egg Coffee this morning, will work on it a bit more but was pleasantly surprised that I could get two eggs in my diet in my busy morning and still enjoy my coffee! Keep the info coming Mark, believe me it’s not wasted even if it’s read by lurkers or previous diehards that fell off track. We need this site and we enjoy the community and honest opinions posted out here! :)

    TJ wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • I too fell off the paleo wagon when i got pregnant. I suffer from hypermesis gravidarium which is extreme nasea 24/7 for the entire pregnancy.I had been paleo for over a year and was at my thinnest since high school, i felt amazing. Now I am six months pregnant and already gained 40 pounds, so depressing. But the first four months I ate nothing but carbs.i am feeling better now but still have to constantly eat to stave off the nasea. I battle everday inside my head about what to eat trying so hard to be paleo but super hard when meat is the last thing i want to eat. So i try my best and am hoping once baby is here that going back to a strict paleo diet will help take off all this weight. I think its pretty hard for many pregnant women to stick with paleo. So for now i am about 60/40 and gluten free and will be a lurker here on mda to keep my drive going. :)

      Karen wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • I feel for ya. I didn’t really have nausea, but what I did have was just a distaste for any of the primal foods I came to love. The smell, the look, everything about meat, eggs, bacon, sausage, salads, etc. all made me feel like I was going to gag. The only advice I have, coming from a post-partum mom of 10 months; is try not to take too long to go back to primal. I’m paying for my delay now. My body aches when I exercise and when I don’t, my clothes are bigger than ever; and all in all I feel like I have SOOOOO far to go to get back to how I felt when I first went primal in 2011. But I know I’ll get there; just wish I would’ve started more at the 6 mo mark postpartum instead of almost 11 mo postpartum! Have a healthy baby and be kind to yourself!

        TJ wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • You must be having a boy. Sounds just like my first one. With the girl all I wanted was meat and cheese. And of corse Mexican food. It will all pass. And the baby is worth all the trouble it caused for 9 months.

        Debi wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • I also gave up eating primally when I had hyperemesis during pregnancy. In my opinion, primal/paleo simply isn’t possible when you’re vomiting constantly! About a month after my son’s birth, I went back to mostly primal eating, but with extra carbs because I’m nursing and constantly hungry.

        I just want to encourage you that the pounds DO come off when you go back to better eating. I’m 4.5 months postpartum, and just got back into my pre pregnancy jeans. :)

        Interestingly, this is my fourth child, and the first time that I’ve eaten primally postpartum. Always before I have struggled for a year or more to lose baby weight, killing myself with working out and seeing very little progress, and each time keeping a few pounds that just wouldn’t come off. This time around it has been completely different!!

        Emily wrote on November 22nd, 2013
  17. Guilty as charged, Mark. I’ve been reading MDA since 2009, when I found it by googling “caveman diet” after I read Beyond Veg and a review of AudettNeanderthin. I’ve been reading lots of paleo/primal blogs since then, but there always seemed to be an excuse as to why I couldn’t do it “just now.”

    For example, the endless parade of birthday parties, weddings, anniversaries, holidays, and whatever-your-reason celebrations that pop up out of nowhere. Or having a spouse who understands why I want to change my diet, but doesn’t see a need to join me (I’m not blaming him, just saying, it’s hard to avoid gluten and chips and Snickers when they are in the house). Or being pregnant or nursing for the better part of the past five years, and not having any motivation or brain power to exercise. And chasing down three small kids day after day just sucks away any moment I might have to devote to self-care and being mindful of my diet. Have I mentioned that my kids are obligate carbovores, and think of pasta and pizza as comprising a necessary food group of their own :-)?

    Well, all of those things are true but they are not by any means insurmountable obstacles. I’ve purged all the junk food from the house, keep GF bread and pasta around for the girls while I work on weaning them off of those foods, and told my husband to please, please keep the candy in his car. He has no problem eating what I cook, but unless a miracle occurs he will not let go of his precious English muffins. Since I don’t care for English muffins, I can live with them in the house.

    I started cooking and eating Primal 100% four days ago. I had a regular wheat bun on a hamburger on Saturday night and felt sick all night long, I barely slept and was a bloated mess the following day. See, I know this about myself, I know gluten is bad for me, I’ve been n=1’ing myself with GF trials for years and I KNOW I cannot eat it, but now and then I say what the heck and it all falls down.

    So, I took out some big paper I keep around for the kids to doodle and got out my nice calligraphy pens and using a two-tone ink wash I wrote out this message:

    “Not tomorrow, TODAY. Not just today, but NOW” and hung it prominently on the face of the kitchen cabinets, the first thing I see every morning when I stumble into the kitchen clawing for caffeine and five minutes of peace before the baby starts wailing. It helps, it really does. I’m not seeing much weight loss yet, despite being lower on the carb curve than I ever was before. Maybe I need to cut them even further, or just give it some time. But I can report that my clothes feel better, my tummy is settled and I don’t have that six-month pregnant belly look. My sleep is already better and I have more energy than usual.

    I just have to remember to keep writing about these positive developments so I can reinforce what I already K-N-O-W: gluten = bad, primal = good, don’t eat foods that bother my stomach, go for a walk every day, put on my own oxygen mask first then worry about getting the kids in line.

    I tend to see things as all-or-nothing events, sprints rather than marathons, short airplane hops rather than long, interesting, meandering road trips. I don’t know why this is, but if something doesn’t happen quickly and have a concrete, observable outcome, I lose patience and faith. Reminding myself to slow down and enjoy the ride, and to look for the little successes rather than fret about not already being at the finish line is MISSION CRITICAL for me. I’ve been de-programming from any number of CW myths and fallacies for years now, and I think I’m ready to retrain my brain to be more patient and forgiving, and not just of myself and my own failures!

    Thanks for this post today. It’s something that has been on my mind of late, how I just need to DO, not think or read, but DO.

    Amy wrote on November 21st, 2013
  18. I think this might be the first time I’ve commented…and yes I’m a lurker. Found MDA this time last year and cold turkeyed it for 3 months and lost 21lbs in time for my wedding, went on honeymoon and “treated” myself to whatever I wanted and haven’t managed to get fully back on the wagon. I’ve tried a couple of times to go back to primal but I seem to give up after a week or so. I know it works and I know its better for me – just nothing seems to motivate quite like having to fit into a wedding dress!

    I definitely need a kick in the pants…

    Jo W wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Jo-

      I, like you, completely fell off the wagon on a recent vacation. Getting back on the wagon has been difficult, and I can’t really explain why.

      I am SO GLAD that Mark brought “lurking” into the light. I feel exposed (in a good way!) I think he’s given us a wonderful opportunity to motivate each other.

      Anna Banana wrote on November 21st, 2013
  19. I am probably better-than-80% primal — and loving it — as a personality, I just am a little slow to go whole hog (nose to tail, tee hee). Also, I’ve believed a lot of things over the course of my life and been wrong about about half of them, so I just don’t “believe” as easy as I once did.

    But I have wondered why some people hang out on the forums when they don’t seem to be particularly interested or sympathetic. I don’t suppose those people — trolls, I guess — are who you’re talking about.

    Martha wrote on November 21st, 2013
  20. I was an immediate-action reader and not a lurker. Im 23, female, and got into it for vanity to be honest. I’ve experienced awesome results.

    However, when I read about the health benefits (along with reading Gary Taubes’ and Robert Lustig’s books out of curiosity and shock that CW could be so wrong) I became very gung ho.

    I know a lot of seniors who start falling apart in so many ways in their 40s, 50s, 60s– I DO NOOOOT want to be like that.

    When I retire I aspire to look like Carrie 😀

    see saw wrote on November 21st, 2013
  21. Definitely a lurker…I was totally primal a couple of years ago for over a year and a half…was feeling better than I ever felt before. Got really sick and looked to easy comfort foods and the downward spiral started that I can’t seem to get off. Changed jobs, moved away from a city I liked and work way too hard. The stress keeps me reaching for bad things because I have become depressed by the situation. It doesn’t help that who I live with doesn’t get it and just keeps saying just try this, or you have to eat this so the neighbors think we liked it…etc. Also in the mix is my work environment where junk food is readily available 24/7 and they celebrate almost daily with crap. I politely decline and they force it on you until you have to tell them 10 times no. I really need to get back to primal because I do believe being primal will help me deal with my depression as well as the stress in my life but it is so hard to get started. I restart a few times every week.

    lykopis wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Totally can relate to you! I’ve changed jobs, changed cities, my spouse has been unemployed due to our move, two little kids under the age of 4, etc. It is a self-licking ice cream cone and I’ve never been this depressed or overweight; and it’s due to all the cortisol (i.e. stress), no exercise, and going for the easy comfort of “yummy” food that is totally sabotaging to any efforts. One step at a time, one foot in front of the other is the only way we can make progress… stay strong and don’t be so critical of yourself. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. And it’s time to take care of yourself despite the naysayers. Luckily, my husband prefers primal and is a huge support of this. I hope I can stay on track, but there will be days that will be harder than others and I will not follow it perfectly. We’re human. Just wanted you to know you’re not alone…

      TJ wrote on November 21st, 2013
  22. I’ve never had the luxury of being a lurker simply because health problems — including autoimmune symptoms that for years drove me crazy — catapulted me into change. I’m also kind of a type-A personality so that helps. There’s nothing like suffering to motivate, though! I am pretty strict primal, despite having a toddler who has his picky moments. But I’ve raised him primal/paleo pretty much from the start, which has made it much easier — most non-primal foods are just not within his frame of reference (yet). And my husband is a chameleon when it comes to food so just eats whatever I eat and is fine with it! Lucky me, I know. But I empathize with those who say they have family members who aren’t on board, because I have several family members who suffer and I know they could feel so much better if they would just ditch SAD for Primal. I think there is this mentality in some people that getting sick as we age is just inevitable, and normal, and that there is nothing we can do about it. I also think that it is scary for some people to change — how we eat is connected to so many other aspects of our self image, our family history, our attitude toward life in general. So it is complicated. I know a woman who struggles constantly with her husband, who has thyroid problems, and his eating habits. He is overweight, has all these issues, and she is super motivated in terms of health. Unfortunately sometimes these eating issues — which seem superficial — point to deeper differences between people in intimate relationships that need looking at. If somebody is unwilling to take care of themselves, you have to sort of ask, well, what does that mean? What is at the root of that behavior? And can I live with it if it doesn’t change?

    Alma Mahler wrote on November 21st, 2013
  23. I’m a longtime fitness professional, working in the field for close to 25 years now. I feel like I’ve witnessed so many trends and fads that I approach everything cautiously. I like the scientific support that I find on this site, and the common sense approach to the whole picture of what health should be (not to mention Mark’s humor).
    I am technically a “lurker” because my purpose for reading MDA, etc. is to give myself some ammo when it comes to my everyday interactions. To change the perception of what healthy is and help people develop their own intuition on what’s best for them. Do I follow the PD strictly? No. Do I feel healthy and energetic? Yes, I’d say 90% of the time. Do I want 100%? Eh, not really. I’m just not a gung-ho personality. I like people, not numbers. I don’t want to count carbs, keep track of my weight, take body measurements, etc. I’m a big picture person. My success is measured every day by how I feel physically and emotionally. I am fortunate to have had very few health issues my whole life and those that have come up, I’ve so far been able to use my knowledge and intuition to tackle them. I have to eat gluten-free and I am conscious of sugar intake and know that the more balance and variety I get in every meal, the better the whole outcome will be. Fortunately, I’m aware enough to make the connection between food and mood (garbage in, garbage out). When I work with people, I think this is the most important message I can give them. I love the action aspects to the PD also. I always get a little amused at the site of a row of crowded treadmills facing a picture window that shows a beautiful spring day. I think Grok would laugh is @$$ off. It’s absurd that so many aren’t connected to this part of our past and are almost afraid of outdoor pursuits.
    The interactions of this community are inspiring. It gives me hope that all is not lost. Change can come and so I check in everyday to remind myself that I am not alone in trying to contribute to that change.
    But, yes, I’m a “lurker”. The PD approach is by far the best fit for me, but I am the tortoise. Slow and steady will win my race. For me, it can’t be done in 21 days.
    And, by the way…this is the first time EVER that I’ve posted on any online community site. Congrats to MDA. This tortoise just took another step.

    Sara wrote on November 21st, 2013
  24. August, 2010, I was 254 lbs (5’5″, female) according to my doctors records. Having just divorced and psychologically a mess, I was all over the place. Then two years ago, I got the dreaded HA1c result of 8.2 (that’s bad). The doctor put me on a non-insulin injection that made me so sick I couldn’t move without heaving. During that period, I discovered that feeling hungry wasn’t going to kill me. I had to discontinue the medication, but I promised the doctor that if I could test my blood sugar 4 times a day, I would get it under control. As a result, I found that if I eat this thing my blood sugar spiked and if I ate that thing it did not. I started losing weight.

    I was eating primal/paleo/caveman before I even knew what it was….by accident. But the more I did it, the more results I had. Now, I have lost 97 lbs…and can’t wait for the last three to come off so I can officially boast that I have lost 100 lbs.

    Searching the internet trying to expand my food options, I discovered Abel James’ podcast which was fascinating. Being a girl who has to have the science right, I researched some more and found MDA. The science is right. I can’t find a flaw. Do I follow everything all the time? NO! I hate exercise, but I now move more. Was breathless climbing stairs before and now I get up the stairs pretty quick. Do I have a washboard abs? NO…at age 56 I kinda doubt I ever will.

    I live on food stamps – $189/mo. I never exceed that budget, for there is not enough in the rest of my income. Grass-fed, organic, free-range stuff is golden and out of the question most of the time. I have to blur the edges and just think about it this way….which protein is the least per pound this week?…I have to be forgiving with myself. I do what I can. My family rolls their eyes about it, but who cares?

    Am I a lurker? Maybe if you count a person who visits this and other sites to glean information. Not all information is right for every person, so I “eat the meat and spit out the bones” (paleo pun intended). If it works for me, it works…if not, find something that will. But how will I know, if I don’t visit and research, experiment, “bio-hack”…. I’m so happy I found MDA. It’s a valuable resource. Would that not be your goal for this blog?

    Last four HA1c tests? 5.7 (Non-diabetic status)

    Clover wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • My reasson for being here is exactly the same as yours! A1c of 7.3 and as I meticulously kept track of my sugars and deleting foods that shot them up I found myself eating paleo. Down to 6.1 already! And Mark’s post today couldn’t be more timely, I filled out the base and experiment portions of the PB 90 day journal last night. I got the journal because I’ve been backsliding since injuries have me stuck at home since August. The last 2 weeks have been the worst. Stayed away from grain, but boy has the sugar monster got my name. I have to stay serious about my diet so that with my next test in January I can ditch the meds.

      Rema wrote on November 21st, 2013
  25. PS — TJ love your story, can totally relate to how pregnancy and severe nausea can change your relationship to Primal, isn’t that interesting? Somebody recently told me that nausea during pregnancy is associated with H. Pylori — don’t know if it’s trur but it was a well-trained ND so who knows. I had severe nausea and could not eat meat for months. I have also heard that excess protein is toxic for babies in the womb. I have so many questions specific to women and the Primal diet, Mark please do more posts on this! Thanks!

    Alma Mahler wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • +1. Would definitely like to see a bit more info about primal and how it affects women’s hormones for the better (or worse?) I know I won’t be having anymore children, but I still struggle with the typical hormonal balances most women in their 40s and older deal with.

      TJ wrote on November 21st, 2013
  26. I’m not a lurker, and I read mda almost every day, I first started out going primal in May this year after a friend told me about it when I said I was thinking of not being a vegetarian anymore after 23 years of following it, as I didn’t feel healthy my problem has been that I’m not seeing the results like I keep reading everyone else is getting and it’s making me question whether this is right for me, I’m 48 years old 5.4 tall and 9stone 8lb I’m a runner that’s recently had knee surgery so I’m unable to exercise at the minute and I’m finding my resolve to be primal slipping away even though I love this way of eating it’s not keeping my weight down I prefer to be about 9stone, and I feel heavy if that makes sense .

    Sharon Elliott wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Sharon,

      I was introduced to Primal last year by Nerd Fitness. I knew about MDA but had not visited. I started reading MDA every day about a month ago, but I don’t consider myself a lurker. I was a vegetarian for the previous 5 years and lost 50 lbs. during the first 2 years with walking being my primary exercise. Then I hit 50 and the weight loss stopped. Looking for a change, I went Primal and I am not seeing the results that others have posted about.

      I had knee surgery in January. Followed the Dr.’s advice after surgery, bicycle, elliptical and the physical therapy exercises. Boring. I have been pretty much the same weight for all of this year. I loose a couple lbs and then they come back. I have cut out nuts, fruits, dairy. I would say I am 90/10. It’s discouraging. I would love to have the results that others have but it’s just not happening. I have about 40 more lbs to lose. I use MFP every day and keep carbs under 50 most days. I have read on here where people don’t do any exercise at all and still loose weight. What? I walk at least 30 min 2-3 /week and do the body weight exercises 2x/wk. I have yet to do the sprints on a bike as I don’t have a bike or access to one. Actual running is out of the question due to continued problems with the knee. What am I doing wrong?

      Andrea Canavan wrote on November 21st, 2013
      • Andrea, it doesn’t sound like you’re doing anything wrong at all. Everyone is different, so even though it’s hard, try not to compare yourself to others. How do you feel? Do you sleep better when you eat this way and exercise? Do you have more energy? Are there other reasons you are Primal besides weight loss?

        I know it’s tough. I’ve lost 50 pounds myself over the last year and a half and still have a goal to lose 45 more. I’ve been “stuck” at 190-196 for several months now, even though I started a new lifting regimen (the dumbbell division from the NF Academy!) and feel like I’m getting so much stronger. The weight isn’t coming off–that’s terribly frustrating. So I remind myself of all the other reasons I eat/live this way.

        Aside from that, here are some concrete suggestions to break through your plateau:

        -Find a way to include those bike sprints! (This worked for me once)
        -Look into a carb re-feed once a week, especially if you’re limiting to 50 carbs daily. You should be able to search for this post in Mark’s archives.
        -Stop stressing about it. Easier said than done, but I know I personally tend to over think things, stress out, and that can hinder weight/fat loss.

        Keep your head up, and keep doing what makes you FEEL the best.

        Stacie wrote on November 21st, 2013
        • Thanks Stacy. I eat this way because I feel that it is what is best for my body. I ate vegetarian for years because I couldn’t bring myself to eat CAFO meat. Eating pastured eggs, beef and humanely raised chicken and pork makes sense to me. Primal eating makes sense to me.

          I cut out dairy a long time ago because it upset my stomach. I gave up soft drinks over 25 years ago. I never was much of a bread/pasta eater. Fast food, ugh. No way.

          My energy levels don’t seem to be any different than before I started Primal. I do not sleep well at all. I wake up at least 2 or 3 times a night no matter how well I eat or how much I exercise. I blame menopause. First I’m hot then I’m cold. I know this is probably a big factor in my inability to lose the weight, but eventually this will pass. I use a mask to simulate darkness and my neighborhood is fairly quiet at night so it’s not exterior noises or light that wake me. I don’t have sleep apnea. I may have a glass of red wine a couple times a week but I have even cut that out recently. I was having to get up to go to the bathroom at least once a night, but am now taking a prescription for overactive bladder that has mostly eliminated that (no pun intended). I know that once I get core muscles stronger, I may be able to stop taking the prescription.

          I always feel great when I finish my walks and exercises. So I know that I am doing well in that area. It’s just frustrating that the weight doesn’t “fall off” like it does for so many others.

          I have read about the carb reloading so I will start incorporating that as well as trying to figure out a way to do the bike sprints. The osteoarthritis in my left knee is pretty painful most days so it’s hard to get moving. But I always feel better afterwards. At 55 I am only on one prescription med so I feel pretty good about that. I know that I am pretty healthy except for the weight issue.

          Thanks for the words of encouragement.

          Andrea Canavan wrote on November 25th, 2013
        • Stacie & Andrea –

          I can certainly relate! I’m a 49 year old female… still peri-menopausal. Have had great success with this way of eating. Prior to discovering PB I was pre-diabetic… fasting glucose was at 102. Now its 84 and my cholesterol numbers have moved into the fabulous range (smile).

          So for me it’s interesting because I’m considered morbidly obese by normal measures. I’d love to get this weight off, though and it’s a struggle. My joints and back would thank me but I feel good about my health otherwise. I think as women get older it’s more a matter of hormones.

          Lisa wrote on November 25th, 2013
  27. I’ll be in the hotseat! My diet is around 65% primal, but I am a recovering vegetarian and still struggle to choose meat and veggies over grains and fruit. Right now I’m trying to reduce the amount of fructose and FODMAP containing foods in my diet, and eliminate gluten altogether. I know these things make me bloated, hungry and sick-I also know they are addictive! My goal for today is to cook a big batch of primal soup to take to work every day. No more eating out!

    Alisa wrote on November 21st, 2013
  28. I do not know what in the name of Jehovah I am, but I think its somewhere in the realm of Primal/Lurker.

    I’ve been what I think of as primal for about two months, although I suspect I haven’t been and might still not be fully primal due to my fear of calorie consumption and I suppose food itself, leading me to use protein powder with almond milk as a meal replacement. (I’m down to just breakfast now, it used to be breakfast and dinner.)

    I started at 143 pounds at 5’3″. Not an ideal healthy weight by any means, but you wouldn’t laugh if you saw me. I’m down to 127 now since going primal, but the problem is that I can’t see the bleeding difference. I feel like nothing I do works. I don’t have the energy promised on the primal blueprint. I’m tired all the time. I’m aware that I’m probably raising my cortisol levels due to my disgust in my own skin, but I really can’t control it. I don’t look like what I thought I would at 127. I practice sprints, I lift weights, I work in service so I walk a lot every day. I have hormonal imbalances I’m sure, (irregular/absent periods) and I keep waiting for my levels to improve, nada. I feel like there’s mixed info everywhere. “IFing is GREAT!” and then “Women shouldn’t IF!!” or “Keeping low carb the weight falls off” and then “Women need more carbs!” “Don’t worry about calories!” “You need to eat at a deficit!”

    I just want to be 22 again and enjoy my life and body. I realize that that has to be an internal thing, but I can’t see myself practicing it while I feel this way.

    Sorry to infect you lovely folks out there with my negativity! I just needed to vent, sincerely. I feel like some kind of mutant that Primal lifestyle has overlooked. That, and my sister threatened to shoot me if I said “Paleo” one more time.


    Becca wrote on November 21st, 2013
    • Oh my Becca, two months may not be long enough to help you feel like leaping small buildings in a single bound. However, I would like to encourage you to keep eating this way and move forward. I’ve been helped so much by eating this way and moving more. Sometimes I feel like I have more energy than my little 11 year old boy, who seems to NEVER stop. It’s gradual but some day you’ll just notice that a lot of problems and pain is gone and you don’t mind just standing (instead of looking around for a chair to sit). That’s how it felt for me at least. It’s been about a year for me and I’ve yet to leap a small building but who knows on my way home today? Just might try it.

      2Rae wrote on November 21st, 2013
  29. Enjoy the information, don’t really enjoy the food. I know “enjoyment” isn’t the primary reason we eat, and perhaps in my case it shouldn’t be a reason at all. I can make a recipe once and like it; then I make it a second time and never want to see it again. If I even smell coconut or eggs at this point, I have to suppress a gag. (God forbid they be in the same dish…) I don’t crave things like bread or pasta or candy, either. Extremely spicy food is occasionally an exception, thank goodness.

    As a child, I was not a picky eater and derived enjoyment from a range of foods, particularly fresh vegetables, so I hate that I am picky now. It’s baffling. It seems so immature. But it’s amazing how difficult it is to choke down food you really don’t like. You’d think it would just be a case of sucking it up. It is, in fact, possible to suck it up at least part of the time, otherwise I would be starving.

    rudy wrote on November 21st, 2013
  30. I lurk as well! My excuses are time and money.

    I’m a 3rd year PhD student and work an average of 15 hours a day, 6 days a week (usually with one or two all-nighters sprinkled in each week). Though given my constraints, I think I do pretty well. I try to workout 4x a week (yoga, weights, interval running, and long walks) and eat clean though not always grain-/dairy-/etc-free. On nights when I have to skip sleeping, I tend to get lazy and have oatmeal or yogurt for breakfast and may miss a workout. And on the money end of things, if there’s a free lunch (fellow grad students, you know what I’m sayin’) I’m all over those sandwiches because all I brought for lunch that day was probably a sweet potato for the microwave.

    So, I will keep lurking until I have the mental capacity to turn down that free piece of pizza after a 36 hour shift in lab, but I enjoy the regular motivation from you guys actually being primal. Good work :)

    Natalya wrote on November 21st, 2013
  31. I was just whining to myself about other people’s lack of commitment to a work issue, and then I read this.

    I’ve been reading MDA since early 2010 when a co-worker pointed me to it. I’ve consumed everything I can here, worked to apply it, still no success. I’ve got 100 pounds of pain I’ve been working to let go of for years and they are not budging.

    I’m gluten and corn intolerant, known about it since college when I was tested for allergies. I’ve been pretty good about it over the last couple years, as five other people at work are either full ceilac or gluten free. I do most of the food event planning, so if its safe for me, it’s safe for them.

    Where I fail with primal/paleo is sugar, emotional eating, movement and sleep. I’m working with a therapeutic coach to deal with the emotional issues. I’ve invested in an EM Wave 2 to help when I get overwhelmed. I’m working with my chiro and a massage therapist to get my body back to where I can exercise & move relatively pain free.
    When I get moved to my new home next month, I will have a new bed and a room that I can completely black out at night without having to wear a sleep mask. I will have stairs to sprint up, access to safe trails I can walk.

    I’m doing my best. Some days it doesn’t feel like enough.

    Beth wrote on November 21st, 2013
  32. I’ve lurked for abut 6 months before taking the plunge by buying the book and getting some cookbooks from the library. But the past couple days I have gone a bit off track. This was exactly what I needed to move on from my mistakes. Thanks Mark!

    Meredith wrote on November 21st, 2013
  33. Hello,

    I think sometimes we get stuck. We self medicate when we’re not feeling loved, respected, valued, etc.

    If we were to feel our optimal selves would we, should we, could we, continue in the same unhealthy, or unhappy pattern. IE: staying with a job, spouse, or social situation that makes us feel less than whole?

    Sometimes we put off the inevitable by keeping ourselves down. It allows us to stay in this state of limbo so that we don’t have to take action.

    The unknown is scary and the present situation may not be unpleasant enough for us to jump up and down and make changes.

    A life unfulfilled can be the one that drags on unchallenged.

    Chris wrote on November 21st, 2013
  34. I was a lurker of the worst kind: a vegan! For two years I was a vegan and a follower of MDA for about half of it. I firmly believed (and still do) in everything you post. Despite being an avid follower, I still chose to get my protein from tofu, beans, nuts, and veggies. Very recently I have decided to eat meat again and cut the crap (I mean beans). I have never felt better.

    Kim wrote on November 21st, 2013
  35. I am also a lurker and although my eating habits are close to primal I don’t follow it to the letter. I tried following the lifestyle religiously for a while but inevitably fell off the wagon. I firmly believe that if you try to be too strict with your diet, lifestyle etc you will eventually cave and end up swinging massively the other way. For a while I rebelled and stuffed myself with all the bad carbs I could find, cakes, biscuits, bread etc. I felt terrible but just couldn’t stop. Eventually I found a book which encouraged me to realise I was totally in control of what I ate and that I was free to eat whatever I wanted whenever I wanted it. Realising this was key for me – now I eat what I choose to eat and I choose to eat things that make me feel good rather than sticking to any diet or even ‘blueprint’. As it happens the foods that make me feel good are generally primal but if I fancy something non primal I will just have it. I never resist a craving or desire for any food as that way binge eating lies for me. It’s just that these days I don’t tend to fancy non primal foods that often.

    Jester wrote on November 21st, 2013
  36. Good advice.
    How I got on this “bandwagon” was that I felt better getting rid of grains, stopped gaining weight when I got rid of beans THEN my chiropracter said it sounded like I was Paleo. So I looked around and wound up here. There is so much good information here that I try to read every day. Giving a name of Primal or Paleo was helpful to me so that I could find cook books that would support my new eating style.
    So I would encourage all who are not yet living this way (sitting on that fence) to put your right foot in….. then the left……. then get as far away from that fence as you can!
    I have friends and relatives who may be closer to pain free if they could adopt better eating as a start, sigh.

    2Rae wrote on November 21st, 2013
  37. Yep, this was me until six days ago. I have been here a while, maybe a year, I’m genuinely not sure, but it has taken until this last weekend to say enough is enough.
    I already knew about my dairy, grain & yeast issues, from some personal and painful experiences, but I would still slip back to the old ways. I read PB in the last few months, then life got in the way and it was easy to make excuses. I was still looking at this more from a diet perspective.
    It was only this last weekend with more reading, and considering this from a health standpoint that Mark’s words about inflammation got through – now I really do look at grains as poison.
    Sorry if I repeated what anyone else said. I wanted to say my experience before reading the other posts! I hope that I can make this the start of the rest of my life, but even if I fall off the wagon, I reckon I’ll keep getting up and getting back on it – as it were, of course, cos Grok would just walk on 😉

    Autumn wrote on November 21st, 2013
  38. I find myself going through cycles of being really committed to PB, and then something will happen to knock me off course – I’ll miss a meal, or I’ll be too tired to make dinner and thus have no lunch the next day, or I’ll go through a depressive incident and revert to my practiced behaviour of eating empty carbs.

    Trying to get my diet and my mental health and my sleep to all work at optimal levels is an ongoing struggle, and as soon as I start to make progress on one, the others slide.

    I should be getting tested for sleep apnea soon, and hopefully will manage to get my sleep under control. ^_^

    Erica wrote on November 21st, 2013

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