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13 Feb

5 Things People Assume About Me That Are Wrong

wrongAs Mark’s Daily Apple and the Primal community have grown in popularity, I hear a lot of stuff bandied about. Some of it is positive, some negative, and that’s to be expected. You can’t please everyone – I would probably be surprised if no one ever criticized me. However, I’ve noticed that for whatever reason, some people have a skewed perception of my opinion on certain issues. Maybe it’s my fault for not being more clear. Maybe they just haven’t plumbed the depths of MDA (I don’t blame them; it’s got some deep archives) to find the truth, instead going on what someone else told them. But whatever the reason, I have an obligation to set the record straight. I don’t want people getting the wrong idea about me or my ideas.

In this post, I’m going to describe five common misinterpretations about me and then explain where I truly stand. You may still disagree with me. That’s cool. At least then you’ll be able to criticize me for what I actually said or wrote.

So, what are some things people assume about me that are wrong?

That I support unlimited calories, endless grams of fat, and constant relentless gorging.

To my knowledge, I’ve never claimed that calories don’t matter (cue frantic searching of MDA archives). On the contrary, I’ve held that while calories are the ultimate arbiters of weight management, the beauty of a Primal eating plan is that obsessively counting, tabulating, graphing, and monitoring calorie intake often becomes unnecessary. You’re eating nutrient-dense and calorie-sparse plants, nutrient-dense animals (and their fat), and nutrient-dense and calorie-dense starchy plants (when desired/required), and you just need less food than before. You’re sated, you enjoy the food, you’re sufficiently nourished, and so you don’t eat as much. You’re not telling yourself not to eat X amount of calories; you just don’t get hungry for all those extra calories and so it’s not an issue that requires conscious thought. Some people may even find counting counterproductive to weight loss if the counting intrudes on their enjoyment of normal life and becomes a significant source of stress.

If you somehow find the will and desire to gorge endlessly on multiple thousands of calories of coconut oil and butter and red palm oil and mac nuts and grass-fed beef and wild-caught salmon, you can and likely will gain weight (and fat). All I’m saying is this: why would you ever want to? Calories do matter, though. I’ve always said that.

That I hate carbs in any form.

The reality is that I view carbs as an elective source of calories to be divvied out according to training volume, performance goals, and individual variation in tolerance/desire. If you’re regularly engaging in lots of anaerobic activity (HIIT, sprinting, heavy lifting, mid-to-high intensity endurance training, sports like soccer, basketball, football), you should probably eat more carbs to the tune of 100 extra grams per hour of anaerobic output. If you’re just doing lots of walking, lifting once or twice a week, and throwing in a sprint session every now and then, you’ll probably be fine underneath the Primal carb curve. I gear my recommendations toward regular folks getting regular, but not excessive or elite level, amounts of activity – the people who juggle work, family, sleep, and leisure with exercise. That’s me, that’s most of you, but it’s not everyone. If I come off as a carb basher, it’s only because I assume that most people aren’t doing the kind of activity that warrants carb-loading.

I am a big proponent of eating a macronutrient that works for you and your lifestyle and your needs, whatever those look like. I’m also a big proponent of gorging on in-season berries to the point of stomach upset (not really, but kinda). My point is that I don’t hate any and all carbs.

That I hate gyms.

I talk a lot about the benefits of being outside in nature, particularly being active outside in nature. I often suggest that people go for hikes on a weekly basis, preferably with family members (both hominidae and canid). I discuss spiritual encounters in nature, wherein people experience what seem like “mystical” states of mind simply by leaving city limits and rubbing up against some trees and greenery. I’ve explained how exercising outdoors is not only more effective, but also more sustainable – people are more likely to stick with an exercise plan when they do it outdoors. What wins?

Trail running through a forest of redwoods with the brilliant morning sun shimmering through the canopy overhead or jogging on a treadmill while watching close captioned American Idol?

Sprints on a beach (complete with adjacent natural sea salt cold dip wave pool) or sprints on a track?

Stand up paddle boarding on blue-green seas or, well, there isn’t really a gym equivalent to that one, is there?

I’ll always choose to workout outside if I can. Of course, I live in Malibu, where winter is when surfers wear hooded sweatshirts with their shorts and sandals, so I have the luxury of exercising outdoors year round. Many people do not. Perhaps my perspective is skewed.

That said, I like gyms. I work out in a gym on a regular basis. And bulky, oddly shaped natural objects like rocks and logs are fun to pick up and put down, and you can get really strong using them, but barbells, weight vests, kettlebells, and other manmade fitness tools are arguably better for building pure, raw strength. You know what? Make like Arnold and lug a barbell and some weights out to the forest and get the best of both worlds.

That I hate any and all forms of cardio.

One of my earliest and most popular posts was my tirade against chronic cardio, or the kind of extended mid-to-high intensity endurance training that made me sick, broke down my body, required me to eat an inflammatory diet laden with cheap refined carbs, destroyed my social life, and sapped my will to live. My terrible experience with high-level endurance training helped me find a more sustainable, more Primal path. It got me where I am today, basically. It was the impetus for my search for something better. I guess you could say I’m not a big fan.

I’ve become known for that stance on chronic cardio, but many people assume that distaste extends to all cardio. They assume I roll my eyes at people who ride their bikes to work, who run a 5k every now and then, who use the rower at the gym, who go hiking with heavy rucksacks, who swim laps. I don’t hate all cardio, though. I mean, how many times have you gotten annoyed with how often I tell people to walk, hike, and otherwise move around at a slow pace? That’s “cardio.” I fully support all forms of movement that result in improved health and happiness. I’ve mentioned before that my characterization of an activity as chronic cardio is more qualitative than quantitative. Rather than hewing to some objective standard, it often comes down to your subjective response. For me, running more than five miles or so becomes a race, even if I’m the only one around. I stop enjoying the run and start to focus on how fast I’m going, how far I’ve gone, and how much I can push it. I get sucked in to the competitive tunnel.

I’m not even against running the occasional marathon, if you truly enjoy it and it improves your quality of life. But training for marathons round the clock? Logging 15-20 miles a day? I can’t in good conscience recommend that people do that in the pursuit of good health. Do it to say you can. Do it because you love it. But don’t do it to live forever.

That I romanticize the hunter-gatherer existence.

I don’t romanticize anything (except, perhaps, grass-fed meat). I simply acknowledge the reality of our situation: humans, as a species, have evolved under various selective pressures and environments, and by studying those pressures and environments, we can learn about what lifestyle interventions might work for us, today, in the here and now. Moreover, we undoubtedly did not encounter 10-hour workdays consisting solely of sitting on our duffs, penned in by cubicle walls, isolated from our fellow humans (except by choice). We did not eat sugar, seed oil, and grain slurries out of colorful boxes and plastic packaging. It is a simple fact that some things about our modern existence are screwy and ridiculous, and when we spend our days sitting down, completely isolated from nature, from other humans (in the flesh), from edible plants and animals in their original packaging (absent some fur, perhaps), problems arise.

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors spent most of their lives outdoors. One wonders if perhaps spending time outdoors is therefore “normal” for our physiology and we should do it more often. Sure enough, recent scientific evidence shows that being outdoors confers numerous health benefits upon humans. Health benefits that we can verify with actual biomarkers.

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors got a decent amount of sunlight (being outdoors), depending on where in the world they lived. One wonders if perhaps sun exposure provides any benefit to modern humans. Sure enough, evidence suggests that vitamin D (which humans make from sun exposure) performs many physiological tasks, like immune modulation and bone calcium resorption, vital to our health. (Also, sunny days tend to make people happy, which counts for a lot.)

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors experienced high infant mortality. High infant mortality is not very good for human health.

Our hunter-gatherer ancestors did not have access to modern medical technology. Modern medical technology is good for human health.

Do I think we can gain valuable insight about what makes us tick and what works today by examining the ancestral environment? Yes, absolutely. 

Am I happy to live in the 21st century where babies generally survive and people can hold all the world’s knowledge (and then some) in the palm of their hands and casually implore lightning to do their bidding with a flick of a switch? Heck yes.

To say that certain selective pressures helped determine the physiology of modern humans and that we can glean helpful and relevant lessons from studying (or even speculating about) said pressures is not to say that everything was perfect back then and we need to return to that perfect Edenic (that wasn’t) lifestyle. It’s just saying what it says. Nothing more.

What other misconceptions about me and my message have you seen out there? Lemme know in the comment section! Thanks for reading, folks.

You want comments? We got comments:

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  1. How do we know our hunter gather ancestors had high infant mortality?

    Colleen wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Thank you Mark for articulation and precision re WRONG column this week! I appreciate your lively defense and explanations! You have carefully demonstrated (again) the huge challenge of educating the masses (and the motivated educated public following you!) w/o getting too personal and subjective. The facts are there. You capture and interpret them nicely. My experience as primary care physician is that the average lay person doesn’t really want to work hard, think carefully, live close to the Earth, and recognize the primal instincts we tend to suppress. Keep it up!

      Chris wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Great post — too bad you have to defend yourself, Mark.

        Elaine wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Great post Mark.

          There’s a new term on the internet called ‘paleo-tards’ because of all the misconceptions and selective listening people do.

          This clears some of that up.

          Good job.

          Sam Lloyd wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Agree – it’s sad that a lot of people like to make $#!* difficult. Please stay true.

          Julie wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • I guess it’s like anything – people just assume.

          To be honest I fell into this category before reading more on the site and assumed Mark was super anti-cardio (works for me.. I hate it anyway ;) ).

          Glad to see him clear up some misconceptions though.

          Alexander wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • How can anybody digress what you do? How dare they give you crap or make you out to be some sort of con artis and sort for personal gain? Ok your personal gain is to save and help millions of lives! Such a terrible thing to do!

        But seriously why on earth can you be misconceived by giving out valuable in-depth information absolutely free! This place is a gold mine and I can’t express enough how excited I get when I have a question and thought and all the little gems are on here! Free! It is my number 1 recomendation for people to come here, the literature is great, the information is top notch but best of all the person who writes/sets out this whole thing is a really top top guy.

        *middle finger errects in direction of @holes*

        Gunnersaurus49 wrote on February 14th, 2013
        • Alexander nailed it – People just assume.Funny how some us can read the same material and come away with none of the misconceptions described.

          Gord, Vancouver wrote on February 20th, 2013
    • From archeological studies of the fossil records. They were also much more prone to death by accident and disease than we are today.

      The problem with “all that data” is that you end up with an “average age of death of 35″ and most people think that means that our primal ancestors only lived to be 35. The fact remains, again from the fossil records, that many individuals lived into their 70′s, but an equal number lived short lives or died at birth, hence the *average* age of death of 35.

      MMYoung57 wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • No, not much more prone to disease. Accidents, starvation, parasites, etc yes, but not DISEASE.

        Laurie wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Disease isn’t as huge and recurring issue when you have only small groups of people; its when you get mingling and mixing and large crowds and poor sanitation that you get disease. With small family groups of 10-15 people that don’t frequently meet other folks, you don’t have vectors for infectious disease.

          As far as things like cancer; they can and did happen well before modern times.

          Paul wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Maybe not “disease” like oh, diabetes, but a lot of them sure did die from basic infection before antibiotics came around.

          Gwenn wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Common sense, plus over a century of medical observation & observation of other primates.

      It’s like asking, “How do we know our hunter gather ancestors got the trots every once in a while?”

      michael wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • well, it is pretty easy to guess why. medical wasn’t good. predators are another, and knowing now how births can go…..meaning breach, chord wrapped around the babies neck. so, infant mortality is very high, especially in those days and not too long ago either. more because of farm fatalities. just saying?

      melanie wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Human birth is tricky and probably the trickiest on the planet, thanks to competing factors of big brain size for thinking and small hip size for walking.

        On the other hand, it’s not quite the automatic death sentence for either mother or child that we’ve made out it out to be. Wrapped cords don’t always mean suffocation. We are social, knowledge based animals that can create ways to over come breech births, etc. (Knowledge to safely deliver breeches were was much more widespread before C-sections became safe and common.)

        If I had to pin down the reasons for high infant mortality based on my own experiences, it would be yes, tricky births but maybe as important factor is that our babies are born “young”.

        I think only marsupials birth offspring in worse conditions then humans. It will take an infant 3 months to lift their head. As social creature, it can’t even smile. A human newborn completely requires at least mediocre parenting and a half decent environment for first 3 months (really 12)to grow and survive.

        It does not take much – either in the form of trauma, disease, lack of food, or bad parenting to kill a newborn infant. :(

        Amy wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Lots of hunter gatherer baby skeletons. Many young mothers died in child birth as well.No OB/GY’s back then.

      Digger wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • The baby skeletons are unfortunately, easy to count.

        I’ve often wondered, however, about the assumption that young healthy women were dropping like flies during the childbirth process. That one is a bit counter intuitive. Some losses, yes, especially if a woman is sick or undernourished. Higher than most animals, yes. But I don’t see how we’re in the billions either if either the physical process or the help a primitive tribe could provide was so woefully lax.

        Amy wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • If you don’t believe it, look at the maternal mortality in parts of Africa- 1 in 7 pregnancies in some parts. This is few enough for population growth, but pretty appalling.

          Ectope wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • So using those numbers, that’s an 85% maternal survival rate for any random pregnancy. Again, no adjustments for maternal age, numbers of previous children, or maternal health at the time of birth.

          It’s possible that those are also worst case scenarios as well. There are people in Africa living on the very edge of every resource. There are people who are not. Africa is very big place. ;)

          I agree not great, but ironically, I think the numbers suggest my point. *If* they are drawn from the parts of Africa where there’s not enough of everything, the process works amazing well.

          Amy wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Infection is the culprit. They weren’t dropping like flies; they were just substantially more prone to die than we are today in the U.S. (check out African stats on death due to childbirth: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/12/maternal-mortality-rates-millennium-development-goals ).

          There’s a reason we spent so long as a small population, and then suddenly reached billions (and it’s not the help of primitive tribesmen).

          michael wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • The average pelvic inlet depth was much larger in the late paleolithic than among modern Africans who, by and large, grew up on farinaceous diets. This will explain much of the difficulty in modern childbirth.

          http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w/angel-1984/angel-1984-1a.shtml

          D Foltz wrote on February 14th, 2013
        • Micheal -

          Exactly. It’s not the process that kills the women. It’s the infections/hemmoraging and generally vulnerable position of both mother and child around the act of child birth.

          Totally not arguing against modern medicine by the way. I am argueing that society is giving credit to OB/GYNs for the general advances of better food, better sanitation and improvement. Childbirth in of itself generally does not kill women – it’s the crap that it leaves woman and child vulnerable to that does.

          Amy wrote on February 14th, 2013
    • Check the research papers and look at the hunter-gatherer societies known more recently.

      Cindy H. wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • It’s possible to estimate birthrate and ancient population at different times by reverse engineering modern DNA. Plus we can look at infant mortality in modern hunter-gatherers and in various wild animals to get some idea. Humans are very fertile and highly motivated to reproduce, if every child had lived to reproduce we would probably have reached our present high population density long ago.

      George @ the High Fat hep C Diet wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • The archaeological record demonstrates high infant mortality in hunter-gatherer populations. Also higher mortality of women during or immediately after childbirth.

      Goody wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • If there’s a skeleton of a full term baby inside a woman, yes, I’d buy she died in childbirth. In all seriousness, how do bones show a woman died “immediately” after child birth? I though bones only could show whether or not a woman had a vaginal birth. (I don’t know for sure, which is why I’m asking.)

        Amy wrote on February 14th, 2013
    • Agree with this question. Birth and natural care for infants does not lead to infant mortality! What were they dying from?

      Susan wrote on February 17th, 2013
    • there is still high infant mortality in developing countries? that said, the us rates aren’t so hot either. we should all do what Singapore does.

      Mark, I had an allergist bring up the “caveman diet” and say that it only reduced allergies associated with IBS and Crohn’s because it was just lamb, rice, and some vegetables. I held my tongue since he didn’t seem very educated or interested. plus, it wasn’t my appointment, so I wasn’t passing him too sit there

      summer wrote on February 19th, 2013
    • I think maybe Mark was speculating that infant mortality was higher 5,000 years ago, because it was considerably higher 100 years ago.

      Gary wrote on February 19th, 2013
    • Infant mortality was high due to many of the reasons that have already been stated. Humans are just not built as well as some animals are for live birth. We like to romanticize the process to give women confidence, but that doesn’t mean it’s a perfect process. You can look at human biology and see that it’s far from perfect. Modern day birth is safer because we have sanitized birthing areas, better access to food, and in most Western cultures midwives or doctors. Not all tribal societies had that. Some tribes wanted women to birth alone while others made it a social event. If you’re out in the woods by yourself giving birth to a baby there is a long list of things that can go wrong. If it’s a breech birth how easy will it be to fix yourself? If you want some good examples of why infant deaths were high read Jared Diamond’s book, “The World until Yesterday.” He relates one story from a colleague of his (forgot the tribe) where a mother and her infant died in childbirth because only her parents were allowed to help and they were not around to do so. She was screaming and crying that the baby wouldn’t come and was breech but no one offered to help. The colleague went to help but the tribe said not too and that she wouldn’t want his help because he was not a parent. He found out that she and the baby died that night. WE, a society in the information age might now how to work around breech babies without C-sections but that doesn’t meant that tribal groups had that knowledge. That tribe is probably on the extreme end of unhelpful and other tribes are the complete opposite. But, that is one of many reasons why infant death was high in some areas.

      Desdemona wrote on February 22nd, 2013
    • because hunter gather societies still exist and their mortality rates are known? We could infer that the same was for our ancestors. It also seems logical that children would find surviving natural environments more difficult than adults for a range of reasons such as lack of speed, strength and lack of experience. There is a book i read while studying ecology in the 80′s called “why big fierce animals are rare” and it makes the case that predators do not attack healthy adults (of prey species) unless they are desperate. They go for the weak and young first. I suspect that would have accounted for a number of infants as well.

      Marty wrote on February 13th, 2014
  2. Ah, the black and whiter’s. It’s so easy for so many reasons. First you could be too lazy to fully read and understand. Second you could want a quick, easy fix and oversimplify. Third (the insidious reason) you could simply want to knock down someone you don’t agree with by promoting disinformation just like they did to Dr. Atkins! Of course there is the worthless media soundbite also.

    Groktimus Primal wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Groktimus, I agree with you, but also think that sometimes, people need oversimplified answers to tough problems. Its awesome if people want to get into the deep science of nutrition, but some people just need to know how to do it, and need motivation to start.

      Max wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • It reminds me of when I first started low-carb, which not only helped my fitness level, but cured my depression as well.

      People were always (seriously, ALWAYS) saying things to me like, “What makes you think having bacon-covered lard dipped in cheese sauce every day is healthy?”

      I’ve learned to expect ignorance of ignorant people.

      michael wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Agree 100% specially on the Atkins issue, many people who berate him have never read his book. And in my book he was a hero! Kudos to Gary Taub who in “Why we get fat” gives Atkins due credit.

      wildgrok wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Agreed on Atkins. I read his book cover to cover when I was trying to lose weight initially.

        The diet and his recommendations were absolutely nothing like stereotype I had heard.

        It seems like it’s just the hazard of being out there with your opinions if they are not mainstream. People hear what they want to hear and no more.

        Amy wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • I am re-reading it (for the third time, first time after being primal), I am highlighting all the pages where he recommends pasture fed meats, etc. I remember watching the videos where he said that he ate more greens than many vegetarians!. His death was a big loss. People associate the Atkins diet with the initial induction phase of two weeks at 25 grams of carbs. But you know what? I don’t think there is a better system to reset a deranged carboholic metabolism than those two weeks (primal systems included). Is it hard? Yes. Does it work? Yes. You will be a fat burning beast within two weeks of Atkins. May he rest in peace.

          WildGrok wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I am a big believer in that NOTHING is black or white.

      Primal Toad wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • Except maybe zebras and penguins!

        Primal Osprey wrote on February 13th, 2014
  3. Awesome. One of the more enjoyable posts I’ve seen in a long time.

    I enjoy reading forums and I’ve seen quite a few of these wrong assumptions on where you stand. I appreciate the clarity and hopefully it helps those of us who are still struggling.

    Chris Lampe wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Amen! :)

      Deb wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Me too! Mark this is one of your best posts yet. When I say I am paleo/primal-leaning, these are probably the top 5 things that people throw at me and I am never sure exactly how to answer them.

      maggie wrote on February 13th, 2013
  4. Great Article! Hopefully it helps some have a better understanding of the basic principles. Looking forward to Austin Primal Con. Have an awesome and safe day everyone.
    Rod

    Rod Hilton wrote on February 13th, 2013
  5. Where did this post come from? The primal laws are very easy to understand and implement. People, if you’re failing look for help but don’t blame Mark.

    MattyT wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I was introduced to MDA about 4 months ago. I read everything I could find on the site and starting following in my own way what was right for me. I never had any of these misconceptions about Mark or MDA. If you read carefully, the plan and philosophy are incredibly clear.

      Casey wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I think Mark is saying, “When we assume, it makes an ASS out of U and ME”

      Nocona wrote on February 13th, 2013
  6. Hello there,

    New to your site, was just wondering about your thoughts on fruits and vegetables and how many servings should you have daily.

    Cyndie wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • “The more, the merrier” comes to mind.

      Brian wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Sometimes.
        Too many vegetables bloats me and forces peristalsis too fast.
        I barely ate any fresh fruit or vegetables for the past few months and then a couple days ago a friend fed me a nice snack of some carrots and celery, it was like taking a health potion in a video game.

        Animanarchy wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Cyndie, click on the Start Here section to find out more about the Primal Blueprint.

      Pure Hapa wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Hi Cyndie -You can learn sooo much from the sites, archives, etc., but if you want a really in depth understanding, read the books! For me both The Primal Blueprint and The 21Day Body Transformation were well worth the read, and I still refer to them all the time. (Didn’t mean to sound like an advertisement here, but loved the books, lol) .

      Rene R wrote on February 13th, 2013
  7. By the way, I’m going to start logging into your website and hopefully get to a place where I can take up some of your suggestions.. Thank you.

    Cyndie wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Cyndie – you are already there! Take a look around the site, especially the ‘Start Here’ section as Pure Hapa suggests, and check out some of the Success Stories. You are sure to find at least a couple of nuggets that you can put to use in your own life today! Enjoy!!

      EmpressE wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I love Mark’s site but if you want some other good sites I highly recommend Jimmy Moore and Jack Kruse.

      http://jackkruse.com/brain-gut-6-epi-paleo-rx/

      http://www.jackkruse.com/blog-index/

      The Leptin Prescription starting with the blog on the bottom at the first is great.

      http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/n1

      Jimmy Moore has several podcasts and his recent Nutritional Ketosis N1 posts are very interesting.

      I also love Peter Attia’s stuff. Great articles on Ketosis, Saturated Fat, Cholesterol, and more.

      http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/how-did-we-come-to-believe-saturated-fat-and-cholesterol-are-bad-for-us

      http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-part-i

      Jonathan wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • While these sites are interesting, they are heavily biased to very low carb diets. Very low carb paleo is not for everyone and very low carb is not the only way to lose weight, in fact it can be counter productive if you are doing intense exercise like CrossFit.

        julianne wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • I’m a big fan of intense weight lifting or HIIT which can be done once or twice a week.

          Both forms of activity can be done with a Ketogenic diet. Jimmy Moore in his latest Nutritional Ketosis posts has been doing High Intensity weight training ala slow burn/Body by Science type workouts.

          Even including doing it while in a fasted state. Apparently people can become pretty well adapted to using fat for fuel.

          I read a recent post on Jack’s site about refilling Glycogen really fast with the Phosphate Pentose Pathway…don’t remember exactly how it worked.

          As long as someone isn’t completely Glycogen depleted from what I can tell you can do quite a bit of activity on fat stores with the right adaption.

          Jonathan wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I love all of Mark’s articles and his entire site but the best information I have gotten have come from the Comments Section after the articles. They’re the best reading!

      Heather wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • There are a lot of great stories and comments in this section, the majority of them civil and respectful.

        Helga wrote on February 13th, 2013
  8. “Am I happy to live in the 21st century where babies generally survive and people can hold all the world’s knowledge (and then some) in the palm of their hands and casually implore lightning to do their bidding with a flick of a switch?”

    Yes… people hold all the world’s knowledge (and then some) in the palm of their hands and STILL don’t know where you stand on these basic concepts.

    zack wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Ha ha! Awesome.

      Karen P. wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Wouldn’t this be funny to try to explain to our great-great-grandparents: “I have a device in my back pocket that can access the collective knowledge of all mankind. I use it to look at pictures of cats and get in arguments with people I don’t know.” :)

      Bri wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • True-I’m somewhat intrigued by the number of cat pictures on my Facebook page …..

        Rene R wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • +1 – Grumpy cat makes my day lol

          Tonya wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • LOL!

        Amy wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Yessss!!! I’m so stealing this…

        Pure Hapa wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Ha!

        Alex wrote on February 13th, 2013
  9. A tiger does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep.

    I appreciate your detailed blogs, and if I think differently or want to explore other points of view, that’s a healthy attitude and doesn’t make you wrong.

    Your advice and that of others in this field have dialed my health clock back 20 years easily.

    Kirk

    Kirk Fredericks wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • How do you know, you could get run over by a truck this afternoon.

      Joe wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Which has nothing do to with his dietary lifestyle. What’s your point?

        Richie wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Before we get into what’s my point I think we should talk about what’s your point.

          Joe wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • It could. The brain needs good food.

          Animanarchy wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Getting run over by a truck has nothing to do with health.

        Kristie wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Actually the getting run over by a truck IS relevant. Please review Primal Law 9. I am just starting on this lifestyle. P283 of The Primal Blue-Print actually but think this is fantastic.

          Dan Owen wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Clever and constructive. Top marks.

        Greg wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • As a matter of fact, I got hit by a truck just two days ago. The fact I was in another truck myself, a fire rescue truck, somewhat mitigated the circumstances. That and the fact I’m committed to Paleo.

        Kirk

        Kirk wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • Hahaha didn’t see that coming

          Alyssa wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Pretty sure he is going to be concerned with public opinions and public perception when that is the basis of any blog.

      Geez wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Well said Kirk!

      I stumbled onto MDA and the Primal Blueprint while doing research before starting Crossfit training (At age 56).

      As a retired law enforcement officer, and owner of a couple of businesses, I research almost everything before randomly throwing myself or my income into it.

      I have to give credit where credit is due! I started out at a little over 250#’s in late October, and today, weigh in at 216#. The first 20#’s of that (MOL), was lost strictly by changing my “dietary lifestyle.”

      The weight loss resulted in an immediate reduction in many of the “daily aches and pains”, which had led me to a more sedintary lifestyle over the last 8-10 years. At the same time, it gave me the energy to become more active.

      As of today, I feel better than I’ve felt in years!

      I Crossfit 3x’s a week, and have implemented several of the changes Mark recommends in my daily lifestyle.

      I am seeing physiological changes that I haven’t seen since I was in my early 30′s!!

      And while I have plateaued again at 216#(+/-), I credit that more to the reduction of fat and the addition of lean muscle tissue.

      My goal was and is, my former military seervice and martial arts competition weight of 195-200; however, I may forego that goal if the changes dictate.

      I’ve read as much as I can possibly digest of Marks information, as well as that of others who hold views similar to his.

      I have also read (and viewed) a large amount of the information provided by those with an alternative viewpoint.

      IMO, both have their points, and both have their purpose.

      The thing that bothers me most, is the constant negativity, the demeaning commentary and childish name calling, from many outside the Primal and/or Crossfit communities.

      Why? Other than to further a personal agenda, is there a real purpose to such rhetoric?

      In decades of martial arts training, it always amazed me how one “style” would claim that their system was better than the rest.

      In the real world where I lived and worked, there was no one “perfect” system. Instead, it was usually a combination of “systems”, along with some good old fashion street fighting and a modicum of common sense, that won the day!

      The same holds true in the diet and training areanas, at least for me.

      In my humble opinion at least, one should do what works for them, what makes them feel/look better, and what in the end makes them healthier.
      If medical science and testing happens to prove out the fact that they are better and/or healthier than when they started, then what’s the gripe?

      In my lifetime as a LEO and former member of our military, it has been brutally obvious, that we have no shortage of reasons to argue, fight and wage war on each other. Why add health and the quest for a fuller, longer, and hopefully happier, life to the list?

      If the lifestyle, diet, or exercise program isn’t for you, doesn’t fit your personal goal(s), or you simply disagree with it, why not just move on to something that does?

      I am always up for lively debate, but when it turns personal or negative, it’s time for me to move on.

      And while I have seen my share of “paleo” or “Primal” purists, and adamant Crossfit followers, I really haven’t noticed a lot of negative commentary out of either of these groups torward other disciplines.

      There really is room in this great world of health, training and nutrition for everyone and thier opinions.

      As for any comment about Marks commercial interest in all of this, all I can say is these sites aren’t free.
      Everyone has to either make a living, or rely on the government (or others) to survive. Taking the second option, would likely be in opposition to Marks “Primal” beliefs, and frankly, we have enough people waiting for the government to support them!

      Mark is a businessman. It costs money to stay in business, and he makes a lot of information available at no charge to those of us who wish to partake of it.

      Mark has chosen a path that he feels helps others, while at the same time supports himself and his family.

      In the end, as long as there is no harm done, I see absolutely nothing wrong with either of these goals.

      Mark, thanks for all you have done and continue to do, to promote health and longevity.

      Gordon

      PS- Sorry for the unbelieveably long post!

      Gordon wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • Congratulations on your success Gordon. It’s good to talk with a fellow Emergency Services person here. This life style has done wonders for me. At 56 years old and 168 pounds, I’m now 3 pounds from my high school weight of 165, and still improving. My worst was when I worked in IT, I was a 220 pound ‘phat bastarde’ as the french say. I’ve competed in the Firefighter Combat Challenge several times in my 40′s, and and seriously considering competing this year (in the old farts Fire Chief division)

        Kirk

        Kirk Fredericks wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • Wow! First I read Margit’s spot-on post and now Gordon’s. I’m honored to be ‘in the company’ of such thoughtful, supportive people. Thanks!

        Mary Anne wrote on February 14th, 2013
      • Gordon~I enjoyed your unbelievably long post!

        Claire Kellerman wrote on February 20th, 2013
  10. See, that’s what happens when you are right , and you are starting to affect a large audience who don’t want to hear it. Or, read anything or Think!

    TrevorK wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • +1

      Chika wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

      Paleo Bon Rurgundy wrote on February 13th, 2013
  11. I find it hard to believe that even a casual reader of this site would come away with those assumptions. Heresay…ptoooi.

    Jan's Sushi Bar wrote on February 13th, 2013
  12. Years ago I noticed that folks in the nutritional field, snipe at one another. From their comments it is usually obvious they have never read the other person’s books or papers.

    Personally, if I was going to make disparaging remarks about someone, I would do them the courtesy of actually reading their book first.

    Stephanie wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • right on, Stephanie!

      Mary Anne wrote on February 13th, 2013
  13. I love articles like this. The mind behind the man ;). but also, it tells me that you and your Worker Bees are out there, reading the forums, getting a sense of the Primal-sphere and where our interests lie. I can recall threads that occurred quite recently and the question of “What Does Mark Thing?” came up. I think the carbs question is probably the most common one.

    Tasha wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I,m sure Mark has a thing…but I see he uses the other head on top of his shoulders just about all the time.

      Nocona wrote on February 13th, 2013
  14. Sweeping generalizations are just another weapon used by those who want to rationalize why they don’t make the changes they know they should. Most people are quite happy thinking our health problems are genetic and beyond our control. If they can make you out to be a fanatic, they can go back to sleep, and that is where the masses are comfortable.

    Dr. Mark wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Agreed. There is no logical explanation for why people are so threatened by the primal/paleo lifestyles of OTHER PEOPLE except that deep down inside they know that there is something very wrong with their own lives. It’s much easier to laugh, point fingers and make excuses than to take full responsibility for one’s own health and life.
      I undergo constant ridicule but I will stand strong (and healthy!).

      Laurie wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Agreed. I also never heard a person in the 60′s and 70′s mention anything about genetics and family genes stuff. Now that americans are so fat and unhealthy, they simply blame it something outside their control. Such a VICTIM mentality in the USA. I for one, am tired of it.

        Nocona wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • So true, and I used to be one of those people until I decided to take responsibility for myself and actions.

          Sharon T wrote on February 13th, 2013
  15. I get the feeling that those who make such assumptions are not regular readers of this blog.

    Carla wrote on February 13th, 2013
  16. Five helpings of easy-to-digest good sense – take note, doubters.

    Rachael wrote on February 13th, 2013
  17. One thing I’ve heard people say, which isn’t really addressed here is “Mark is a hypocrite. He claims to follow the paleo diet and to just eat real food on one hand, yet pushes his supplement line on the other.”

    And, while we all know that to be a bunch of ignorant BS, it would be nice to have something explicit to point to when these idiots pop up.

    PaulL wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Maybe you could point them to the “Grok didn’t take supplements, so why should I?” article! That would at least give his view on supplements.

      Alyssa wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Alyssa, Thanks for that article! It’s an excellent response, and exactly the type of thing I was looking for. Of course, the haters will hate, but at least now I have a better understanding and something with which to answer them.

        Thanks again!

        PaulL wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • No problem, glad I (well, Mark) could help!

          Alyssa wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Agreed. While Mark may sell supplements to those who are interested, has anyone here ever felt PUSHED to buy them? Although I did buy the book, that was before even discovering this site, and I think a person could easily do this whole lifestyle with buying a thing. I’ve never felt pushed to buy anything! I really, really want some of the Primal Fuel, though ….

      Rene R wrote on February 13th, 2013
  18. Mark, you have introduced me to an entirely different way of living. You have encouraged me to buck the system. You have persuaded me to get really and truly physical inside and outside. You’ve given me permission I didn’t know I needed to enjoy my life by playing and not starving. I am a beautiful beast and I couldn’t be happier or more grateful to you. Let the critics critique. They’re just jealous and afraid to give it a go. Sucks for them.

    Megan wrote on February 13th, 2013
  19. You’re one of my heroes. The mother tiger in me immediately responded to the idea that anyone would “dis” you by going into fight mode :).

    Anne wrote on February 13th, 2013
  20. Good stuff as always Mark.

    The larger the audience, the more opportunities for inaccurate information to spread, sometimes quickly too. It also comes back to excuses and being personally accountable for yourself. Essentially, either not educating themselves or having to find someone to blame.

    Cheers!!!

    Bryan wrote on February 13th, 2013
  21. Misinformation is often spewed about ppl doing great things. Mark I commend you for taking the time to set things straight. I guess with time, it becomes hard to just ignore the misinformation. I’m just happy that you continue to educate us on a daily basis. I enjoy every bit.

    Chika wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Very well spoken.

      Glen wrote on February 13th, 2013
  22. I am 34 years old, married with two kids. I started this diet/new way of living in January as my New Years resolution. I have never felt better than I do now. Food today has become so processed how can we digest all those ingredients. Eating healthy helps me get through the day without feeling like it is nap time. You can criticize anything that has to do with dieting nowadays, but following this diet makes you feel great. Plan and simple.

    Jason Beane wrote on February 13th, 2013
  23. This is pretty basic. All one has to do is just LOOK at Mark’s physique, and know that whatever he is doing – is right.

    You are the complete sign of health, Mark. Keep teaching us. THANKS.

    Debrakadabra wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I second that!

      My wife refers to Mark as “that crazy guy” and I correct her saying, “that crazy guy who is ripped and in shape?” hehe

      Paul wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Welllll…yes and no.

      I see this a lot from people, but I think it’s important to remember that he was an elite athlete back in the day before Primal was a twinkle in his eye. The way he looked had no relation to how he felt, as he likes to tell us.

      But I do not believe that he is necessarily a normal, run-of-the-mill guy physiologically. I do think he’s built a bit special. Maybe I’m wrong, and he’ll remark on this on his next episode of inaccuracies about him. ;)

      So yes, Mark is an inspiration. But, as always, your mileage may vary.

      Karen P. wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • I agree. I know plenty of people who are incredibly attractive and in shape, and they eat a Standard American Diet.

        That said, ‘YMMV’ applies to just about everything, but you definitely can’t argue with the collection of success stories on this site! Clearly it works very well for a lot of people (:

        Alyssa wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • I also know plenty of people eating Paleo/Primal and not meeting their goals. I hate to see them get caught up in a vortex of shame when they compare themselves to Mark or others. I’m one of the lucky ones it worked for, but the human body is complex. I think the research into our microbiota will yield many answers on why YMMV is such an important caveat.

          Karen P. wrote on February 13th, 2013
  24. Being a regular mda reader for th last 3 years, I can safely say that anyone who has read this blog in depth would not have these misconceptions. Mark’s always taken the fair view of things and has always maintained that he’s writing this with the average guy or girl in mind. He has also been clear that the appreciates modern technology and tries to live as true to our ancestors as possible. It’s the best of both worlds and it pretty much leaves every reader to adapt the knowledge for his or her self.

    Aloka wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I agree except I did have one small misconception about Mark. I didn’t think he went to the gym quite that often. Makes sense though. If the weather is not nice out, why go to the beach with those huge water bottles he carries around on the sand…

      Nocona wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Yes that’s true. I can’t picture him in a gym!

        Aloka wrote on February 14th, 2013
  25. I and my hubby started the “lifestyle” after bloodwork and recommends from our MD. Your sight was also recommended along with others. I love how down to earth and easy reading it is. We aren’t perfect, but we are also no longer overweight, pre diabetic or pre hypertensive. So thanks for your help. I never misunderstand you, sometimes I just don’t listen!!! HaHa!!!

    Dibdab wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Strangely, this IS a “sight”!!!

      Suzanne wrote on February 13th, 2013
  26. Mark, you need to rethink your approach to working out outdoors. Vey few of us can run under the redwood canopy, especially in February. Here in Rochester, NY exercising outside on icy paths, etc. can actually be dangerous. That’s not saying we don’t ski, snowshoe etc., but a gym is more of a necessity. Your lifestyle and location only match up with a tiny percentage of your readers.
    I’d like to see suggestions for gym workouts that get people away from the treadmill and that can transition to the outdoors.

    Martin Edic wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • When Mark describes the outdoor ideal, he is not telling you that you MUST do this or that – just extolling the virtues of that ideal. We can benefit from learning about human ideals and trying to implement some of these ideals when we can. But no one is going to give you a grade for what you do or don’t do. Mark just said he himself goes to the gym. Just try to enjoy the outdoors when you can.

      Pure Hapa wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I avoid gyms because I don’t like driving or paying to workout, unless I am going somewhere gorgeous (i.e., outside). My answer was KETTLEBELLS! The best, easiest to learn, most fun way to work out at home. Fast, effective, endlessly variable, and are a full body experience, head to toe. Unbelievably effective. 20 minutes of KBs every other day ripped fat off my body, vastly improved my stamina, and lifts my chemistry and mood for hours, improved all my blood work, and can be done anywhere you can swing a cat. Aside from yoga & my outings into nature, KB variations are all I do now.

      kim brakeley wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Only time I work out in gyms is when I can get a free trial membership, and once wanting to get a light workout I asked at night if a gym had that and they didn’t but the person at the desk allowed me to work out that time anyway.

        Animanarchy wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Martin, I live in Minnesota and deal with the same issues that you do weather-wise. Mark had addressed this topic once that I recall reading, with some suggestions on things to do during the winter. I’m guessing it’s somewhere in the archives. That being said, I’m sitting here now, pining for spring so I can get back on my bike and run my sprints across the soccer field at the high school.

      Fred wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Another Minnesotan here. Let’s see, XC skiing, snowboarding and a pick-up hockey game down at the local rink. And that’s just this week! Seriously, it’s not hard to find fun in the winter. I don’t bother running but you tell me hockey isn’t a great sprint workout.

        Tim wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • Get some studded tyres and get back on your bike! Cycling in the snow and ice is the best fun ever!

        fifer wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I think the point is to say that outdoors is the ideal – and I must admit I would love to sprint on the beach and play in the woods, but I can’t – but that bad weather or location shouldn’t stop us exercising and playing anyway!

      Grokesque wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Martin, I think that Mark recognizes the fact that not everyone lives in Malibu. That said, I live in Iowa and I LOVE getting outside in the winter. It’s been pretty mild this winter, so that’s been great, but I’ll still go for a run when it’s snowing and blowing and colder than all get out (my cut-off temperature is zero degrees fahrenheit). Running in the snow (even several inches) is a blast and it’s amazing how alive you can feel getting out on a really cold, crisp winter day. I do spend more time exercising indoors in the winter for sure, but I still make sure I get out at least a few times a week. Does wonders for my psyche and state of mind!

      Lauryn wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • So, what? Mark should say “don’t exercise outdoors – it might be dangerous”? This is exactly how the misconceptions arise. Mark says that outdoor workouts are awesome and that we should try it, but if the weather’s bad, exercise inside or go to a gym. But somehow people only see the first part and decide Mark hates gyms.

      Mark A wrote on February 14th, 2013
  27. A lot of the misinformation comes from the forums, which I stopped reading because of it. People who jump in to the discussions with what they THINK is Primal, but many times is not, from folks who haven’t actually read the Blueprint books and web materials. Then other folks pick up the wrong info and spread it.

    Anyway, the word is spreading fast and furious.

    Pure Hapa wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Amen to the forums comment! I was an avid reader and commenter four and five years ago, but then I noticed the recycling and repetitions of questions and the more than often ignorant responses.

      I thought I’d give it another go a few months ago and it gave me a brain tumor arguing with misinformed people. Scientific ignorance runs rampant here despite Mark’s VERY science based mindset. (IIRC correctly, he has a BA in biology.)

      So, I still love to see what Mark posts, but the forums? Dangerous to one’s mental health.

      OnTheBayou wrote on February 14th, 2014
  28. Great post! You should append this to the “About Me” section of MDA!!

    Paul wrote on February 13th, 2013
  29. People tend to condemn what they don’t understand or what contradicts their own actions. I think we all follow this lifestyle because of the way it makes us “feel”.
    Keep on keeping on Mark.

    Jeremiah wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I have had some people ask what I’d changed about myself, but I’ve learned to not bring it up unless asked. Most folks are interested, if maybe only to be polite, but all of us will sooner or later encounter someone who is downright hostile about Paleo. The latter has had me thinking a lot about why they take this attitude, and all I can come up with is some folks are very “rules based” and they see Paleo as being so far out of line with their “set or rules” that it makes them uncomfortable and they want to shove you back into what they consider acceptible behavior. Showing that “healthy grains” is a marketing term, not a reality is just too much for such folks to tolerate, so they get ugly about it. I’ve even had one person tell me this eating style is crazy because “you aren’t getting enough carbs”! It just shows you how effective advertising can be I guess…

      KitC wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • I have had the same experience. I am 53, and started this lifestyle, combined with intermitent fasting (fast5 style), about 2 years ago. I initially lost about 30 lbs in 6 months. People at work would ask me what I was doing, and when I said “Stop eating sugar and grains, and don’t eat until 3:00 PM”, they would get this look on their faces like – now way I could ever do that. I guess they will just go to their doctor and get some more pills instead. Also on misconceptions, the vegetarian/vegan community often portrays paleo/primal eating as living off of dead animals and nothing else. It’s obvious from comments like that, that they have made no effort to find outwhat it actuslly is.

        Jim wrote on February 13th, 2013
        • That amazes me since the vegetarian community are in the same boat (misinformation ande non acceptance wise) as us. While vegetarinism is generally accepted now there are still quite a few nay sayers out there. Why wouldn’t they accept our lifestyle choices the same as they have loudly and vigoursly demanded people to accept theirs.

          Trish wrote on February 13th, 2013
  30. Mark,
    you are doing something that made your family healthier, happier and wealthier AND you are sharing it with others. Those who listen to your advice gained some valuable knowledge and are thankful to you. Some people always assume lots of nonsense and most of the time it’s just simply out because of envy, ignorance or mean heart. Why even pay attention to that BS?
    I personally don’t even believe that Paleo times in the sense that we picture them ever existed… As a lot of historical evidence suggests, humans lived a high tech life long before, no technology yet can build what has already been built on Earth (pyramids, Machu Pichu, etc). BUT true, humans were much wiser as to being closer to nature and that’s what you are after. I like your views on that and value your advice. Take care.

    Kiki wrote on February 13th, 2013
  31. I have struggled with the calorie misconception with the result that my weight loss has hit a plateau. With the help of your 90-day journal I am now coming to grips with what is too much food – FOR ME. N=1. Great article here. Thanks

    Nancy wrote on February 13th, 2013
  32. Mark your the man.. everything you say makes
    So much sense keep up the good work

    Mark skinner wrote on February 13th, 2013
  33. Well put!! I love the way you approach criticism.

    Suzanne wrote on February 13th, 2013
  34. This comforted me at just the right time Mark. I’ve hit the gym lately (it’s way to cold to work out without pulling something) and I feel like I’ve turned my back on nature but I know i’m just making the best out of my situation. besides, and this is mean but, i kind of get a chuckle/shaking my head moment out of watching people jog on a treadmill for an an hour

    steffo wrote on February 13th, 2013
  35. Ideas are like muscle the more resistance they are subject too the stronger they become , unless they break under the weight.

    It seems to be taking a part of the reasoning they don’t like and they drawing a very unreasonable conclusion that you didn’t make.

    The people that take you out of context are looking for dogma , but all you’re offering is an evolutionary framework to make better decisions, but that won’t stop them from using it dogmatically in argument.

    ADK wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Are we not men? No, we are DEVO…I truly believe we are devolving and getting more ignorant of what truly matters…this electronic age is making us stupid!

      Nocona wrote on February 13th, 2013
      • I think evolution and de-evolution is happening. 7 billion or so people, it can’t all be going the same way.

        Animanarchy wrote on February 13th, 2013
  36. Always gonna be haters :)
    I think sometimes people don’t like to see others being successful in their lives.

    People that are assuming these things just haven’t read enough of the site (or book/s – still waiting for my copy to arrive!)

    I have only been eating this way for a little over a week (started Mon 4th Feb) – I am overweight, my thyroid is underactive, doctors claim I have IBS and I am pretty sure I have been suffering mild depression for a number of years.

    At the moment I feel like this site…and Mark, have saved my life.

    Already I am down 3kg in weight, I have crazy amounts of energy and I am feeling pretty awesome.

    The haters maybe need to open their minds and try it before sharing their view :)

    Nikki wrote on February 13th, 2013
  37. Mark–Great post, but the story that you have an enormous… that’s true, isn’t it? ;)

    Elizabeth wrote on February 13th, 2013
  38. It always bothers me when people say you (or paleo, or primal) are anti-carb. Not sure how this myth has been perpetuated but I’m glad you’re setting it straight.

    Dani wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • Those who criticize low(er) carb diets are likely making the assumption that today’s intake of franken-techno-created, politically-motivated, farm-subsidized levels of carbs are somehow “normal” — and that any deviation downward is somehow “abnormal”.

      Barbara wrote on February 13th, 2013
  39. I don’t know if it counts for much, but having lurked about here for a couple months and having finished reading The Primal Blueprint recently, I didn’t get any of those impressions. I thought your stance on all of those things was pretty clear before.

    Joshua wrote on February 13th, 2013
    • I’ve been trying to get that book from this library for months since asking them to order it… it’s never in!
      And now the cookbooks are here too.

      Animanarchy wrote on February 13th, 2013
  40. great article!! Often some of the same sorta doubts I get from people who question how we eat in live in my family!!

    Joanne wrote on February 13th, 2013

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