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7 Jul

Dear Mark: 1000 Calories a Day, No Appetite After Exercise, and How to Not Lose Weight

smallmeal 1For today’s Dear Mark, I’m taking three questions. First, I comment on Mick Dodge’s (the barefoot forest-living guy with the beard on the NatGeo show) claim that humans can thrive on 1000 calories a day. Is it true? Next, I discuss whether or not people need to worry about a distinct lack of appetite following exercise. Should they listen to their bodies or force down some food? And finally, how should a person who doesn’t want to lose weight go about a Primal way of eating?

Let’s go:

Dear Mark,

A few months ago, I saw a show on National Geographic about Mick Dodge, a guy who lives as a hunter gatherer in a rainforest in Washington state. He mentioned that the human body actually needs very little food, and he’s conditioned his body to live off 1000 calories a day. Is he right? Is this because of his primal [blueprint] diet? Or is he just crazy?

Thanks,

Isaac

There’s a difference between surviving and thriving.

I’m dubious about his claim. Is he weighing and measuring his grubs, cattails, and pine bark? Does he keep a FitDay account? Promo videos show him running barefoot through the forest, which looks like a great way to spend an afternoon but also increases his caloric expenditure and thus requirements. Plus, it’s a reality TV show. Those are notorious for stretching the truth and using selective editing to further a narrative.

Now, I’m not knocking Mick Dodge. I haven’t watched the show (just a few clips and I’ve read a couple things), but I dig his overall ethos and I suspect he’s just speaking about his own experience. I like his promotion of barefoot living – not just running. And what he says about the bare foot offering an entirely new sensory perspective on one’s surroundings is spot on. Even though we often focus on the utilitarian aspects of going barefoot – the altered loading of the lower limbs, the increased efficiency, the potential to reduce injury – the broadened sensory awareness is a huge benefit that doesn’t get enough credit. Plus, his apprentice that sometimes appears on the show – Will of Stone – came to PrimalCon Oxnard last year. Great guy, great kilt.

Let’s assume his claims are accurate, and he manages to maintain a decent physique, enough energy to run around the rainforests of the Pacific Northwest, and a modicum of sanity on a daily diet of 1000 calories. Good for him, but he’s an outlier. The vast majority of published research shows that people just don’t function very well on 1000 calories a day.

Heck, the most famous caloric restriction study of all, the Minnesota Starvation Experiment, used diets of 1560 calories a day to induce starvation symptoms in adult males who had previously been eating 3200 calories a day. And they weren’t running barefoot, foraging for food, climbing trees, or lifting logs and heavy rocks while on it. They merely maintained their regular walking habit of 22 miles a week. The symptoms were severe:

They became depressed, hysterical hypochondriacs. Most of them experienced bouts of severe emotional distress, and there was even an instance of self-mutilation (a guy cut off three fingers with an axe). Interest in sex vanished (and erections grew scarce), replaced by interest in food. Metabolic rate plummeted across the board, as did body temperature.

So yes, we can technically survive on 1000 calories a day, but it isn’t going to be pretty. And doing so while living off the land would be nearly impossible for most people.

Of course, the rules change when you have hundreds of thousands of calories attached to your body and available for utilization. The severely obese can get away with ultra-low calorie intakes because they’re consuming all the calories stored in their adipose tissue. This is why an obese 27 year-old Scotsman was able to fast for 382 consecutive days, consuming nothing but water, vitamin supplements, and his own body fat. He reached his goal weight and, as of the paper’s publishing date, was able to maintain it in good health on a normal diet.

Hi Mark,

Sorry to trouble you but I’m a bit confused. I’m trying to follow my body’s signals for hunger but I’m almost never really hungry after my workout for at least a couple of hours. I know you recommend occasional post-workout fasting. My goal being fat loss, is a protein-rich PW meal crucial? Should I eat something anyway?

Thanks for taking out the time to answer this.

Nish

As long as this “not being hungry” business only happens after you work out and you’re eating a sufficient amount of food overall, go with it. The body can probably be trusted if all your ducks are in a row and you have a healthy relationship with food. And if fat loss is your primary concern, you’re on the right track. Both intense exercise and fasting increase growth hormone, and growth hormone promotes fat burning. Just don’t take things to an extreme and suppress the urge to eat (eat when hunger ensues naturally – WHEN) and things will take care of themselves.

Protein eaten immediately post-workout can help muscle recovery and promote hypertrophy, but even the importance of the post-workout “anabolic window” is exaggerated. Unless you’re looking to wring every last drop of muscle-building potential out of your body, you’ll do just fine eating protein a couple hours after.

I’m a lot like you, actually. I generally don’t get very hungry after a workout. If I’m not hungry, I don’t eat, and it’s worked out well. Others may have the opposite response to training. Efficient fat-burners tend not to be ravenous after exercising because they’ve burned more fat and spared more glucose during the workout and don’t need the immediate glycogen replenishment from dietary carbohydrates.

People just respond differently to training. There’s no one “right” way.

Dear Mark,

I am a fifty year-old woman with a long standing history of gastric disturbances which have previously been put down to irritable bowel, and now peri-menopausal hormone fluctuations plus h-pylori – both of which are causing distressing acid reflux and nausea.

I am certain that the answer lies in my diet, which has always been carb heavy – particularly as I am a “pesca/vegetarian”.

My problem is that I am very small (5ft tall, and currently just 40kg) and I lose weight at the drop of a hat. I recently started a low FODMAP diet accompanied by some tips from your web site regarding grains, but I lost 4kg (from 44 to 40) in just over a week.

Can I follow a low carb paleo style diet without losing weight? I’m scared to keep going.

Thank you for any assistance or direction you may have.

Kind wishes,

Erica

Many people can maintain their weight while eating relatively low-carb. I can. It may just be that you can’t go low-carb and maintain your weight. That’s fine, and it doesn’t mean you can’t be Primal. Although I’m a proponent of only eating and burning as much glucose as you have to in a lifetime, I don’t think carbs are evil. I’m relatively agnostic on that front. I even support up to 150 grams of carbs from starches and fruits (not even counting non-starchy green vegetable carbs) on the Primal Blueprint carb curve for weight maintenance for most people (athletes will often go even higher). I just want people to know what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. My motto with carbs is basically “eat them as you need them.” For most people, that means tailoring their carbohydrate intake to their activity levels: when they train hard and long, they eat a few more carbs. For you, that may mean using your weight to determine the amount of carbs you need: when you start losing weight, you eat a few more carbs.

Besides, just because you’re on a low-FODMAP diet doesn’t mean you must eliminate carbs. Most tubers are low-FODMAP, except for something like sweet potato. Regular potatoes, bananas, white/wild rice, even some fruits are all acceptable. Review the list of foods to avoid on a low-FODMAP diet; anything else is fair game.

You’ll also have to eat enough food. I mean, that seems like it should go without saying, but you’d be surprised. Low-carb tends to reduce appetite because the foods are so nutrient dense, and because protein and fat are so filling. It’s easy to forget to eat when you’re not very hungry. Great for losing weight, not when you need to gain it. So:

  • Drizzle a little extra olive oil on your salad. No, a little more than that. There you go. Just like that.
  • Throw a little more potato on your plate and melt another pat of butter on it. Go on, do it. Don’t be shy.
  • Flip that roast chicken carcass over. You’re not done with it. See those little tender morsels of chicken flesh there nestled on either side of the spine? Those are the oysters (not oysters, although those are good, too). Dig your index finger in and pop ‘em out. See that crispy little triangle down near the bottom? That’s the Pope’s nose, the perfect union of cartilage, fat and meat; rip it off and eat it. And you were about to throw the carcass out.
  • Keep snacks on hand. Dark chocolate, nuts, jerky, bananas. If you slice and dry the bananas, you can combine all four to make the greatest trail mix in the history of human history.

That’s it for today, everyone. Be sure to leave a comment for me or, if you have some additional advice, for anyone who asked a question this week. I know they appreciate your insights. I sure do.

You want comments? We got comments:

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  1. I’m incredibly skeptical that Mick guy survives off 1000 calories a day. That’d be impossible to do unless he was completely sedentary, is 4ft 5in and weighs 110 pounds…..

    Yes, I calculated a hypothetical BMR based off his age….

    Jacob wrote on July 7th, 2014
  2. I had a great barefoot session the other day in a bit of forest bordering part the Lake Simcoe waterfront. I was running around on my feet dodging, avoiding, and leaping stuff, on hands on knees running like a quadruped, and went down some of a fairly steep hill crabwalking (though more like crabsprinting), and during the crabsprinting I was going between low branches and ended it with a leap at a tree that I essentially bounced off by just tapping it with my foot and then hand quickly after and changing direction almost 90 degrees, feeling light as a feather. I was very fired up and believe I was operating somewhere near an Erwin le Corre level for a brief time.

    Animanarchy wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • You have revealed your location. Lake Simcoe: between Lake Erie and Lake Superior, just north of Toronto.

      BillC wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • Time to start collecting new yeti poop samples.
        I’ve revealed my approximate location before and even for a while the specific town I’ve lived in for years on the forum
        (not specified presently). But I like to keep to keep a modicum of discretion.
        You never know who’s watching. 8 )

        Animanarchy wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • Though I gather you may travel 20, 30 miles in a day, multiple days in a row…

        BillC wrote on July 7th, 2014
  3. Come steal my appetite. Even though ketosis can kill my cravings nothing but outright illness kills my appetite. Once a pig always a pig.

    Groktimus Primal wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Maybe you should consider altering your inner monologue. You have a hearty and robust appetite! How about that?

      Megan wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • Are you a shrink?

        Lucylu wrote on July 8th, 2014
    • Ditto. I think the only thing that kills my appetite is nausea.

      Wildrose wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • For me it varies. Sometimes I’ll eat next to nothing for a couple days, sometimes I’ll eat practically the minimum I need to for a week or so, and sometimes I go on eating binges but they usually leave me feeling unpleasant for a while. Lately I’ve been going heavy with the somewhat processed meat and cheese and a bunch of kefir and beer and some pickles/pickled stuff. My cravings for all the little nice things like fat, protein, salt, glutamates and alcohol kinda group together and become a significant driving force influencing what I’ll do. In this case I have no choice but to take it fairly easy and relax while digesting because my stomach is too full for hard exercise.
        I do not like the balloon feeling and the tubby, rotund look I get from stuffing myself to bearable capacity. It’s days like this I don’t go sunning at the beach.

        Animanarchy wrote on July 7th, 2014
  4. Good point on raising the fat with low carb. A lot of people don’t realize you need to replace the carbs with something!

    Dr. Anthony Gustin wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • I lose too much weight if I go very low-carb, even though I incorporate plenty of good fats in my diet, including mostly fatty meat. (Actually, I’ve been known to eat butter all by itself. I love good butter.) I’m not exactly sedentary but I’m no athlete either. Metabolic differences between men and women, perhaps? Or maybe just individual differences?

      Shary wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • Do you do “refeed” days where you increase carbs? Are you strength training and not eating carbs after? Are you sleeping? There are a lot of different things that could be going on here. Also – what is “too much” weight loss?

        Dr. Anthony Gustin wrote on July 7th, 2014
        • No, I don’t do strength training, and I do sleep quite well most nights. My definition of too much weight loss is when the pounds keep dropping off even after I’ve reached what I consider a good weight. In my case that’s around 125-130 for my 5’8″ frame. After I added more potatoes and rice to my diet the weight loss stopped. I think my body just requires more in the way of healthy carbs and possibly more fats than I was giving it.

          Shary wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • Shary,

        Be careful. I hear the word weight a lot in your concerns and in the original post. If you feel good, vital, libido, etc. Do not sweat the weight. You sound very insulin sensitive too me. ( a good thing) Everyone is a bag of different hormone sensitivity and weight set points.

        As a man who is in good shape but definitely is fighting his genetics, I wish I had your problem. I have even seen some patients that are diabetic, but are skinny as all hell. (lets call them vegans) Weight definitely does not correlate well to specific issues. Don’t forget to trust your instincts on how you feel. If eating more healthy carbs makes you feel better, then do it. Remember, we on this journey are all life hackers. Even those who totally fear carbs still get some each day. I have yet to meet anyone in their 90s who didn’t eat every food group.

        Dr. Jason Bussanich, DC wrote on July 8th, 2014
        • Thanks for your comment, but I think you misinterpreted. I’m not at all warped on the subject of my weight or my diet, nor am I diabetic or even close to becoming diabetic. I was merely pointing out that switching to a Paleo way of eating can be hit and miss until we figure out what works best for us as individuals. I just happen to be one who needs more in the way of good carbs to keep my body in that “sweet spot” of feeling good, looking good, and being healthy.

          Shary wrote on July 9th, 2014
    • Good point. I was one of those people. Dropped the grains two years ago and did not increase the fat. I just didn’t know. I lost weight, and I couldn’t afford to as I was alread thin.

      Jacqs Flying Primal wrote on July 7th, 2014
      • I meant to say I did not know to increase the carbs too. Lots of sweet potatoes etc for me now, white potatoes (nightshade family) bother me.

        Jacqs Flying Primal wrote on July 8th, 2014
  5. I used to never get hungry after workouts. Now I do. I think possibly my hormones are normalizing. Or my body is just used to eating more food then I used to before.

    Meagan wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Workouts always suppress my hunger for awhile. My hormones are in good shape. I can sure pack in the food after a couple hour cool down though.

      Nocona wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Or it could be just your metabolism adapting.

      John Finn wrote on July 8th, 2014
  6. Homemade dried bananas are really good. Dip each slice in lemon juice before you put them in the dehydrator. Sprinkle cinnamon on some of them, too. Really chewy, kinda hard on the teeth, but so much better than banana chips.

    As for low-calorie eaters, my boyfriend eats surprisingly little. He’s quite frail. He is also a raving hypochondriac and a moody depressive. I think I’ve spotted a link. I wish there was something to sprinkle on his food to give him my appetite.

    Diane wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • He may actually have an eating disorder. Anorexia affects men as well. I really hope not, but either way, it’s good to know he has you to support him :)

      Jessica wrote on July 7th, 2014
  7. It would be nice if, at the beginning of every post with an acronym like FODMAP, you’d say what it is so newbies have some idea what’s being talked about. Thanks!

    Rowdy wrote on July 7th, 2014
  8. I also struggle with eating enough. I just don’t like to eat beyond full/satisfied. I am tall and muscled, but I am thin and small-boned (5’9″, 133 lbs.). I’ve been applying some of the above-listed tricks to keep my weight steady, and if I slack off on the extra coconut oil or pads of butter, I really notice. It’s probably a part of eating paleo that fewer people have to deal with, but I’m glad Mark addressed this a bit.

    Megan wrote on July 7th, 2014
  9. mmm… the Pope’s Nose! I also roast the turkey neck until crispy and always devour it without anyone else seeing… skin, meat & marrow! Me no share!

    Stephanie Turner wrote on July 7th, 2014
  10. To the individual who is not hungry right after a workout, I have the same experience.

    I usually finish up workouts around 6:30pm and don’t normally eat dinner until 9:30 or 10pm. The only thing I usually eat between 6:30 and 9:30 is an apple around 8:30.

    It’s funny as on Wednesdays (often its an off-day from lifting), I’ll get home and be eating dinner around 8.

    Glad to hear Mark doesn’t see a problem with this and I haven’t really experienced one.

    Keith wrote on July 7th, 2014
  11. I wish I could say eating too little was a problem for me. I am the complete opposite, no matter what my diet is :D

    Matt wrote on July 7th, 2014
  12. I too struggle keeping my weight up. Starting out at 113 pounds at 5′ 4″‘ and after going Primal two years ago, I’m down to 105 to 108 (a slow slide). I recognize that “not being so hungry” feeling due to all the nutrient dense food I eat now. I have to force myself to up the calories. I know I am on the right track as I used to think of food all the time, watch cooking shows etc. I was thin, but starving. Now I’m thin but satiated. Still want to put on a few pounds, but afraid to exercise too hard in case I lose more weight, however, it may be that very exercise that will build muscle and bring up my weight. Thank you Mark for the encouragement,

    Regarding the barefoot way of life….I started doing that this summer due to something I read here, confirming information I learned from a chiro’s site a couple of years ago when I had an injured foot. He walks barefoot all the time, even when attending his clients. Calls himself the Sock Doc I think. I love walking barefoot. At first I felt odd. I had cold feet and afraid of hurting myself on bumps and lumps on the ground. Now, don’t feel the cold, but feel so connected to something I can’t describe. I have even walked my dog barefoot a few times, an amazing and freeing feeling…ouch a few times stepping on rocks etc. When I want to climb into shoes or into bed I use the pumice stone and scrub the bottoms of my feet, that too is invigorating and leaves a wonderful feeling. When it was cooler this spring I was wearing wool socks only…that felt great too. Nothing beats complete barefoot though. Unfortunately, way up here in Canada, the winter winds blow and wool socks it will be again.

    Jacqs Flying Primal wrote on July 7th, 2014
  13. You mentioned the oysters and the pope’s nose on a chicken. My 2 favorite parts. I eat them first.

    Don in Arkansas wrote on July 7th, 2014
  14. After close to 2 years Primal, what consistently happens is the day after an arduous hike or an infrequent run my hunger spikes and I need at least 3 full meals that day. This has been going on for at least 6 months, maybe longer but it took me awhile to spot the pattern.

    It’s so predictable now that I know to have more food around on the ‘day after’ than normally I would. Most other days I eat only one or two meals a day ’cause IF has become normal. So I don’t sweat it if I’ve been busy and not yet done the grocery shopping. But oh man, I’d better not get caught short of food the day after a big hike or run!

    Lynn wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Ditto, i find this too. So over the course of a week or varying activity my daily intake varies widely.

      I suspect this is much how our forebears ate. I also notice variations over the course of a monthly cycle which demonstrates the effect fluctuating hormones can have.

      The ravenous days are the ones where it’s easiest to eat ‘off plan’ I find or rather it’s hardest not to dive into something you wouldn’t normally; so having that kitchen stocked in advance (suitable primal food packed it out and about) is definitely the way to go!

      Kelda wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Thank you for that information Lynn, this is helpful. I will start paying attention to that detail of more food after increased activity.

      Jacqs Flying Primal wrote on July 8th, 2014
      • You’re very welcome. I’d be curious to hear if you experience something similar.

        Kelda, great point. If I get caught short of food on the day after that’s when I’m most likely to want to hop into the car and go get something, anything STAT! :-D

        Lynn wrote on July 8th, 2014
        • I haven’t done any vigorous exercise for a while and so perhaps the “pattern” was harder for me to find. i would notice here and there that I felt awful, weak, and had to rest. I noticed over time that it came on after walking far or heavy work around house etc. Your post helped me to clarify the perhaps “why”.

          My weight decline actually began some 11 years ago due to facial neuralgia, a burning that is present all my waking hours, at that time I was a healthy 122 pounds at 5’4″. …I lost the weight due to the stress I am thinking, due to pain perhaps causing me to eat less etc. ( I take no medications for it anymore, they didn’t work and caused addiction. Getting off them was Not a piece of cake) Two and a half years ago I found myself around 113 pounds. So 9 pounds loss over 9 years. After dropping grains in the winter of 2012, hoping to find improved digestion and an answer to healing the neuralgia, I lost the weight more quickly, not realising I needed to up my healthy carbs and up my fat intake. Silly mistake, but one I imagine many people make as pointed out by Dr. Anthony Gustin’s post above.

          I have found, that when I concentrate on food intake and make an effort to eat more food, my weight stabilizes, but does not increase. I would probably have to eat a waaay lot more to get that increase and exercise more vigorously I’m thinking, also compensating for calorie loss due to exercise by eating even more. Imagine my face thinking about eating that much food! I feel full already. I take a full spectrum digestive pill now in order to cope with this increased amount. It is working. No more reflux either. That was a bonus. I used to keep a log of calories/protein/fat etc intake, but it became arduous. Further I would be discouraged when I saw how slowly the calories would mount each day, all the calculating and math etc was not helping me. I just need to eat more carbs, more fat, more protein and do it each meal and when ever I think of it. The fluctuating 105 to 108 pounds are scary numbers to me.

          So, now thanks to your post Lynn I will make an effort to eat even more after more vigorous activity. Perhaps I need to actually eat something on longer walks etc. Your post resonated with me when you mentioned it taking some time for you to “notice the pattern”. I woke up to that.

          Jacqs Flying Primal wrote on July 8th, 2014
  15. I was pretty thin before beginning paleo mainly due to a ton of running, GI issues related to the grain based diet I was eating, and not realizing it’s good to eat fat. I’ve gained 5 lbs in the past 8 months and feel so much healthier overall. It took a while however to figure out how what starchy veggies work best for me and how much fat I needed. I need more fat than I ever realized I could eat. People who are on the thin side and new to this should look at the fat and carbs they’re eating because going low on those will lead to weight loss and not feeling great.

    Michele wrote on July 7th, 2014
  16. I, too, have problems with keeping weight on with low carb. I lost 2 dress sizes after starting a primal/paleo diet for health purposes (after finding out I was a celiac) and had people telling me I was too thin. I felt great but, my face, especially, shows the weight loss. I quit exercising and added more fat…it didn’t help. In fact, I think I lost more weight after I quit exercising. I have been known to skin and eat an entire roasted chicken skin, not just the goodies. I asked a popular blogger–who says one must stay very low carb to maintain health-how to gain weight and he facetiously said to eat all the carbs and sugar that I wanted. He thought I was kidding or boasting and was obviously annoyed that I would ask that question. I wanted to gain weight in a manner that was a positive health gain. Well, as it turned out, that is exactly how I gained weight. Gluten-free donuts and cookies. And I do not like them. Not sure where to go now. I’m a 51 year old woman…

    TooThinToo wrote on July 7th, 2014
  17. Due to stomach issues, I do all my workouts in a fasted state. While I am hungry after a daily workout, I am never hungry after finishing a half-marathon. I am lucky to eat one meal- which is normally ice cream. Not the healthiest of choices, but it gets me some calories. By the next day my eating has returned to normal. So on race days I usually am really low in calories, but as I am not running them every weekend, I figure once every couple of months isn’t going to hurt me.

    Heather wrote on July 7th, 2014
  18. Your explanation of why people with more calories stored in their adipose tissue can survive on fewer calories pretty much explains the entire juice craze, so thanks for that, because I had been wondering! :-D

    amy wrote on July 7th, 2014
  19. I was hoping for better advice from Mark about avoiding weight loss. I have SIBO, so I have to avoid the very carbs he recommends because they aggravate gut symptoms. I can’t eat sweet potatoes, potatoes, rice, or bananas. Like Erica, I struggle to maintain my weight – I am 5′ 4″ between 100-105 pounds. Family and friends say I look too thin. I eat a lot (so long as I am not having a flare up). Baking and eating paleo treats (muffins, cookies, etc) has been the most helpful in avoiding weight loss (yes, I already eat lots of good fats). I’ve searched the web numerous times looking for advice on this matter (also, how to gain weight – I was ill this spring and lost 6 pounds in 10 days!). I’d really appreciate further suggestions than just “eat more carbs,” since I can’t!

    Elizabeth wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • I’m not carb sensitive, but I gradually eased back on carbs for a couple weeks before cutting grains out. During the easing back I lost four pounds–I know that doesn’t sound like much, but you and I are pretty much the same size! After that point I began keeping a food journal to see what my “maintenance” intake of calories needed to be. Since starting the record keeping, I have managed to halt the weight loss. Keeping the journal may help you ensure that you’re getting enough.

      If you’re not sensitive to dairy, I strongly recommend traditional Greek yogurt, both for the fat and for the probiotics which may help reduce your flares (I have a friend with SIBO and it’s helped her). Dairy, avocados, and nut butters have been my go-to foods to keep the calorie levels up. I hope this helps!

      ZenChickChristine wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • I’ve been Primal for about 2 years. Recently, I started dropping a lot of weight. I’m 4’11”, 87 lbs, and still losing. You might want to try shakes. I make mine with coconut milk, oil, spinach, fruit, avocado, and protein powder (not exactly Primal, I know). Use whatever foods, liquids, and fats you can tolerate. Make them as caloric as possible. Even if I’m not hungry, I can drink one of these and get some much needed calories. This seems to have at least slowed down the weight loss.

      jennie wrote on July 7th, 2014
    • Two words: Heavy Cream. It’s so calorically dense that you can gain weight drinking it even though it’s pure fat. It also doesn’t seam to trigger satiety like the fat on a steak does.

      Jake wrote on July 8th, 2014
  20. I used to be ‘eggetarian’ and an active cross fitter . I was hungry all the time . I have started to eat one of chicken and salmon at every meal with a healthy drizzle of coconut oil . I am still hungry more often than not . My weight is not an issue though . Guess each of us is made differently .

    Jo wrote on July 7th, 2014
  21. Thanks, ZenChickChristine!

    Yes to the yogurt – I make whole milk yogurt, and eat that almost every day (after my 6 pound drop, I used part cream). Other dairy is often hard for me – I had a flare up lately eating too much manchego (which is allegedly low lactose). Nut butters can be problematic for SIBO, too.

    Elizabeth wrote on July 7th, 2014
  22. In that last question about loosing weight – the suggestion about getting the last morsels off the chicken carcass before throwing it out is spot on – they are some of the best bits. BUT she should not be throwing that carcass out, she should be making bone broth with it!

    Salixisme wrote on July 9th, 2014

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