Comments on: 1 Meal vs. 3 Meals http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/ Serving up health and fitness insights (daily, of course) with a side of irreverence. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:51:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Justin S http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-468429 Justin S Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:02:16 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-468429 Thanks everyone for tearing down that study. IF is something I'm very interested in and that study went against everything else I have read. Your comments were fun to read. Especially Mike OD. Thanks everyone for tearing down that study. IF is something I’m very interested in and that study went against everything else I have read. Your comments were fun to read. Especially Mike OD.

]]> By: Grok http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-440301 Grok Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:58:27 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-440301 John knows how to read a research paper. I follow a one meal a day plan a lot of the time. This summer I strayed quite a bit, sometimes eating every few hours. The warm weather makes me want to eat more. Of course this isn't scientific by any means... but it would make sense to me biologically, since fresh food is generally much more abundant in the summer and would be a good time to load up and store fat for the more scarce winter months. John knows how to read a research paper.

I follow a one meal a day plan a lot of the time. This summer I strayed quite a bit, sometimes eating every few hours. The warm weather makes me want to eat more.

Of course this isn’t scientific by any means… but it would make sense to me biologically, since fresh food is generally much more abundant in the summer and would be a good time to load up and store fat for the more scarce winter months.

]]> By: Dave http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-293994 Dave Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:46:43 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-293994 I started using I.F first day of the new year. I have been documenting my own findings on my blog. In just over 6 weeks of doing IF, I have found it very easy to follow. 2 fasts per week had become very easy. As of this week I am experimenting with eating one meal on an evening, during the week. I am starting with with fast after my evening meal on a Sunday, and breaking that fast the next evening. Weekends ( from Friday evening) I will eat normally. This fits in well with social gatherings. I should explain that I am using IF to reduce my weight at this point, and not to maintain it. I started using I.F first day of the new year. I have been documenting my own findings on my blog. In just over 6 weeks of doing IF, I have found it very easy to follow. 2 fasts per week had become very easy. As of this week I am experimenting with eating one meal on an evening, during the week. I am starting with with fast after my evening meal on a Sunday, and breaking that fast the next evening. Weekends ( from Friday evening) I will eat normally. This fits in well with social gatherings. I should explain that I am using IF to reduce my weight at this point, and not to maintain it.

]]> By: preston http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-269673 preston Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:02:28 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-269673 Everyone here who is interested needs to check out "The Warrior Diet". There is a science behind one meal a day, and it's pretty convincing. Also, stop by this forum and ask some of the warrior dieters how there health is. There are plenty of people who have increased their health greatly with this one meal a day plan. http://www.defensenutrition.com/forum/ Everyone here who is interested needs to check out “The Warrior Diet”. There is a science behind one meal a day, and it’s pretty convincing.

Also, stop by this forum and ask some of the warrior dieters how there health is. There are plenty of people who have increased their health greatly with this one meal a day plan.

http://www.defensenutrition.com/forum/

]]> By: will http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-269002 will Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:37 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-269002 I fast every third or fourth day for about 23 hours--roughly between 10 pm and 9 pm. I spent an active day at the beach recently--walked for miles, sprints, squatjumps, leaps, broad jumps, lifting and carrying driftwood, and totally forgot I was fasting until driving home in the evening. Have tried many other fasting schedules, but prefer this one. I may also start skipping meals, if not hungry, for more intermittence. I fast every third or fourth day for about 23 hours–roughly between 10 pm and 9 pm. I spent an active day at the beach recently–walked for miles, sprints, squatjumps, leaps, broad jumps, lifting and carrying driftwood, and totally forgot I was fasting until driving home in the evening. Have tried many other fasting schedules, but prefer this one. I may also start skipping meals, if not hungry, for more intermittence.

]]> By: Jay Ferguson http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-179436 Jay Ferguson Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:28 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-179436 I had to have my thyroid removed through radioactive iodine a few years back. Messed up my whole metabolism. Gained at least 50 lbs. Am going to try the one meal a day right now. See how that goes. Been on a variety of diets, but if I don't stop the food from entering in the first place, it can't do anything. My schedule doesn't allow the 6 meal, eat a fruit type diet. And with the solid protein diet, I think I developed 'roids. I had to have my thyroid removed through radioactive iodine a few years back. Messed up my whole metabolism. Gained at least 50 lbs. Am going to try the one meal a day right now. See how that goes. Been on a variety of diets, but if I don’t stop the food from entering in the first place, it can’t do anything. My schedule doesn’t allow the 6 meal, eat a fruit type diet. And with the solid protein diet, I think I developed ‘roids.

]]> By: Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » How To: Intermittent Fasting http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35772 Mark’s Daily Apple » Blog Archive » How To: Intermittent Fasting Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:20:47 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35772 [...] the great discussion last week following the 1 Meal vs. 3 Meals news post, we thought it was a great opportunity to follow up and delve into the nitty gritty of [...] [...] the great discussion last week following the 1 Meal vs. 3 Meals news post, we thought it was a great opportunity to follow up and delve into the nitty gritty of [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35312 Chris Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:42:43 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35312 John B - great comment. Thanks for that. Chris John B – great comment. Thanks for that.

Chris

]]> By: John B http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35265 John B Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:31:49 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35265 I've reviewed both papers cited above. In the second paper that states morning glucose tolerance was worsened. If you analyze the paper itself you will find that this result only happens within the first hour of the test, by the 2 hour point the glucose tolerance of one meal per day vs two meals per day were the same. In the other study, cardivascular end points such as LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, systolic blood pressure, and cortisol were measured. The actualy data shows that LDL AND HDL went up so these effects are cancelling. The reported increase in systolic blood pressure was still within normal range, so this is a non finding ie: blood pressure went from statistically health and normal to statistically health and normal. NO EFFECT! Cortisol actually went down on the one meal per day program. And the biggest confounder of this study was that blood measurements were taken at different times of day for the 3 meal per day group compared to the 1 meal per day group. Many of the blood markers and hormones tested will change simply by the time of day they were taken and how many hours fasted the 3 meal per day vs 1 meal per day group were. The researchers admit this is a limitation of their study that could affect the comparability of the blood test results. And they are right, 12 hours in the morning is much different than 18-20 hours fasted in the afternoon etc...They should have tested both groups at the exact same time of day and number of ours fasted, otherwise the results will not be comparable. The biggest point from this research that nobody here is commenting on is that the 1 meal per day group lost a significant amount of weight and the 3 mealers didn't! Overall this research seems to be saying that one meal per day is just as safe as 3, and in fact you will lose weight! John I’ve reviewed both papers cited above. In the second paper that states morning glucose tolerance was worsened. If you analyze the paper itself you will find that this result only happens within the first hour of the test, by the 2 hour point the glucose tolerance of one meal per day vs two meals per day were the same.

In the other study, cardivascular end points such as LDL, HDL, total cholesterol, systolic blood pressure, and cortisol were measured. The actualy data shows that LDL AND HDL went up so these effects are cancelling. The reported increase in systolic blood pressure was still within normal range, so this is a non finding ie: blood pressure went from statistically health and normal to statistically health and normal. NO EFFECT!

Cortisol actually went down on the one meal per day program. And the biggest confounder of this study was that blood measurements were taken at different times of day for the 3 meal per day group compared to the 1 meal per day group. Many of the blood markers and hormones tested will change simply by the time of day they were taken and how many hours fasted the 3 meal per day vs 1 meal per day group were. The researchers admit this is a limitation of their study that could affect the comparability of the blood test results. And they are right, 12 hours in the morning is much different than 18-20 hours fasted in the afternoon etc…They should have tested both groups at the exact same time of day and number of ours fasted, otherwise the results will not be comparable.

The biggest point from this research that nobody here is commenting on is that the 1 meal per day group lost a significant amount of weight and the 3 mealers didn’t!

Overall this research seems to be saying that one meal per day is just as safe as 3, and in fact you will lose weight!

John

]]> By: Greg Davis http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35146 Greg Davis Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:50:09 +0000 http://www.marksdailyapple.com/3-meals-a-day/#comment-35146 I can totally relate to problems with gorging tendencies. This has been a bit of a struggle for me too, but I think one of the "last steps" to getting this whole paleo/IF thing. Particular the way devany's EF model is described. Notice how he has repeatedly emphasized gorgeing goes against the tenets of the EF way. What I've had to do (which I was so hesistant to do based on how I felt it was not in line with a paleo experience) is break my meals down to relatively small portions. A really big meal, paleo or not, is gonna leave you with the "gorge" feeling -> mainly lethargy. I suspect that the glycemic content of food is not the only factor in insulin control. Devany has alluded to this I think. [the recent research on artificial sweeteners also seems relevant] Just this last week I've been (still in the context of partial IF) splitting a typical meal size into 2 parts, trying to eat until just before that full feeling. Even if I only wait an hour before having a bit more it makes all the difference. I think it falls into place when you finally let go of that last inkling of BB mentality telling you to concern yourself with how many calories to get in. Energy levels seem to be riding high more consistently. And that is the most significant reason I am so interested in paleo/IF in the first place. The way I see things is this: there is a "missing gap" between the evolutionary logic of seasonality, seasonal variations in insulin sensitivity. It just doesn't fit our modern lifestyles to adopt gorge eating habits. A hunter gather likely does gorge to extremes when food is plentiful, and lies around doing nothing after such meals. That is how their seasons rotate between high and low insulin sensitivity. But the EF model is much more elegant than that. One could even argue that it is "transhumanist" in the sense that it deviates significantly from our "natural" lifestyle but manipulates our genes to enhance our hormone profiles to our needs. I can totally relate to problems with gorging tendencies. This has been a bit of a struggle for me too, but I think one of the “last steps” to getting this whole paleo/IF thing. Particular the way devany’s EF model is described. Notice how he has repeatedly emphasized gorgeing goes against the tenets of the EF way.

What I’ve had to do (which I was so hesistant to do based on how I felt it was not in line with a paleo experience) is break my meals down to relatively small portions. A really big meal, paleo or not, is gonna leave you with the “gorge” feeling -> mainly lethargy. I suspect that the glycemic content of food is not the only factor in insulin control. Devany has alluded to this I think. [the recent research on artificial sweeteners also seems relevant]

Just this last week I’ve been (still in the context of partial IF) splitting a typical meal size into 2 parts, trying to eat until just before that full feeling. Even if I only wait an hour before having a bit more it makes all the difference. I think it falls into place when you finally let go of that last inkling of BB mentality telling you to concern yourself with how many calories to get in.

Energy levels seem to be riding high more consistently. And that is the most significant reason I am so interested in paleo/IF in the first place.

The way I see things is this: there is a “missing gap” between the evolutionary logic of seasonality, seasonal variations in insulin sensitivity. It just doesn’t fit our modern lifestyles to adopt gorge eating habits. A hunter gather likely does gorge to extremes when food is plentiful, and lies around doing nothing after such meals. That is how their seasons rotate between high and low insulin sensitivity. But the EF model is much more elegant than that. One could even argue that it is “transhumanist” in the sense that it deviates significantly from our “natural” lifestyle but manipulates our genes to enhance our hormone profiles to our needs.

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